Where should the SWAC Championship football be played?
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Robber
Consigliere
Been hard at it today, so I'm just getting back to the page for a hot second.
Anyway, I think each member school should collect a check of at least $100K off of this game. I wanted to say way more than that, but I'll be conservative. Again, the business of championship games is about money. If the conference made a profit of only $50K on this game, what do the schools get??? That's just an example, because I have no clue what's made from this game.
Earlier you compared the SCG to the Circle City, Bayou and other Classics. Big difference. They only deal with 2 schools. Here, we got 10 schools sharing the wealth, so to speak. We need to make a lot more money.
JSU'99
Allergic to stupidity
I agree with you there.
But I'm not sold on houston, I think Memphis would be a great location for it. Just look how they flock to Southern Heritage Classic. They hunger for black college sports. New Orleans already has the Bayou. It could work, but that's a lot to changed to spend in less than 3 weeks. (let's face, West will be represented by Gram or SU).
the swac doesn't even get good coverage from houston media and there are 2 schools in or near the city. they would have to come up with an impressive sponsorship package to come to B'ham
SWAC pays no fees to utilize Legion Field- would any fees be assessed by Reliant
MACHIAVELLI
Chairman/C.E.O.
I say Shreveport or Jackson. What was the weather like in Jackson on Saturday?
Seeing Spots
Joyful Woman!
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Mr. SWAC
F*** THE LAKERS!!!!!!
Interesting that you two would say that. Icontigermike, are you saying that GSU should not have been the SWAC champs in 2001 when they "fluked up" and defeated ASU in the SCG when Bama St. had alreadyn beat GSU in the regular season?
ASU, not sure if this is for Bama St. or Alcorn, but if Bama St.(which your comments wouldn't make sense) then the same goes to you as for icontigermike. Now if you're a Brave than say just so happens that Bama St. lost their final SWAC game the week after AAMU lost to you. That would have matched up SU vs. Alcorn St. for the SWAC Championship. But according to you SU is already the champs so too bad Alcorn. Moving on,..............
Like Mighty Hornet was alluding to, some of you all are living in a fantasy world. What I mean by that is that you are getting good turnout, sponsorship, costs, package, etc. from a still new SCG (that is continuously growing every year in some form or fashion), but are expecting the sell out crowds, sponsorhips $, etc. as D1-A BCS conferences whose avg attendance per game is 75k+ immediately. Do you think any other D1-AA conference, including MEAC, could muster up together a package that the SWAC has for a conference championship game? Recognize a good thing when you have it, and give it time to get rooted and grow. Rome wasnt' built in a day, and neither was the Bayou Classic, or any other Classic and/or Bowl game (for the D1-A conferences) for that matter. Consider what you got, and what others are offering seriously before making these judgements about what B-Ham has to offer.
ATL should be out of the question not only for the simple fact that there is not a SWAC school in the state, but Atlanta is not a supportive sports city like some of you think. Neither is Houston. And if the SWAC was making the kind of money in NO that some of you are wanting we wouldn't have relocated offices from there. Give the game a chance to grow. Upping and moving to a new venue takes the SWAC back 5 years to 1999. Attendance will still be the same (maybe lower) as it is in B-Ham, and we would be paying all different types of cost just to stay in the city.
And finally, 31,000+ ain't bad in horrible weather conditions. I guess some of you in fact were expecting the upper deck levels to be filled up too.
MACHIAVELLI
Chairman/C.E.O.
You have this sdrawkcab.
MACK OF THE SWAC
New Member
Moving the game to New Orleans would not compete with the Bayou Classic.
Move the game to Jackson or Shreveport they are more centrally located or even Baton Rouge, but not to Houston or Atlanta.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
I know that a lot of you think that I am baised toward Jackson but if this thing about the football game, then to me, it should be in Jackson because there is not a city in the SWAC that is not accessible to Jackson at the last minute. The drawback to Jackson is the battle of the bands (no second stadium) and the lack of a domed stadium. If we want this to be an event, Band Battle, step shows, clubbing etc....Houston is the place.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
MikeBigg,
You have to remember what the original purpose of this game was....it was to make money to be split between all 10 schools and the SWAC conference.
