Diwali Message from President Obama
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JayRob
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There is none so blind than he who refuses to see, even when the evidence is staring right back at him in black and white. This is so sad and highly dishonest.
ROYAL BLUE
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What kind of spirit instructed Obama to cancel the Christian national day of prayer? What kind of spirit instructed Obama not to participate during the Christian national day of prayer? What kind of spirit instructed Obama to participate in Hindu and Islam ceremonies?
If you can tell me what kind of spirit is leading me, please tell me what kind of spirit caused Obama to honor false religions. Thanks in advance!
ROYAL BLUE
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Let me say this again whereby you can understand in a more simplistic way. Christianity is the "only" way any human being will ever be accepted by God......period. God will not accept another religion yoked with Christianity. Either people will accept Christ as the only pure way to be with God, or they will be as the fool on the left of Christ, and accept Satan's way............that simple.
JayRob
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If it helps you sleep at night, keep on ignoring the obvious fact that Christianity is derived from Hinduism. Instead of Hinduism being yoked with Christianity, it's Christianity that's yoked with Hinduism.
How can both religions be so similar, but one existing hundreds of years before the other? The only possible answer is that the latter religion copied the former. It gets no simpler or elementary than that.
I know it hurts, but you have to hurt before you heal.
JayRob
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Just because you label something as being of a certain spirit, it holds no water seeing that you've never seen this spirit or met it. You're merely labelling and speculating with nothing to support it.
ROYAL BLUE
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JayRob, I can assure you that being a Christian doesn't hurt me one bit.......I'm proud.
Hindu and Christianity will forever be separated because neither of them are the same. That BS Obama invited to the white house has nothing to do with Christianity.......at all. I don't know what that false priest was saying when Obama was participating in idolatry, by lighting candles to celebrate gods of the Hindu religion. That clown was saying some stuff I aint neva heard. Who are these Hindu gods that Obama worships? I have never read about them in the Christian bible. Can you please show me where they're located in the Christian bible? Thanks in advance!
ROYAL BLUE
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Have you ever read Romans chapter 8?
Romans 8:1-11
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,[a] who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
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JayRob
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So, you're quoting from a book that's just been proven to be a copy of a previous religion and you're trying to sell that? LOL!!
JayRob
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Being a Christian doesn't have to hurt you at all, but knowing that Christianity was copied, as has been clearly shown, has to sting a bit no matter what you say.
Can you refute what I posted on the subject with your own factual evidence other than quoting empty verses? Please do so.
Dr H..
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RB
Are you saying Obama is not a Christian, if this is true, why are you so up set? If should not matter if he bring in a Dog and Poney Show or a Cat dressed in a Santa Clause Sute to the White House, it's just a building.
Question: is it ok for Obama to have a Santa Clause at the White House.
ROYAL BLUE
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.......and it's selling cat daddy!:happydance:
THE BIBLE PAGE
THE BIBLE
It tops the best seller lists every year.
Nothing beats it.
World sales of the Bible are more than 100 million every year.
According to the British TIMES newspaper in 1996:
"Forget modern British novelists and TV tie-ins, the Bible is the best-selling book every year. If sales of the Bible were included in best-seller lists, it would be a rare week when anything else would achieve a look in. It is wonderful, weird ... that in this godless age... this one book should go on selling, every month."
http://www.soon.org.uk/page19.htm
ROYAL BLUE
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.......Obama cancelling the Christian National Day of prayer and not participating in any of the events. Obama inviting and participating in Hindu and Muslim prayer says that he's not a Christian. I have my spiritual eyes wide open, and I refuse to allow someone to tell me this dude is a Christian, when his actions are totally opposite of Christianity.....aint no way.
DH, seriously, what do you think about Obama choosing not to participate in the Christian National Day of prayer, but he invites other false religions and gladly participate and celebrate their day? Are those the actions of Christian?
ROYAL BLUE
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Again, I haven't read in the Christian bible that Christianity was copied from that false pagan religion. If it aint in the Christian bible, then you should know it's impossible to convince me.
Dr H..
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What’s that? Having a “National†day of prayer does not substantiate a person’s position in Christ, well perhaps yours. Does a person have to wear a cross to say I am a Christian? Does the President have the right to cancel the “Christian National Day of Prayerâ€
You are not controlled by the Holy Spirit, because of the scriptures you post. The Holy Spirit, would direct you to the correct scriptures, whenever you are presenting or proving your case.
