Police: 50 killed in Florida nightclub terror attack


You're correct. I never said his race had anything to do with it. I knew from the start he was gay. Hate filled and killing a gays at a club signaled that. When his father said he became enraged after seeing two men kiss I knew he was under cover. Still doesn't mean I want these folks from Syria and Iraq in my neighborhood. I don't want dope dealers, gangsters, meth heads or hookers in my neighborhood either.
For the most part, I don't see Muslims committing overwhelming criminal acts. They're for the most part, law abiding citizens.
 
I get where you're going...but unlike these types of people, those white dudes aren't telling people that they're doing it in the name of Jesus. That's these radical islamists main goal. Most of those white dudes are just messed up in the head but these dudes really believe this is what "allah" wants...which is why you see them screaming God is great when they do it. I mean they really believe that dying in these situations is going to get them into heaven with virgins at their disposal.

The reason you don't see it here as much is solely because of how far West we are of the middle east. But you best believe...if the middle east was where Mexico is....
When Christians bomb abortion clinics, you don't think they're doing it in the name of their god?
 



You can justify all you wanna. Yes Christians have killed. Yes they still kill. Yes these middle Eastern folks kill in massive numbers. Yes they will kill me, you and everyone in this topic not because we're black, but because you are born a American. This dude said he didn't have anything against black people according to one of the black dudes who survived . Yet he still kept killing blacks too. Reality is what it is. Just like I said before all the black people defending these folks won't live in the projects or hood where dope dealing and gangbanging exist, yet you wanna say you want these folks blowing up their own kids in your communities. Ha!
This has nothing to do with justification. When our military goes over and kills not hundreds, not thousands, but millions of people who've done nothing to us, what do you expect them to do?
For the most part, Muslims aren't robbing and killing folks in Black neighborhoods, nor White neighborhoods, but suddenly one incident is used to tarnish the entire group. That's illogical at best.
Be careful of taking one incident and rationalizing it into blaming an entire group.
If it was left up to me, I'd pull all of our troops out of the Middle East and let them solve their own problems.
 
Some of yall couldn't work where I work and keep your sanity. LOL

Tell me about it. Most of the intelligence gathered on terrorist is provided by Muslims. Which is why I think Donald Trump knows nothing. A white man or a black man cannot walk in to Syria and gather intelligence. He would be shot on the spot. We need Muslims in more ways than one.
 
You're buying into the media hype. Every white person is "messed up in the head" ,every black person is a thug, and the middle easterner is a terrorist. They're all doing the same thing, which is slaughter innocent people. Who cares what the motivation is, both do exactly the same amount of damage.

No, i'm responding as to why the islamic people are tied to religion and why the white people aren't. The rest of that is pretty irrelevant to what I said.
 
When Christians bomb abortion clinics, you don't think they're doing it in the name of their god?

I'm not even religious but anyone with sense knows the difference between these situations lol. With Islam you don't have to guess why they're doing it, hell they're going to tell you.
 
Oh I'm proud to say I profile. Just like when I see a grown black dude 25-50 years old riding a bicycle thru a neighborhood I know he is up to no good. Just like when I see a bunch of white folks in a wooded area if I'm out fishing in a beat up van I know they are making meth or smoking it. When I see women walking down certain streets with her butt cheeks hanging out or just walking the same strip at certain times I know she is a hooker. When I see young dudes with a hoodie over their head at midnight standing out on they block I know they selling dope.
That, to me, isn't profiling. That's called being aware and assessing the situation. Now saying you want ALLLLLL of them deported. It's not really profiling. Just racist. LOL.
 
I'm not even religious but anyone with sense knows the difference between these situations lol. With Islam you don't have to guess why they're doing it, hell they're going to tell you.
Some folks use religion for political purposes, especially White Republican conservatives.
Just because they "say" they're doing something in the name of Allah, that could simply be a false facade for political gain.
 
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The bottom line is I don't like or care much for white people of European decent, but I know I'm an American. America is not the greatest, but it is the best country on this planet to live. The bottom line is wars were fought before you and I were born and will be fought when you and I die. That's life. These folks are not your friend nor do they pretend to be. They will blow up the projects just like they will a all white neighborhood because you are an American. Justifying what these groups do is no different from justifying the Gangster disciples and Vice Lords doing all that killing in our community.
This has nothing to do with justification. When our military goes over and kills not hundreds, not thousands, but millions of people who've done nothing to us, what do you expect them to do?
For the most part, Muslims aren't robbing and killing folks in Black neighborhoods, nor White neighborhoods, but suddenly one incident is used to tarnish the entire group. That's illogical at best.
Be careful of taking one incident and rationalizing it into blaming an entire group.
If it was left up to me, I'd pull all of our troops out of the Middle East and let them solve their own problems.
 