For that to happen, we need at least 50K to attend every year. We also need to have a successful and sponsored Battle of the Bands on that Friday night and a successful and sponsored Step Show/Concert the night of the game. Also couldn't hurt to have a parade featuring local/state HS bands and SWAC bands. But we need a city with enough venues for this to go down.
You have to remember what the original purpose of this game was....it was to make money to be split between all 10 schools and the SWAC conference.
For that to happen, we need at least 50K to attend every year. We also need to have a successful and sponsored Battle of the Bands on that Friday night and a successful and sponsored Step Show/Concert the night of the game. Also couldn't hurt to have a parade featuring local/state HS bands and SWAC bands. But we need a city with enough venues for this to go down.
Jafus (Thinker)
Well-Known Member
Robber,
I understand the busy schedule. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Excellent point and I would agree I think that at least generating $100K for each member institution is a reasonable request. Honestly, if the SWAC Championship Game stays the course they should be able to meet this goal in a relatively short period of time.
In regards to only generating 50K (as an example number), although I would agree that this isn't anything to get excited about. It should be noted that 50K could off set some the cost related the conference so-called non-revenue generating SWAC Championship sports (especially the SWAC Spring Championships).
My only point, in regards to comparing the game to those classics is the fact that they are able to generate upwards of 1M to 1.5M in revenue. But they all took time to grow to that level of generating this type of revenue.
For whatever reason, it seems like BCF fans that have concerns with the SWAC Championship Game and previously the Heritage Bowl in regards to attendance. Never seem to want to give them much time and room for the normal growth period to match some of the larger well attended "Classics".
I understand the busy schedule. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Excellent point and I would agree I think that at least generating $100K for each member institution is a reasonable request. Honestly, if the SWAC Championship Game stays the course they should be able to meet this goal in a relatively short period of time.
In regards to only generating 50K (as an example number), although I would agree that this isn't anything to get excited about. It should be noted that 50K could off set some the cost related the conference so-called non-revenue generating SWAC Championship sports (especially the SWAC Spring Championships).
My only point, in regards to comparing the game to those classics is the fact that they are able to generate upwards of 1M to 1.5M in revenue. But they all took time to grow to that level of generating this type of revenue.
For whatever reason, it seems like BCF fans that have concerns with the SWAC Championship Game and previously the Heritage Bowl in regards to attendance. Never seem to want to give them much time and room for the normal growth period to match some of the larger well attended "Classics".
DAHILL
Well-Known Member
Im not understanding... so Birmingham doesnt have enough venues for what all you just said... 50,000 (Legion Field holds 86,000) Step Show-Battle of bands (Boutwell Auditorium or BJCC which seats about 18,000 and even host NCAA regionals, parade (Magic City Classic parade is probably one on the largest HBCU Classic parades behind the Circle City Classic)
and to add in one other thing.... Jackson has ZERO club scene.... For people my age Huntsville has way more clubs than Jackson... everytime I go to Jackson, the only club I hear about is Soops and that is what I consider a hole in the wall club. Bham is light years ahead of Jackson on anything to do with a club scene. Birmingham has more clubs on one street (1st Ave) than Jackson has in the whole city.
Normal1875
A&M #1
It kills TP to have the SWAC championship in Birmingham, Alabama!
dude you need to stop with all the senseless rhetoric.
dude you need to stop with all the senseless rhetoric.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
Jackson is only good for the football game. It's the BEST place for the football game but not the accompanying events.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
DaHill, if you would learn to read, you would see how stupid this post is.
...and TRU, stop cosigning like D-Town. Actually, Bham is not bad for JSU but it is bad for the SWAC.
BulldogM.Ed.23
Bulldog Fan/Supporter
<---would rather see all SWAC schools play each other during the regular season with the SWAC Champ making a run in the 1-AA playoffs.....,
As for Gram. and Southern why not move the BC bacK???
As for Gram. and Southern why not move the BC bacK???
northern tiger
Active Member
Thats the damn problem in a nutshell, the attitude needs to be changed as far as the entire SWAC embracing the SCG as its own. Basically, it is what it is, a championship game for the participants, not the conference as a family. If we don't love ourselves, no one else will. If I were from the outside, the only schools interested in the SCG would be JSU, SU, GSU, ALASU, and AAMU (the last two only because its played in its home state). The mentality has to change for the concept of a championship game to be successful for OUR conference.