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Originally posted by CEE DOG
I have talked to someone in HR . I recruit for the largest Defense Contractor in the world.:idea:
GREAT POST!!!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by Ice Man
What this poll doesn?t consider is that African Americans not only earn a higher education at an HBCU, but also gain a sense of identity and heritage, associate with others who are connected to the concerns of the Black community, and experience a nurturing atmosphere.
The educational, socioeconomic, and sometimes political advantages of attending an HBCU aren't the only benefits. There are also the intangible, but no less important national benefits such as having a full spectrum of Blacks participate in student government, the administration and a student's increased comfortability being educated by and with people who look like you and value your concerns.
Originally posted by mighty hornet
GREAT POST!!!!!!!!!!!
And having attended a pwc also, I can tell you that the benefits that Ice Man speaks about is NONEXISTENT at pwc.
Originally posted by mighty hornet
sophrandos,
If you have the largest archive of African American history at Tulane, then good for you.
But that doesn't mean that daily life for the African American student at Tulane is better than it would be at Southern.
I'm not knocking anybody for attending school anywhere.
But I do recognize the value and benefits of attending an HBCU.
And I take exception when a "poll" would rank so many of these colleges where blacks are probably less than 10% of the student population and say that these schools are better for African Americans than the vast majority of HBCUs.
Gimme a break!
Originally posted by mighty hornet
Gee, thanks for enlightening me that different people seek different things in their collegiate experience.
And of course, I don't know every African American student and I can't speak for all.
But at the same time, I'm not foolish enough to think that "many African American students would be better off by going to a Mount Holyoke College or a Vassar College than by attending an HBCU
I guess having a large endowmment means that the school must be good for "the African American student" to attend.
Are you suggesting that going to an HBCU means that you did not make "an educational decision"Originally posted by sophrandros
Going to a PWC does NOT mean that you don't "respect" HBCUs; rather, it means that you made an educational decision.
Originally posted by mighty hornet
Are you suggesting that going to an HBCU means that you did not make "an educational decision"
Originally posted by Ice Man
sophandros,
HBCUs not only take the brightest African American, they take those, who in high school barely made it and those without direction. The ones with the low SAT and ACT scores. HBCUs turn a lot of them in very productive people. When PWCs start doing this we can talk.
The vast majority of PWCs only give edcational opportunity to the top African American, those that need their help the least. Many who probably participated in the poll. These people would succeed anywhere.
Please tell me I'm misunderstanding you and you're not saying that PWCs are "taking the same types of kids"Originally posted by sophandros
Many PWCs take the same types of kids. Those schools are your land-grant state schools.
Originally posted by mighty hornet
Please tell me I'm misunderstanding you and you're not saying that PWCs are "taking the same types of kids"
:smh:
Originally posted by unknown1
Also how many SWAC institutions compared to MEAC institutions have open admissions?
Originally posted by mighty hornet
I hope you don't fool yourself into thinking that us dumb HBCU folks actually believe some of this stuff you're saying man.
Originally posted by sophandros
Heritage: The largest archive of African American history is at Tulane University. TU also has an excellent African Diaspora Studies program, and Yoruba is offered through the Antropology Dept.
Community: When we are put in a situation where, as in the real world, we are in the minority, we stuck together. Sure, some people had their own thing, but for the most part, we were in it together. We didn't have fights between each other like what I've witnessed in certain situations like the AUC...
Diversity of Black People: We had people from all over the country and the world coming together, just on a smaller scale than on an HBCU campus.
Bottom line: I'm not putting anyone down. I just take umbrage at the "uncle tom" comments directed toward Unknown1. I don't agree with the statements that attending a PWC is not beneficial to a Black person. As I said earlier, we are not a monolithic group, and what is good for one of us is not for another. However, some of you need to take off the school coloured glasses and look at the world objectively. Just as on the other thread, Jackson State is not on the same level as Harvard. Hell, Tulane is not on the same level as Harvard.
Originally posted by JROCK
Lastly, we have different lens at it relates to "tiers" of colleges and probably have a different perspective about standard testing.