Bleedbluefan
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Re: Ferguson Police Stats--Explain this away
No. Signs. Of. Struggle.
No. Signs. Of. Struggle.
The Mike Brown shooting
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buckwheat
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Oh ok, that is ok though. I thought he was going to a university or something. I look at as he was trying to do something with his life. He made a bad decison to steal. We as a people have to do better. We keep hearing that the kids that were killed were such good kids, but once they are killed all of the other things start coming out. We have to teach our kids to respect authority.
Oh ok, that is ok though. I thought he was going to a university or something. I look at as he was trying to do something with his life. He made a bad decison to steal. We as a people have to do better. We keep hearing that the kids that were killed were such good kids, but once they are killed all of the other things start coming out. We have to teach our kids to respect authority.
s phi s
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Exactly, and that can work to the advantage of BOTH sides...ALL these witnesses for Mike Brown's side keep referencing a struggle. The pathologist hired by the lawyers for Mike Brown's family just said there was no sign of struggle on Mike Brown. That could work to discredit all this eyewitness testimony who keep referencing Brown being pulled into the car by his throat.
It also could serve to help Brown's side by them saying if there was no struggle, what was the legal justification for shooting him. Like I said, the more bits and pieces we get, the more questions that arise
Exactly, and that can work to the advantage of BOTH sides...ALL these witnesses for Mike Brown's side keep referencing a struggle. The pathologist hired by the lawyers for Mike Brown's family just said there was no sign of struggle on Mike Brown. That could work to discredit all this eyewitness testimony who keep referencing Brown being pulled into the car by his throat.
It also could serve to help Brown's side by them saying if there was no struggle, what was the legal justification for shooting him. Like I said, the more bits and pieces we get, the more questions that arise
s phi s
The One Man Band
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Whose to say they are? Whose to say they aren't? That's the point. We are ALL speculating because we aren't a part of the investigation...I'm sure those questions already have SOME answers by those who are investigating this tragedy.
Whose to say they are? Whose to say they aren't? That's the point. We are ALL speculating because we aren't a part of the investigation...I'm sure those questions already have SOME answers by those who are investigating this tragedy.
Re: Ferguson Police Stats--Explain this away
Who are all these parents who are failing to tell their children not to respect authority?
I think it's high time for cops to be taught how to respect the public. Not a week goes by where I don't read about some cop assaulting a citizen.
Who are all these parents who are failing to tell their children not to respect authority?
I think it's high time for cops to be taught how to respect the public. Not a week goes by where I don't read about some cop assaulting a citizen.
CEE DOG
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We all know finger prints are the first thing taken on a crime scene. Just like the police didn't have the cameras on, they won't have finger prints. This is called hiding the truth.
We all know finger prints are the first thing taken on a crime scene. Just like the police didn't have the cameras on, they won't have finger prints. This is called hiding the truth.
MetroPhillyTiger
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IMO, you're confusing two separate issues. You're talking about behavior of the general public when encountering the authority versus behavior of authority figures. There is no formal training for how to conduct yourself when being confronted by cops. However, there was (I hope) formal training for the officer on how to handle situations involving suspects or people jaywalking. At issue is his decision to use deadly force. Based on what eyewitness have said, the kid was trying to escape. So what you will have now is people who like to believe that all black males are thugs painting MB as a thug who was attacking the cop...but no eyewitnesses support that account. So these folks will start going after the eye witnesses...especially the black ones.
Bleedbluefan
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The family did a private autopsy because "they" are waiting on a toxicology report to smear Mike Brown's character. No other reason for Ferguson to not release it by now, they don't have a leg to stand on. Police officer took Brown out execution style.
s phi s
The One Man Band
Re: Ferguson Police Stats--Explain this away
You are missing my point. Just because they haven't been released, does that mean they don't have them? They haven't released the contents of the 2 interviews (at least) with the officer. Does that mean they do't have them?
You are missing my point. Just because they haven't been released, does that mean they don't have them? They haven't released the contents of the 2 interviews (at least) with the officer. Does that mean they do't have them?
LaCumba
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This is the bottom line and the entire case. Unless he can justify that each shot fired was the result of him thinking he was in immediately danger, he will be charged with murder and (IMO) convicted of murder.
This is the bottom line and the entire case. Unless he can justify that each shot fired was the result of him thinking he was in immediately danger, he will be charged with murder and (IMO) convicted of murder.
Bleedbluefan
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But....they haven't even charged him 8 days after murder
But....they haven't even charged him 8 days after murder
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This guy assaulted two STL cops and lived to tell about it.
Police said they conducted a search for more than one hour Monday, an effort to find Kevin Miner, 25. Miner was wanted for burglary. Officers said he tried hide one resident’s home.
“I saw the basement door was open, the cellar door was open, and I said ‘did you look down there?,†said resident Christina Freed.
Officers went down the cellar steps of Freed’s home and tried to open the basement door, but Miner allegedly slammed it back shut, breaking an officer’s hand in the process.
http://www.kmov.com/news/crime/Poli...ans-basement-assaults-officers-271009211.html
This guy assaulted two STL cops and lived to tell about it.
Police said they conducted a search for more than one hour Monday, an effort to find Kevin Miner, 25. Miner was wanted for burglary. Officers said he tried hide one resident’s home.