You are hung up on something that has no merit.
If I had time I would exegete Romans 8:1-11
What about Santa Clause at the White House
ROYAL BLUE
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DH, just answer the questions below.....
DH, seriously, what do you think about Obama choosing not to participate in the Christian National Day of prayer, but he invites other false religions and gladly participate and celebrate their day?
Are those the actions of Christian?
I never knew Christians prayed to Santa. Do you know of any that pray to Santa?
Actions speak louder than words.
JayRob
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Bacteria and viruses aren't mentioned in the bible either, but you accept that they exist. LOL!!
Keep running from the obvious if that helps you sleep. The existence of bacteria and viruses is more proof that the bible was written by primitive men who didn't know much at all.
As far as bible sales, the world's getting worse and worse, especially in the nations who sell the most bibles, so obviously it's not doing much good.
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ROYAL BLUE
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DH, we know his participation doesn't validate his religious belief.........but what about him canceling the "Christian National Day of Prayer", but he gladly invites and participates in celebrating false religions? Is this the action of a Christian?
No, wearing a cross doesn't solidify your faith in Christ.
Is Obama a Christian? No, his actions indicate he's a lover of the world instead of Christ.
Is it ok for Obama to have a Santa Clause at the White House? Yes, St Nick was a Christian..........The true story of Santa Claus begins with Nicholas, who was born during the third century in the village of Patara. At the time the area was Greek and is now on the southern coast of Turkey. His wealthy parents, who raised him to be a devout Christian, died in an epidemic while Nicholas was still young. Obeying Jesus' words to "sell what you own and give the money to the poor," Nicholas used his whole inheritance to assist the needy, the sick, and the suffering. He dedicated his life to serving God and was made Bishop of Myra while still a young man. Bishop Nicholas became known throughout the land for his generosity to the those in need, his love for children, and his concern for sailors and ships. http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=38
ROYAL BLUE
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Yes they are, you just don't have eyes to see truth. Why do you think God put in the health laws that people should cook their food, and burn the food that is unfit to eat? Why do you think God stated people should stay away from those who have leprosy?
The bible teaches there is nothing new under the sun, and bacteria/viruses have been around since the creation of man.
Having said that, you're just upset the Christian bible is the #1 selling book in the world. I wonder why?
Dr H..
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Read it again and read the Egyptian Book of the Dead and other books about Eastern Religion. Remember, Moses spent years in Egypt and did Israel and before Israel was a "Nation of People" they lived in the desert assoicating with other religious groups.
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You are sick, let me see it was last year or the year before that you were "Anti Santa" talking about some dude dressed in red and putting ashes in children eyes and so on "What Changed Your Mind"
If you do your research you will find "Santa Clause" used different names, depending on the country and this "Folklour" goes back to paganism "Non Christians"
This dude has nothing to do with the birth of Christ, it's just a money grabbing scheme by corporations.
True, why are you worried about Obama? Besides if you are the "Christian" you say that you are [and you are not]. You would follow the instructions of Paul "Pray without Ceasing - 1 Thess.5:17"
Those instruction speak of a prayful life [read your bible]. If you would focusing on your "Prayful Life" you would not be concerned about a "National Day of Prayer" Why, because of your lifestyle. You said that you were a "Christian" if that's true "what did Christ say about the Sabbath" What did Paul write about the feast days. What did Christ say about Cesar?
Do you really think the Godhead is concerned about a National Day of Prayer? If soy, you really dont know anything about God or His teachings.
With your answer, why are you concerned about on day that does not validate an individual position in Christ.
National Prayer Day, was created as a floating holiday in 1952 and fixed on the first Thursday in May, by President Regan. There were National Prayer Days, before Obama [or did you know that] it started back in 1775.
JayRob
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RB, why you sit here and just flat out lie. The bible only mentions those things because the authors saw that some people with health problems caused others to get it.
THAT information was also being practiced in Egypt and civilizations long before the bible came into existence and long before there was any Moses.
For example:
Minerals [31] and animal products were used too. Honey and grease formed part of many wound treatments, [20] mother's milk [59] was occasionally given against viral diseases like the common cold, fresh meat laid on open wounds and sprains, and animal dung was thought to be effective at times [20].