This has nothing to do with white conservatives though. It has to do with middle Eastern folks killing whom ever they feel like. I have no sympathy for them ir the folks who follow them.

Some folks use religion for political purposes, especially White Republican conservatives.
Just because they "say" they're doing something in the name of Allah, that could simply be a false facade for political gain.
 
What indicators do we have to know that a people of Muslim descent practicing Islam would destroy the projects or attempt to negatively alter the lives of black people through an attack because black people are Americans?

If anything, we should be more wary -- and rightfully so -- of whites harming black people and black communities because we're Americans more so than Muslims.

We have historical evidence to back that up.

It wasn't the Muslims who attacked Black Wall Street in Tulsa in 1921. It wasn't the Muslims who have committed all sorts of atrocities against black people simply because they didn't want to share the same space as us.

Sure, anti-American sentiment does exist among Muslims, but we, as black people, shouldn't engage in such language that creates the same fear in them that created, and continues create, the same fear in us.
 
The bottom line is I don't like or care much for white people of European decent, but I know I'm an American. America is not the greatest, but it is the best country on this planet to live. The bottom line is wars were fought before you and I were born and will be fought when you and I die. That's life. These folks are not your friend nor do they pretend to be. They will blow up the projects just like they will a all white neighborhood because you are an American. Justifying what these groups do is no different from justifying the Gangster disciples and Vice Lords doing all that killing in our community.
Dude, you're a walking contradictory. One minute you're blaming the White man for his warmongering and racism. The next minute you're defending them. The question is why? You ever ask yourself that? You keep beating and bombing a people for years and years, THIS is what you get. It's called retaliation. That's not defending anyone, that's what humans do when they're attacked.
So far, a million Iraqis have died due to the Gulf War. That's not counting the deaths in other countries in that area. The fact of the matter is that none of this would be happening had we let those folks fight their own battles and stayed out of it. Now we have dead troops coming back home and these crazy "terror cells" threatening us cause we dipped in their mess.
 
This has nothing to do with white conservatives though. It has to do with middle Eastern folks killing whom ever they feel like. I have no sympathy for them ir the folks who follow them.
Politically it does have to do with White conservatives. They were the very ones who started the Gulf War. You do remember the Bush boys don't you and the weapons of mass destruction lies don't you? White conservatives planted the seeds for these terror cells, and now it's coming back to roost.
My, my, how soon we forget.
 
I have two of them :)

Because of the proliferation of the AR-15, they are now readily available in the general public and in the hands of teens, and mental unstable people. Keeping that much firepower out of teens, gang bangers, and the mental unstable should be a national goal. Outlawing the weapon would be a good start.
 



Dude, you're a walking contradictory. One minute you're blaming the White man for his warmongering and racism. The next minute you're defending them. The question is why? You ever ask yourself that? You keep beating and bombing a people for years and years, THIS is what you get. It's called retaliation. That's not defending anyone, that's what humans do when they're attacked.
So far, a million Iraqis have died due to the Gulf War. That's not counting the deaths in other countries in that area. The fact of the matter is that none of this would be happening had we let those folks fight their own battles and stayed out of it. Now we have dead troops coming back home and these crazy "terror cells" threatening us cause we dipped in their mess.

If the Middle East (North East Africa) had no oil in the ground, we would not be in their business. We get off the dino juice, we can go back to Muslims being guys in bowe ties who sell bean pies and newspapers in the middle of the street.
 
Dude don't get mad because I don't support your agenda. This dude who did this shooting told two black guys in the club doing the shooting he had nothing against black people. Yet he still killed black people in the club. If he didn't wanna kill black people he would have fold them to leave. For all you small town blacks who have only lived around nothing but black and white people it shows. In the hood of inner cities where these middle Eastern folks own stores they are always trying fuk black women while calling black men thugs and animals. Go live in a diversified area and it will give you a different opinion.

Dude, you're a walking contradictory. One minute you're blaming the White man for his warmongering and racism. The next minute you're defending them. The question is why? You ever ask yourself that? You keep beating and bombing a people for years and years, THIS is what you get. It's called retaliation. That's not defending anyone, that's what humans do when they're attacked.
So far, a million Iraqis have died due to the Gulf War. That's not counting the deaths in other countries in that area. The fact of the matter is that none of this would be happening had we let those folks fight their own battles and stayed out of it. Now we have dead troops coming back home and these crazy "terror cells" threatening us cause we dipped in their mess.
 
