House of Payne


I don't know what white people you've been around. But the ones I've worked with are just as bad as us when it comes to that. This "white folks stick together when it counts" stuff is largely a myth.

Co-Sign that statement. Hell you see them tear down each other every day in the media and in the work place. I think they are just not as sensitive to it as we are and really don't give a fugg. I get so tired of folks saying the white folks are united. Them mofos aint united. The rich folks in this country are the ones that are united. United to keep folks with no money out of their clique. If you are poor and white, you get dissed by any and every white upper middle class and rich white person. You want to see some united folks......check out the different Asian communities in this country. Now they are united.
 
Ok, now...now that the 1st episode is over, what are your thoughts? For me, I really hope it gets better. Also, he betta be glad he got them to pay for all 100 episodes up front. If it were not for that, I would say that the show would not last. I really did not like episode one. I did not laugh at all and it seemed "empty" at times. My wife, who happens to be one of the biggest TP fans in the world, agreed with my viewpoint. My son though, he enjoyed it.

Which son? Brandon or Tony? Sorry I missed it. I totally forget about the time this evening.
 



This show wasn't bootlegged it aired about six months ago the show wasn't very good so they went back and revamped the show a bit. It was really bad then and from tonights show not much has changed. TBS did order 100 episodes TP said they already shot 40 shows. I hope it gets better.
 
I enjoyed the show and thought that it was pretty good (different strokes for different folks). :lol: :emlaugh:
 
Let me start by saying that I really like TP's movies. I even have one of them in my DVD collection and was really wanting to like this show, but I have to be honest.

BOTH EPISODES SUCKED!

The plot of the first episode had a lot of potential. Ole boy was getting punked by a girl at school for his lunch money. But the story took too long to develop. Here I am waiting to see how the show was going to end and it ends with them doing homework together?

Sorry...I will give it another try next week. My TV time is linited and precious. If it doesn't get better...it goes out of my viewing rotation.
 
I watched So You Think You Can Dance tonight instead...sounds like I didn't miss anything...I'll catch a rerun or something

alot of times though....not every actor is a TV star...stick to your niche and develop your product....
 
Allen Payne is the only one on the show that can act.

I think he's the only professional actor. Perry uses "unknown" people he works well with and those who he has worked with in the past from his stage plays.

The show does need work. We have to keep in mind that's he working with amateur actors; he's not working with a big staff of writers (only 2 from what I have seen) and shows are recorded here in Atlanta (at his OWN production company) and not some big fancy production company in L.A. or New York.
Perry chose to work with TBS, because the bigger networks wanted to control his show and his ideas.
 
:lmao: @ Madea and Sis. Odell this morning on Steve Harvey ... and that sweet arsed Eugene ... that was some funny isht, hea? :lmao:

I as rolling.

Sista Odelland Madea need to do something together.

:lol:
 
Let me start by saying that I really like TP's movies. I even have one of them in my DVD collection and was really wanting to like this show, but I have to be honest.

BOTH EPISODES SUCKED!

The plot of the first episode had a lot of potential. Ole boy was getting punked by a girl at school for his lunch money. But the story took too long to develop. Here I am waiting to see how the show was going to end and it ends with them doing homework together?

Sorry...I will give it another try next week. My TV time is linited and precious. If it doesn't get better...it goes out of my viewing rotation.


I'mma have to co-sign. :nod: I love Tyler Perry and yes, I SUPPORT HIM and all :lol: ........but I agree, the first episode took too long to develop; Madea and Brown (lawd, dat dayum outfit! :emlaugh: ) were the only ones to make me laugh; plus, if you never seen any of TP's plays, then you're not going to get some of the jokes (Brown's clothes, some of Madea's jokes).

I'll give it a chance doe, but just like the test episodes- if it's not better by the third or fourth episode, then I may just go on and flip to "Law and Order." :(
 
This show wasn't bootlegged it aired about six months ago the show wasn't very good so they went back and revamped the show a bit. It was really bad then and from tonights show not much has changed. TBS did order 100 episodes TP said they already shot 40 shows. I hope it gets better.

I agree.
The show is not good.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-perry24apr24,0,6459288.story?coll=la-home-business
Studios aren't only show in town for Tyler Perry
The writer-producer known for requiring creative control gets an unprecedented deal at cable's TBS.
By Lorenza Mu?oz, Times Staff Writer
April 24, 2007


Four years ago, Tyler Perry pitched an idea for a sitcom about a firefighter with two kids who moves in with his parents after his crack-addicted wife burns their house down.

