Who will be JSU Next Director of Bands?
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JAGCAT
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Oh okay. That's your qualifications for Big Band Sound. Like I said....my people.
jaydog, why don't you give us your qualifications (definition) of Big Band Sound?
The Big Band Sound most of us from JSU are talking about is the type of arranging that originated with Prof. Davis who was actually in Cab Calloway's actual Big Band. His style of arranging which he passed down to people like Harold Haughton was based on the actual Big Band arranging. It was more jazzy, swing style of arranging that JSU had mainly in the 60s, 70s, and somewhat in the early to mid 80s. If you want to know some examples of songs that are still played in Davis / Haughton's Big Band style think of JSU's current arrangements of Glad and Spirit, which were written way back in th e60s. Also a song like Black & Blues and JSU's Take Me Out To The Ballgame (which I don't think has been played in over 10 years). They even had a few more recent arrangements (Me & Mrs Jones & Turn Out the Lights are closest.)
The Big Band sound was a result of the style or type of arrangement. That wasn't it. That was just a nice, typical R&B song. Their was no Big Band flare or style to it. I'm from JSU, I'm not trying to rag on dude, I'm just saying.:lol:
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
Watcha think about that Big Band swing on " Big Balln' "??...
You being messy.:lol:
Blu Bengal
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So you're saying Dowell Taylor's arrangements were not of the "Big Band Sound"?
Nope. Didn't say that. Just talking about that one that was picked. They just picked a bad example.
I did mention Black and Blues which I believe was written during the Taylor era. But most popular music itself changed heavily in the mid 80s. The birth of rap music, more pop sounding R&B, etc. It just didn't have as much jazz influence as music from the 70s and 80s. Part of it is just the style of music. I don't know how much swing you can put into "Do the Booty Do":lol:
Blu Bengal
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I know this is going to sound stupid, but I thought the "Big Band Sound" meant all instruments played at the same time. :lol:
FrostyNacho
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lol!
mustardmanSU_04
Arranger/Composer
I can imagine him "going down the line" and snatchin lil' Walters trumpet.... "THIS:lecture: is how you play a trumpet"
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
I remember him doing that to a crab in 97 or 98.... After Doc finished blessing dude horn... he had the nerve to say...."Now doesn't that sound much better"... Dude horn had to have the taste of moores for a long time...
dacontinent
Preacher
For those of you who need some idea of the Boom's Big Band Sound. I wasn't able to find the definitive examples that I was looking for, but I did find some remnants.Oh okay. That's your qualifications for Big Band Sound. Like I said....my people.
The things that you will notice most obviously in these clips are:
- Top trumpets only occasionally taking things up an octave so as to accentuate certain hits - like a big band.
- No trumpets hanging over.
- The sonority of the alto and tenor voicings.
- The instrumentation, particularly just enough bass.
This is from the year before I got to Jackson. Even SHAME has a Big Band sonority.
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Here is Prof's Can't Turn You Loose from my Junior year.
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This is from my senior year at JSU...after SIVAD had passed away. However his influence is still there.
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SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
That's when JSU actually march... Some of these cats on here from JSU would have never made them bands with their lazy arses...
My uncle was a freshman on trumpet in that 78 band of JSU's.. I remember him talking about that show...
Have to give him a call to let him know I finally saw what he was talking about...
:tup:
dacontinent
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Co-sign
O'Bladerunner
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:lol:
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
JR
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That aint what I was getting at when I said Groove. Back then they put you in the pocket when listening to them. It was smooth. Swagger is attitude. They had that as well. But the difference was that their swagger didn't get in the way of a style that was unique to them and what Prof Davis (Sivad) had created and Harold Haughton carried on.
Don't know what to think about today's Swagger you are referring to.
O'Bladerunner
And Down!
Renardo R. Murray
Renardo R. Murray, Associate Director of Bands
Renardo Murray is Assistant Band Director and Instructor of Music at Jackson State University. He received the Bachelor of Music Education degree from Alcorn State University, Lorman, Mississippi and the Master of Music Education degree from Jackson State University. Murray has had extensive experience as a junior high and high school band director. He is a superb bandmaster, disciplinarian, motivator and teacher. His bands have consistently received superior and excellent ratings at State and local band festivals. At Jackson State his teaching duties include assisting with the marching band and concert band, directing the pep band, teaching applied tuba and music appreciation. His affiliations include the Music Educators National Conference (MENC), the College Band Directors National Association (CBDNA), and Kappa Kappa Psi Band Fraternity.
http://sonicboomofthesouth.com/staff/dr-paxton-girtmon/
bernard
THEE Realist
Finally someone that knows what they are talking about! Someone who actually played in the "Sonic Boom" during the "Big Band Sound" era at JSU and not someone who played in a Liddell version of the "Sonic Boom". :noidea:
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ClevePVAMU
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Renardo R. Murray
Renardo R. Murray, Associate Director of Bands
Renardo Murray is Assistant Band Director and Instructor of Music at Jackson State University. He received the Bachelor of Music Education degree from Alcorn State University, Lorman, Mississippi and the Master of Music Education degree from Jackson State University. Murray has had extensive experience as a junior high and high school band director. He is a superb bandmaster, disciplinarian, motivator and teacher. His bands have consistently received superior and excellent ratings at State and local band festivals. At Jackson State his teaching duties include assisting with the marching band and concert band, directing the pep band, teaching applied tuba and music appreciation. His affiliations include the Music Educators National Conference (MENC), the College Band Directors National Association (CBDNA), and Kappa Kappa Psi Band Fraternity.
http://sonicboomofthesouth.com/staff/dr-paxton-girtmon/
Technically, he IS a graduate of Jackson State...
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