Ferguson , Mo -

[s phi s]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

In the Texas case, the victim actually lunged through the door at the officer with the knife in his hand.

I didn't see that kid in STL lunge, or run up on those cops. He was walking with the knife at his side.

A mofo walking directly towards you, clutching a knife, while proclaiming shoot me...within 6 feet of the officer (it appears), and you want to wait for him to rush you? And again, you can Monday morning QB this thing all you want, but I guaran-gawt-dayum-tee you that if you were the officer and everything else were equal, you would have shot too....but you probably would have missed.

 

[s phi s]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

I'm done with this....Do what ya do homey...

 

[Kendrick]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

And for every ONE of those incidents, how many THOUSANDS of interactions take place on a DAILY basis that don't result in anything CLOSE. If I am acting like a true cop, you DEFINITELY are truly acting like the media, being sensational instead of rational.

When an encounter ends in a death, how is one is supposed to react? Just because you say something is sensational doesn't mean it's that.

It's just like I get asked why does crime coverage or murder get so much attention? 'Cause those events happen outside the state of normalcy.

It's like saying why doesn't anyone cover the thousands of planes that land safely instead of the few that crash?

You gotta know when a person is killed by the police or there is some form of misconduct, it's gonna get a lot of attention.

 

[Kendrick]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

A mofo walking directly towards you, clutching a knife, while proclaiming shoot me...within 6 feet of the officer (it appears), and you want to wait for him to rush you? And again, you can Monday morning QB this thing all you want, but I guaran-gawt-dayum-tee you that if you were the officer and everything else were equal, you would have shot too....but you probably would have missed.

Like I said, it doesn't seem you have to be armed or not to be shot by police in the STL area if the assailant is 6 feet away or 35 feet away.

 

[s phi s]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

When an encounter ends in a death, how is one is supposed to react? Just because you say something is sensational doesn't mean it's that.

It's just like I get asked why does crime coverage or murder get so much attention? 'Cause those events happen outside the state of normalcy.

It's like saying why doesn't anyone cover the thousands of planes that land safely instead of the few that crash?

You gotta know when a person is killed by the police or there is some form of misconduct, it's gonna get a lot of attention.

Against my better judgement, I will reply here again............

That is a HORRID example.... Yes it is outside of normalcy, but, using your own analogy, it appears now that every other plane that takes off crashes....My Facebook feed has been LITTERED with any and every video they can unearth to prove that THE POLICE ARE BAD...and some of the videos are HORRID examples of what they are trying to portray...

So again, your own analogy....yes, when the unthinkable happens, it WILL be covered....my question is relative to the number of interactions that take place, is this an epidemic (as you suggest)? Or is it a much smaller percentage of people engaging in behavior that doesn't fit the expectations of the profession....Again, think about your plane crash analogy...Be careful.

 

[s phi s]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Like I said, it doesn't seem you have to be armed or not to be shot by police in the STL area if the assailant is 6 feet away or 35 feet away.

Good night dude....Stick to journalism. At least you are kinda good at that.

 

[Kendrick]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

That is a HORRID example.... Yes it is outside of normalcy, but, using your own analogy, it appears now that every other .My Facebook feed has been LITTERED with any and every video they can unearth to prove that THE POLICE ARE BAD...and some of the videos are HORRID examples of what they are trying to portray...

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And if that's the case, you wouldn't see why people would be critical or distrustful of the police?

Look, I think the both sides (the public and the police) needs to talk about this in public hearings or forums to reach some kind of understanding. The police are looking at these events through their side, and the public through there's because all of this is left up to interpretation based on what side you're on.

 

[Kendrick]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Good night dude....Stick to journalism. At least you are kinda good at that.

Speaking out of emotion, I see.

 

[EB]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Did anyone see or hear from the mayor? Someone may have brought this up earlier, but I have not heard anything from him. Talk about being invisible.

 

[s phi s]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Did anyone see or hear from the mayor? Someone may have brought this up earlier, but I have not heard anything from him. Talk about being invisible.

If you are speaking about the mayor of Ferguson, I caught a snippet of an interview that he did. The question was asked if he thought that Ferguson had a racial divide or some type of race problem. He answered that the citizens of Ferguson did not believe there was a racial problem in their city...:goof: Dafugg kind of rock he been under?

 

[MetroPhillyTiger]

I believe the mayor of STL spoke about it. The alderman from STL running around Ferguson came and tried to calm the crowd that was simmering. Mentally ill folks really shouldn't be roaming around in streets. As you can see, they are a threat to themselves as well as others.

 

[southsuburbs]

I don't know if these have been posted yet...but

They've been standing there all day, all of a sudden the police officer tells them to move and pushes them back...for what?! But they are supposed to remain calm?
http://newsone.com/3046015/don-lemon-ferguson/

You're participating in a peaceful protest, unarmed, you get into a VERBAL exchange with a cop and the cop points his gun at you and tells you he will ****ing kill you...
He's suspended indefinitely...but we all know he'll be back on the force in a year.
http://newsone.com/3046733/cop-susp...rifle-threatening-to-kill-ferguson-protester/

:shame:

 

[southsuburbs]

No need to worry...they were escorted safely from the area by the police...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-Michael-Brown-severely-beaten-teenager.html

Unrest in Ferguson, Missouri was exacerbated on Wednesday night when Darren Wilson supporters showed up to a Michael Brown rally, sparking tensions.

The small group of pro-Wilson supporters arrived after dark in the rally area, with one woman in a rainbow-striped shirt holding up a sign criticizing the governor's reaction to the police-shooting death: 'Vigorous prosecution Jay Nixon? Justice is for everybody even P.O. Wilson'.