The network executives loved it. Except they didn't want the hero to be a firefighter. And they didn't want veteran stage actors Cassi Davis and Lavan Davis to play the leads. And they didn't want the matriarch to make so many references to Jesus and the Bible. And they wanted to bring in their own writers to help Perry with the script.

Perry got the message: "They wanted a different show."

So he walked away, though not from "Tyler Perry's House of Payne." It will debut in June on cable's Turner Broadcasting System, which bought 100 episodes, sight unseen, for $200 million in an unprecedented deal sealed after test-episodes of the show ran in 10 U.S. markets.

"It's a new paradigm," said Perry's producer, Reuben Cannon. "Hollywood is not going to change. We realized we needed to change the way we do business with Hollywood."

The 37-year-old Perry, who recently built a 8,550-square-foot house in Beverly Hills but lives most of the time in a mansion in Atlanta, is a powerful man. Movies based on hugely successful stage plays he wrote and starred in ? "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" and "Madea's Family Reunion" ? were box-office hits. Last year he wrote a bestselling book, "Don't Make a Black Woman Take Off Her Earrings: Madea's Uninhibited Commentaries on Love and Life," and opened a massive production studio in Atlanta.

But in L.A., the major studios aren't tripping over themselves to work with him. His appeal is diminished by his insistence on total creative control and by the fact that his movies don't sell abroad, where the industry depends on a big chunk of revenue to be generated.

When it comes to traditional Hollywood, "I still don't know the code and how it works, when to be quiet and when to speak up," he said. "And that is OK."

"I want to be a part of a system where an artist can create the art he thinks his audience wants," he continued. "That is difficult because the studios have become huge corporations where scripts, ideas and casts go through so many hands it ends up not being your vision."

To make his movies, Perry signed up with maverick independent studio Lions Gate. And to make "House of Payne," he broke Hollywood's golden rule: Never spend your own money.

Instead of selling his sitcom idea to a network, Perry bankrolled 10 episodes, betting about $5 million that they would end up on TV.

Perry, his lawyer and agents strategized with Debmar Mercury, a company that distributes previously broadcast shows, like "The Dead Zone" and "South Park," to network affiliates and independent stations nationwide. Together they picked the 10 cities where the show would be tested, made sure to include a variety of affiliates and local stations and negotiated time slots.

In Baltimore, "House of Payne" was twice as popular as "Seinfeld" reruns. In New York, it replaced "The Bernie Mac Show" on station WWOR, the local UPN affiliate (now My Network TV), and pulled in twice as large an audience. In Houston its rating was 600 times that for the "Steve Harvey Show."

Ira Bernstein, co-president of Debmar Mercury, hadn't expected those kinds of results.

"I was very polite but would explain that it was highly unlikely" the show would get killer ratings out of the gate, Bernstein said. "Tyler proved he knew his audience better than anybody. After 25 years in the business you think you know what you're doing and guess what? You don't."

"House of Payne" chronicles the ups and downs of CJ Payne as he tries to raise his two children and live under one roof with his parents. The working-class, church-going African American family is a reflection of the audience that has supported Perry's plays and movies for years.

TBS bought exclusive rights to air the show for 15 months; after that reruns will be offered to other networks..

"It puts the financial risk on us but it has huge creative benefits for us," said Steve Koonin, president of Turner Entertainment Networks, which owns TBS. "These shows are a lighthouse. They are destinations for new viewers. Tyler Perry has a huge fan base and that fan base has not been coming to TBS."

Lions Gate, the largest independent studio, which is known for slasher franchises "Saw" and "Hostel," got in the Tyler Perry business two years ago when it released "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" and bought the distribution rights to seven Perry DVD titles.

The studio will release Perry's next four films, "Why Did I Get Married," "Meet the Browns," "Jazz Man's Blues" and another film starring Perry as the gun-toting grandma, Madea.

It has been a fruitful partnership. Lions Gate estimates that over a five-year period, Perry will deliver gross revenue of $500 million to $600 million. With each movie, the studio recoups its marketing costs and then shares in the profit with Perry.

Keeping Perry within the Lions Gate family was a major reason Lions Gate acquired Debmar Mercury last fall.

"I did not want to let any piece of the Tyler Perry business get away from me," Lions Gate Chief Executive Jon Feltheimer said. "The brand is more than just Madea ? It's a unique kind of storytelling that Tyler has made his signature."

On Valentine's Day, Lions Gate released "Daddy's Little Girls," the first Perry movie in which he doesn't star and that doesn't feature Madea. It grossed $31 million, half the take of "Madea's Family Reunion." But "Daddy's" budget was under $10 million, so it's already profitable. That's unusual; most movies start making money long after their theatrical releases, from DVD and pay-TV.

