Weezy is mad!


mighty hornet said:
what catastrophe on the scale of that earthquake is the USA facing at HOME?
Thanks for sayin this, which further proves my point. We have smaller shat that happens here that ain't gettin handled by us like we handling everybody elses big stuff

I (United States) may not be eating filet mignon every night at HOME, but hey, at least I am eating. If I KNOW my neighbor (Haiti) has NOTHING to eat, NO water to drink, NO where to lay his head, NOWHERE to go to school, am I wrong to help, just because I aint eating filet mignon?

So thats basically sayin...If you(USA) was in a War, and only got shot in the leg(NOLA,But still YOU), And John Doe(Japan) got shot in the chest, You'd forgo rehabiltation and get ya leg amputated, to go save someone else....[/OLOR]
btw, you just might be surprised at how many of your tax dollars go out of the country.Which is exactly why I stated what I stated about the USA NOT TAKING CARE OF HOME FIRST!
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so Smoke,
Does everything have to be PERFECT at HOME before you agree to help even offer a morsel of food, a drink of water? If there is ANY issue at HOME, then you'd feel right in turning your back to such basic human needs? If you got a bulldozer and this lil child is trapped in the rubble under a building,, you would just stand there and feel right in not offering to help that child, because she's not your child or your brother's child? The USA aint talking about going to Haiti, adopting every citizen and giving them all Mercedes, 500K bank accounts, a 5 bedroom house. We're talking about the USA going over there to help with rescue, food, water, medical assistance, security, etc. in helping to rebuild our neighbor who was devasted by an earthquake.
 



mighty hornet said:
so Smoke,
Does everything have to be PERFECT at HOME before you agree to help even offer a morsel of food, a drink of water?.
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Stopped reading... Brah, Have you been to New Orleans lately :retard: Ain't shat nowhere near perfect :lol:

And food and water?!?!? :retard: 305mil in 8 days?



Haiti donations exceed $305 million
By Blake Ellis, contributing writerJanuary 21, 2010: 3:25 PM ET


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Eight days after the devastating earthquake struck near Haiti's capital, donations for relief efforts are still pouring in -- in excess of $305 million..

Charities, companies, individuals and celebrities across the U.S. have been rallying together in the aftermath of the 7.0-magnitude quake last Tuesday, and their efforts are paying off.
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http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/21/news/international/haiti_donations/index.htm?section=money_latest&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_latest+(Latest+News)




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And please believe MH, I see ya point u coming from, But I guess we got diff views on it. :tup:





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mighty hornet said:
so Smoke,
Does everything have to be PERFECT at HOME before you agree to help even offer a morsel of food, a drink of water? If there is ANY issue at HOME, then you'd feel right in turning your back to such basic human needs? If you got a bulldozer and this lil child is trapped in the rubble under a building,, you would just stand there and feel right in not offering to help that child, because she's not your child or your brother's child? The USA aint talking about going to Haiti, adopting every citizen and giving them all Mercedes, 500K bank accounts, a 5 bedroom house. We're talking about the USA going over there to help with rescue, food, water, medical assistance, security, etc. in helping to rebuild our neighbor who was devasted by an earthquake.
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Smoke,
The point is that things will NEVER and NEVER have been perfect. It's always something. (poverty, lack of afterschool care, crime, etc) But that doesnt mean that we dont step in and help. I might have a bill to pay, but that doesn't mean I can't or won't spare a dollar to help buy some medicine that will save lives. The store down the street may just have got robbed, but that doesnt mean I can't offer a thirsty man a drink of water or a bite to eat. Plus, if you're poor in New Orleans or Atl or Montgomery, you have access to getting assistance to eat. If your whole country has been devasted by an earthquake, in the immediate aftermath, you don't have access to anything. Other than what others are willing to give.

and the article you linked is regarding $$$ that folks and other organizations are donating. You just posted how you dont have a problem with folks opening their own wallets to help.
 
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mighty hornet said:
Smoke,
The point is that things will NEVER and NEVER have been perfect. It's always something. (poverty, lack of afterschool care, crime, etc) But that doesnt mean that we dont step in and help. I might have a bill to pay, but that doesn't mean I can't or won't spare a dollar to help buy some medicine that will save lives. The store down the street may just have got robbed, but that doesnt mean I can't offer a thirsty man a drink of water or a bite to eat. Plus, if you're poor in New Orleans or Atl or Montgomery, you have access to getting assistance to eat. If your whole country has been devasted by an earthquake, in the immediate aftermath, you don't have access to anything. Other than what others are willing to give.