A video post to YouTube shows the woman and another man getting into a verbal argument with Brown protesters, before they were escorted from the scene by police. They are identified as Chuck and Dawn of St Louis, in the video's caption.

 

[jag4life]

So now he was "severely beaten"? LOL

 

[CEE DOG]

They should have put them hands on them. This is when the fighting takes place. Not against your own......

 

[SU Jag 79]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Bottom line is if you pull a weapon on a police officer, be ready to die. These folks are trying to go home to their families at night just like you. I don't feel sorry for people who flash weapons at officers or trying to hurt someone. Now a unarmed killing is totally different. Micheal Brown was wrong if he robbed that store, and if that cop killed him unarmed if Brown didn't attempt to charge him, the cop deserves to go to prison.

Abso -- bleeping -- lutely.

Most cops I have talked to mainly care about getting back home to their families just like I do. They would rather NOT have to deal with people flashing weapons at them, cursing them, or whatever, but they are paid to do so. I do not and will not ever agree with harming a unarmed person if they pose no threat to you, but COME at me or my family and that thought is GONE and I don't give a damn if CNN, Jesse Jackson, or anyone else is right there filming.

 

[s phi s]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Abso -- bleeping -- lutely.

Most cops I have talked to mainly care about getting back home to their families just like I do. They would rather NOT have to deal with people flashing weapons at them, cursing them, or whatever, but they are paid to do so. I do not and will not ever agree with harming a unarmed person if they pose no threat to you, but COME at me or my family and that thought is GONE and I don't give a damn if CNN, Jesse Jackson, or anyone else is right there filming.

In a nutshell, some people would prefer that officers not have a right to defend themselves. Never mind that every use of force they use is already placed under an intense legal microscope. It is simultaneously placed under sometimes overbearing public scrutiny as well. Basically, they want the police to wait until they kill somebody or the officer himself to react. My thing is, often times, these situations occur AFTER the police were called to deal with a situation that, by tacit admission, couldn't be handled by the people calling the police in the first place. My goal EVERY day is to return home to my wife and kids so that I can be there for my family and raise my daughter and son. PERIOD.

 

[MetroPhillyTiger]

Abso -- bleeping -- lutely.

Most cops I have talked to mainly care about getting back home to their families just like I do. They would rather NOT have to deal with people flashing weapons at them, cursing them, or whatever, but they are paid to do so. I do not and will not ever agree with harming a unarmed person if they pose no threat to you, but COME at me or my family and that thought is GONE and I don't give a damn if CNN, Jesse Jackson, or anyone else is right there filming.

So how do you know you'll never loose your cool and go off on somebody because they didn't fix sammich right or cut you off on the highway or something...they should hold you to the same standard right?

 

[KCPVPanther]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

12 million arrests and only 400 shootings with most justified.

There is no consistent epidemic of killing of black people by police. Does it happen from time to time. Yes. Is warranted all the time . No. It is not an epidemic folks. Only Al and all of the media our making money off of this. 2 months from now when our folks try to open business in predominately AA neigborhoods, no surety will give them any financing or insurance backing because of this incident.

KCPVPanther

 

[pvdogteam]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

I have run into a few bad cops, especially in St. Louis, but to the point of s phi s he is right about the amount of interactions between police and the public is high so sometimes it can go sideways. However every interaction that I have had with cops have gone bad. I got stopped just the other day in Grand Prairie in an obvious speed trap the kids had me distracted and I forget about the 30 mph speed trap by my house so he got me. When I told him my dang kids had me distracted, all he could do was laugh and said he understand and just gave me a warning. All cops don't shoot first and ask later, they are human and want to go home just like us.

 

[Kendrick]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Whose supplying the money and how much is being made?

 

[SU Jag 79]

So how do you know you'll never loose your cool and go off on somebody because they didn't fix sammich right or cut you off on the highway or something...they should hold you to the same standard right?

The examples you used make no sense. Unless something is mentally wrong, why the hell would I lose my cool (I'm assuming this means going off the deep end with weapons or something?) about a sandwich or about being cut off? I live in a city with some of the dumbest drivers, seemingly, in the world.

We were talking about life and death. Someone threatening you or your family. I wouldn't want police using unnecessary force in a situation that doesn't threaten their life or the lives of people they are paid to protect. I would expect to be held to that same standard in regards to my family or my life.

Unless I'm totally missing your point .....

 

[CEE DOG]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Everyone knows all cops aren't bad, but all black men are judged by a few thugs. They consider Obama a street thug. I mean let's be real about life folks. Mike Brown deserved to be in jail for stealing those cigars. If he didn't touch that cop he didn't deserve to die unarmed. Many cops fight criminals everyday, but only the black ones die. Get real!

 

[KCPVPanther]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Everyone knows all cops aren't bad, but all black men are judged by a few thugs. They consider Obama a street thug. I mean let's be real about life folks. Mike Brown deserved to be in jail for stealing those cigars. If he didn't touch that cop he didn't deserve to die unarmed. Many cops fight criminals everyday, but only the black ones die. Get real!

These few thugs are committing over half of the homicides in the nation. We each on this board have a better chance of dying from one of our brothers than from police officer.

KCPVPanther

 

[KCPVPanther]

Re: Vet Cop: 'If You Don't Want To Get Shot,'Shut Up Even If We're Violating Your rig

Whose supplying the money and how much is being made?

For Al, it is all the corporations that he will walk in and shake down for donations because if they don't he will bring down the fury of the lynch mob on you. For media, it is the ratings associated with sensationalizing a race issue rather than the issue of an unarmed civilian being shot. There is no money in trying to highlight why Pookie got shot by Django. But as soon as Larry shoots Pookie, we need to have a conversation.

KCPVPanther