A cosmetics jar at the Cairo Museum bears the legend: "Eye lotion to be dispersed, good for eyesight." An Egyptian papyrus from 1500 BCE discusses recipes for treating conjunctivitis and cornea, iris, and eyelid problems. Lead-based chemicals like carbonates and acetates were popular for their therapeutic properties [12].
Malachite used as an eye-liner also had therapeutic value. In a country where eye infections were endemic, the effects of its germicidal qualities were appreciated even if the reasons for its effectiveness were not understood [33].
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/timelines/topics/medicine.htm
The fact is they didn't know what bacteria was, they couldn't even acknowledge their existence, the bible often claims sicknesses were caused by evil spirits.
If they knew bacteria existed they wouldn't have said something so laughable.
JayRob
TigaPaw
In addition to the above, here's more archaeological evidence that clearly debunks the "Exodus" story, thus debunking the books written by Moses.....
It is quite clear from the archaeological record, as well, that there never was a "wandering in the desert for 40 years," either. Extensive archaeological surveys of the Sinai desert have never shown any encampments dating from the time of the Exodus, either before, during or after the time of the Ramsean pharoahs. At least two sites mentioned in the exodus story have been positively identified and carefully and extensively excavated, but no evidence of late bronze-age occupation or encampment has been found at either site. Additionally, the Sinai Desert was literally dotted with Egyptian military outposts, and nowhere in the Sinai could the Hebrews have been more than a day's travel from one of them. It is inconceivable that they could have remained undetected in the Sinai for forty years. The story of the Exodus is clearly mythmaking designed to portray a possible forced expulsion of oppressors as an escape of victims.
http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm
It is quite clear from the archaeological record, as well, that there never was a "wandering in the desert for 40 years," either. Extensive archaeological surveys of the Sinai desert have never shown any encampments dating from the time of the Exodus, either before, during or after the time of the Ramsean pharoahs. At least two sites mentioned in the exodus story have been positively identified and carefully and extensively excavated, but no evidence of late bronze-age occupation or encampment has been found at either site. Additionally, the Sinai Desert was literally dotted with Egyptian military outposts, and nowhere in the Sinai could the Hebrews have been more than a day's travel from one of them. It is inconceivable that they could have remained undetected in the Sinai for forty years. The story of the Exodus is clearly mythmaking designed to portray a possible forced expulsion of oppressors as an escape of victims.
http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm
Dr H..
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RB
Stop your foolishness, you know the God was working with other Nation's long before Israel existed.
Use a little common sense, research and study. Israel was not the first Nation to know about bacteria and other health related issues. Civilizations was cooking meat and boiling water hundreds if not a thousand years before Israel. Long before Israel, Egypt was building and practicing embalming {in which you have to be familiar with bacteriology]. They may not known how "something works" but they knew it worked.
The concept of "giving 10%" of your earnings existed before the Law. God just did not work in the lives of people when Israel became a Nation of People. He worked in the lives of Nations thousands of years before Israel or the Jews.
Just use a little common sense, that's all
Stop your foolishness, you know the God was working with other Nation's long before Israel existed.
Use a little common sense, research and study. Israel was not the first Nation to know about bacteria and other health related issues. Civilizations was cooking meat and boiling water hundreds if not a thousand years before Israel. Long before Israel, Egypt was building and practicing embalming {in which you have to be familiar with bacteriology]. They may not known how "something works" but they knew it worked.
The concept of "giving 10%" of your earnings existed before the Law. God just did not work in the lives of people when Israel became a Nation of People. He worked in the lives of Nations thousands of years before Israel or the Jews.
Just use a little common sense, that's all
JayRob
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Uhh, Dr. H, what nations did the Old Testament god work with before the Hebrews came on the scene?:noidea:
He never tried to convert those at Babel and he never tried to convert the Egyptians either (according to the OT). Those are just stories written by Moses, who supposedly wrote the first five books 2,000 years after Adam.
The Egyptians may have known about bacteria due to their documented history of medicine, but I highly doubt it due to the fact that they didn't have microscopes to see them. They may have known that certain chemicals and minerals preserved flesh or food longer, but I highly doubt they knew how bacteria and viruses worked.
One need only read up on their religious beliefs to see this. They believed that spirits/demons caused diseases. The bible teaches this as well.
Nevertheless, the authors of the bible never mentioned bacteria/viruses one time and showed no evidence whatsoever that they even had a clue that they existed. They merely knew that certain diseases could be spread, but they didn't know the causes. Remember, they thought spirits and demons caused diseases.
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