“I saw the basement door was open, the cellar door was open, and I said ‘did you look down there?,†said resident Christina Freed.
Officers went down the cellar steps of Freed’s home and tried to open the basement door, but Miner allegedly slammed it back shut, breaking an officer’s hand in the process.
http://www.kmov.com/news/crime/Poli...ans-basement-assaults-officers-271009211.html
LaCumba
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Noted, but when they do, He STILL has to justify each shot fired. Delaying the charges will not change this fact.
Noted, but when they do, He STILL has to justify each shot fired. Delaying the charges will not change this fact.
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Yes, that is what I was saying about teachers.
Investigate the numbers. Too many of our black men (could have been teachers) are in jail. Many wrongly, for jaywalking that became resisting arrest, that became assault on an officer, that became fleeing etc.
Yes, that is what I was saying about teachers.
Investigate the numbers. Too many of our black men (could have been teachers) are in jail. Many wrongly, for jaywalking that became resisting arrest, that became assault on an officer, that became fleeing etc.
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What I think many do not know, ans what may be the down fall of the PD, is that they are too. accustomed to doing what they want with little or know excuse.
They have run over blacks so long that they do not understand why they are being questioned about releasing the video. "What? That didn't satisify them?" Look at the statistics provided. They have always done whatever we want. They do ot know how to respond to be questioned.
What I think many do not know, ans what may be the down fall of the PD, is that they are too. accustomed to doing what they want with little or know excuse.
They have run over blacks so long that they do not understand why they are being questioned about releasing the video. "What? That didn't satisify them?" Look at the statistics provided. They have always done whatever we want. They do ot know how to respond to be questioned.
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That is what I was talking about in my last post. They are so stupid that they do not realize no one gives a damn.
That is what I was talking about in my last post. They are so stupid that they do not realize no one gives a damn.
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DId you mean nikkers or ******s?
DId you mean nikkers or ******s?
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How about that the N word can not be typed on TSPN. I guess I will have to say nikkers when I want to say ******s.
How about that the N word can not be typed on TSPN. I guess I will have to say nikkers when I want to say ******s.
buckwheat
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True that is the number one reason. We can try to sugarcoat it all we want but as men we want to make more money. I think we are needed as teachers, but the money is not there.
True that is the number one reason. We can try to sugarcoat it all we want but as men we want to make more money. I think we are needed as teachers, but the money is not there.
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Yep and when they do find a way to get paid a lot (usually as coaches) the salaries are criticized.
Yep and when they do find a way to get paid a lot (usually as coaches) the salaries are criticized.
The Founder
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Honestly we don't know shit because:
1. Some folks say there was a struggle but the pathologist says there was none.
2. Some folks say it was not a struggle and the pathologist said it was none.
3. Some folks just out claiming to be marching but just out to act a damn a fool.
4. Some folks out marching but they act like they got some sense and still get bombarded with tear gas because the folks in #3 can't get right.
5. The store manager said he did not think the guy who came in to the store was the kid. He could be lying because he does not want his store fugged with by those folks in #3.
6. The black Captain seemed to have it together until folks in #3 got hooked up the struggle.
7. The governor said fugg it....we can get the National Guard to do the shit right since #3 it out there.
8. In time everything will come to light and we will know the truth.
9. What's up with the Ebola patients at the CDC?
Honestly we don't know shit because:
1. Some folks say there was a struggle but the pathologist says there was none.
2. Some folks say it was not a struggle and the pathologist said it was none.
3. Some folks just out claiming to be marching but just out to act a damn a fool.
4. Some folks out marching but they act like they got some sense and still get bombarded with tear gas because the folks in #3 can't get right.
5. The store manager said he did not think the guy who came in to the store was the kid. He could be lying because he does not want his store fugged with by those folks in #3.
6. The black Captain seemed to have it together until folks in #3 got hooked up the struggle.
7. The governor said fugg it....we can get the National Guard to do the shit right since #3 it out there.
8. In time everything will come to light and we will know the truth.
9. What's up with the Ebola patients at the CDC?
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That too and the stygma that teaching is for women. There are a lot of reasons. I still think the number one reason is that so many of us are imprisoned.
I did not know that coaches were demeaned about their pay. Coaching has traditionally been a avenue to administration. In some districts it is an unwritten prerequisite.
That too and the stygma that teaching is for women. There are a lot of reasons. I still think the number one reason is that so many of us are imprisoned.
I did not know that coaches were demeaned about their pay. Coaching has traditionally been a avenue to administration. In some districts it is an unwritten prerequisite.
In_The_662
Deeeeep In The Delta.....
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That's definitely true. A lot of guys don't want to be in a class room for at least 5-10 years before they can move on to an administrative job (or up to prinicipal/asst. principal) where the money is at (of course I went to Valley so I know a lot of teachers).
Nursing is another field where there is a shortage of black males (heck males in general. I think only like 12-13% of all nurses are male)
That's definitely true. A lot of guys don't want to be in a class room for at least 5-10 years before they can move on to an administrative job (or up to prinicipal/asst. principal) where the money is at (of course I went to Valley so I know a lot of teachers).
Nursing is another field where there is a shortage of black males (heck males in general. I think only like 12-13% of all nurses are male)
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