Perry's deal-making has been noticed by others eager to swing the pendulum of power away from the studios, among them writer/director/producer Judd Apatow, who was behind "The 40-Year-Old Virgin," and actor Sacha Baron Cohen, the creator and star of "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan." "I think others could follow Tyler and we hope that they do," said Jack Abernethy, CEO of Fox Television Stations. "But they really need that unique combination of creativity, skill, ambition ? and business tenacity that Tyler brings."

As for Perry, he's shot the first 10 episodes of another sitcom, "Meet the Browns," based on the stage play he wrote. Should you look
 



this show is not good at all. LOL


TV may not just be his thing. He's having great success in other things (his book, his plays and his movies). So, if this doesn't work out, he'll still be fine. At least he has an opportunity to do something he wants and not have to compromise his integrity to get it. He's still doing it his way.
 
Let me start by saying that I really like TP's movies. I even have one of them in my DVD collection and was really wanting to like this show, but I have to be honest.

BOTH EPISODES SUCKED!

The plot of the first episode had a lot of potential. Ole boy was getting punked by a girl at school for his lunch money. But the story took too long to develop. Here I am waiting to see how the show was going to end and it ends with them doing homework together?

Sorry...I will give it another try next week. My TV time is linited and precious. If it doesn't get better...it goes out of my viewing rotation.

:tup: :nod: I agree "SOG." Let me add that this show is soooo predictable. I can see the plot already! :shame: Ole boy's wife is cheating on him: that's why she was late coming back home, and why she forgot to get the cake for the birthday party, and that's why their house burned down! :smh:

Oh well...I'll give it a couple of more views and if this doesn't get better, it's on to another show!
 
All y'all that watched the show and say it's not good are the ultimate HATERS!!! How dare y'all have your own opinion about this show. It's Tyler Perry, so it has to be good. Y'all some slave mentality having crabs in a barrell. His spiritual disposition demands y'all give his show a favorable rating.

Besides, he got a guaranteed 99 more episodes to go. (Yeah right :rolleyes:) As Ryan pointed out, let them ratings be low. That contract is as guaranteed as an NFL contract.
 
Dallas Morning News Review

Mr. Perry appears in tonight's episode as Madea, the character he immortalized onstage and in film, and he brings some measure of comic urgency to the proceedings. Overall, though, House of Payne is too weakly scripted to provide Mr. Perry (or TBS) with a crossover audience.

Tyler Perry's House of Payne

Grade: D
 
:tup: :nod: I agree "SOG." Let me add that this show is soooo predictable. I can see the plot already! :shame: Ole boy's wife is cheating on him: that's why she was late coming back home, and why she forgot to get the cake for the birthday party, and that's why their house burned down! :smh:

Oh well...I'll give it a couple of more views and if this doesn't get better, it's on to another show!



I didn't like it either and i am an avid TP fan. The second episode plots falls in line with the same plot from the test shows. She is a crackhead and burned down the house for the insurance money, but she was smoking up the bill money. The are going to have to stay with the aunt and uncle. That's how it went. I hope he changed the plot.
 
i thought the episodes from last summer were better, i was looking for it to be the same or pick up from there. i'll give it some time though.
 
Co-Sign that statement. Hell you see them tear down each other every day in the media and in the work place. I think they are just not as sensitive to it as we are and really don't give a fugg. I get so tired of folks saying the white folks are united. Them mofos aint united. The rich folks in this country are the ones that are united. United to keep folks with no money out of their clique. If you are poor and white, you get dissed by any and every white upper middle class and rich white person. You want to see some united folks......check out the different Asian communities in this country. Now they are united.


I cosign 100 percent. There was this ex-Klansman who stated that he noticed the elites were using him to help keep Blacks down, while using the Blacks to keep poor whites down.
 
I think he's the only professional actor. Perry uses "unknown" people he works well with and those who he has worked with in the past from his stage plays.

The show does need work. We have to keep in mind that's he working with amateur actors; he's not working with a big staff of writers (only 2 from what I have seen) and shows are recorded here in Atlanta (at his OWN production company) and not some big fancy production company in L.A. or New York.
Perry chose to work with TBS, because the bigger networks wanted to control his show and his ideas.


Co-sign...I enjoyed the shows, both episodes. I did, however enjoy the 2nd one better, which is surprising cuz I love me some Madea. :lol:

I believe as time goes on, his writing & production will develop. This is his first TV project, so give it time. and yes, Allen Payne IS the only professional actor on the show. All those other folks have starred in his plays and/or movies. I didn't recognize the dark skinned dude that played his son.

If you have never seen his plays, you won't catch a lot of the jokes within the characters.

Brown looked a hot mess, as usual. :lmao:
 
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