Take your butt to the middle East and they would kill you with in minutes. Bottom line.
Politically it does have to do with White conservatives. They were the very ones who started the Gulf War. You do remember the Bush boys don't you and the weapons of mass destruction lies don't you? White conservatives planted the seeds for these terror cells, and now it's coming back to roost.
My, my, how soon we forget.
 
Not sure what some of you are talking about in this thread, before you generalize people you should at least see them in their own element. When me and my family went to the middle east, the people were really cool, we walked the streets all times of the night without anyone tripping. Nobody followed us around in the stores and more people look like us than you would think and they are Arabs. I saw a brother at the hotel that looked like he belonged at my family reunion except he had on the middle eastern garb and all he was trying to do was check into the hotel with his 3 pretty wives not jack up anyone, even my wife made a comment about how the women were chillin over there, but she wasn't into it enough for me to get a sister wife while we were there, but I at least asked LOL
 
Dude don't get mad because I don't support your agenda. This dude who did this shooting told two black guys in the club doing the shooting he had nothing against black people. Yet he still killed black people in the club. If he didn't wanna kill black people he would have fold them to leave. For all you small town blacks who have only lived around nothing but black and white people it shows. In the hood of inner cities where these middle Eastern folks own stores they are always trying fuk black women while calling black men thugs and animals. Go live in a diversified area and it will give you a different opinion.
What agenda? No need for one. Just an opinion.
This is ONE "possible" Muslim, but there are MILLIONS in this country. You want to profile ALL of them because of one idiot? Where was this same outcry from you for White boys to be profiled when Columbine, San Bernidino, Boston and other mass shootings occurred?
You're beginning to sound like one of them conservatives.
As for Middle Easterners I've encountered, they've always been respectful to me as long as I was respectful to them. None of them ever tried to harm me in any way.
 
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Take your butt to the middle East and they would kill you with in minutes. Bottom line.
Why would I want to go there? I just said to leave them alone over there and let them solve their own problems. Why would I want to go over there after we've already set off a powderkeg by going over their in the first place with troops, bombs and weapons.
Heck, the U.S. funded ISIS in the war against Syria. We shouldn't have anything to do with them folks over there.
Remember, them folks didn't start turning their attention to us until after the Gulf War in the early 90's.
 
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Have you ever lived in areas of Michigan were they live? How about up town NYC? How about areas of Chicago? Minnesota? Go to their neighborhoods and they will get with you. Step outside of small town Sippi and see the views of these folks.

What agenda? No need for one. Just an opinion.
This is ONE "possible" Muslim, but there are MILLIONS in this country. You want to profile ALL of them because of one idiot? Where was this same outcry from you for White boys to be profiled when Columbine, San Bernidino, Boston and other mass shootings occurred?
You're beginning to sound like one of them conservatives.
As for Middle Easterners I've encountered, they've always been respectful to me as long as I was respectful to them. None of them ever tried to harm me in any way.
 
So since we are generalizing all Muslins, so can we now do the same about Christians? The Media is saying Muslins are killing atheist, but at this day a Muslim have not done anything to me yet. I can give you a LONG list of Christians. To me, the most equitable solution to end all of this madness is to outlaw all religions. PERIOD……
 
You keep harping on some stuff you nor I can change. It's called blood money. When you are born in a country found on blood money it is what it is. Like I said you live with them. I'm good and my feelings aren't hurt.

Why would I want to go there? I just said to leave them alone over there and let them solve their own problems. Why would I want to go over there after we've already set off a powderkeg by going over their in the first place with troops, bombs and weapons.
Heck, the U.S. funded ISIS in the war against Syria. We shouldn't have anything to do with them folks over there.
Remember, them folks didn't start turning their attention to us until after the Gulf War in the early 90's.
 
The problem is you and JayRob and the other folks are getting your nuts off on religion. Either you all are slow or can't read. I've stated a billion times this has Nothing to do with religion. It has to do with folks who kill their own babies for a agenda. Now y'all can grabs your nuts and whack off about your views with God . That is your problem not mines.

So since we are generalizing all Muslins, so can we now do the same about Christians? The Media is saying Muslins are killing atheist, but at this day a Muslim have not done anything to me yet. I can give you a LONG list of Christians. To me, the most equitable solution to end all of this madness is to outlaw all religions. PERIOD……
 
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