and the article you linked is regarding $$$ that folks and other organizations are donating. You just posted how you dont have a problem with folks opening their own wallets to help.
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Ok MH. yes the article is bout people donating ya ya ya. thats cool. But i have a problem with My tax dollars , like you said, being sent to haiti and other places, and my tax dollars, took over a year for most ppl ( MY AUNT IN NOLA INCLUDED) to get a FEMA check. But niether view is wrong, but we just have a diff opinion on the situation
 
so while Wayne is complaining what is he doing to help his own city, besides getting arrested?
 
jelli said:
so while Wayne is complaining what is he doing to help his own city, besides getting arrested?
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The problem is that Wayne is not a public servant. He does not control folks lives such as a public servant. Wayne did not get voted to a public servant seat by people. Wayne had money to take care of his self and family. He has a voice that can be heard unlike the average poor person. That is why he said this. Folks always wanna bring someone's back ground into something when they are telling the truth. Wayne just said what 90% of the poor folks in his home town is saying because America want listen to them. Whether he is a thug or what ever has nothing to do with the truth he spoke. The people don't pay Wayne taxes, but they pay the government who want help them. That is the point, but we would rather ignore that and worry about Wayne going to jail.
 
CEE DOG said:
The problem is that Wayne is not a public servant. He does not control folks lives such as a public servant. Wayne did not get voted to a public servant seat by people. Wayne had money to take care of his self and family. He has a voice that can be heard unlike the average poor person. That is why he said this. Folks always wanna bring someone's back ground into something when they are telling the truth. Wayne just said what 90% of the poor folks in his home town is saying because America want listen to them. Whether he is a thug or what ever has nothing to do with the truth he spoke. The people don't pay Wayne taxes, but they pay the government who want help them. That is the point, but we would rather ignore that and worry about Wayne going to jail.
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I think the reason why someone would bring up Wayne's pending incarceration is to point out his credibility. Look at it from their point of view "Why is Wayne speaking up about his disenchantment with the recovery efforts following Hurricane Katrina when he is about to be jailed for breaking the law?"

Or how will anyone take his plight seriously when he himself is a troublemaker? That is how one would look at it.
 
kendrick said:
I think the reason why someone would bring up Wayne's pending incarceration is to point out his credibility. Look at it from their point of view "Why is Wayne speaking up about his disenchantment with the recovery efforts following Hurricane Katrina when he is about to be jailed for breaking the law?"

Or how will anyone take his plight seriously when he himself is a troublemaker? That is how one would look at it.
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But what does this have to do with the truth? He is human. Humans will make mistakes. The problem is Americans fin joy in other folks misery to cover up their own misery. bottom line. His opinion is still as valid as a so called righteous man. America let the ball drop on the 9th ward because they have plans for it. Bottom line.
 
kendrick said:
I think the reason why someone would bring up Wayne's pending incarceration is to point out his credibility. Look at it from their point of view "Why is Wayne speaking up about his disenchantment with the recovery efforts following Hurricane Katrina when he is about to be jailed for breaking the law?"

Or how will anyone take his plight seriously when he himself is a troublemaker? That is how one would look at it.
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So going to jail in New York for a handgun that he has had all along and was registered in every state that has a backbone is a knock on his credibility.
I'm not a Lil Wayne apologist but this jail sentence is nothing but bullshat.
It shows just how spineless, targeting, and loopy New york really is.

NYPD came on his tour bus when he was there performing and found that gun in a compartment.
He was not carrying it around, fighting, or threating anyone.
In New York, you can get up to 4 years just for possesing a gun so he finally fessed up to the gun being his and pled guilty so they would not fugg with other people with him.

Ya'll act like he went out and shot the damm mayor or something.
If this had been anybody but a rapper saying this, nobody would have even bought this New York railroad job up as a knock on his cred.
Maybe he should have hid $90,000 in bribe money under some porkchops for those cops.
Judging on how people pick and choose the people they give a break too and the people they slam, Lil Wayne would be getting slaps on the back right now like Rep. Jefferson. :lol:
 
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CEE DOG said:
But what does this have to do with the truth? He is human. Humans will make mistakes. The problem is Americans fin joy in other folks misery to cover up their own misery. bottom line. His opinion is still as valid as a so called righteous man. America let the ball drop on the 9th ward because they have plans for it. Bottom line.
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Because to some it makes him seem crass in respect to the plight of those affected by the Haitian earthquake. America goofed up in handling the aftermath following Hurricane Katrina, and people are still suffering to this day. I think we all acknowledge that. However, that does not mean we have to feel guilty for being concerned about the Haiti victims.
 
players said:
So going to jail in New York for a handgun that he has had all along and was registered in every state that has a backbone is a knock on his credibility.
I'm not a Lil Wayne apologist but this jail sentence is nothing but bullshat.
It shows just how spineless, targeting, and loopy New york really is.

NYPD came on his tour bus when he was there performing and found that gun in a compartment.
He was not carrying it around, fighting, or threating anyone.
In New York, you can get up to 4 years just for possesing a gun so he finally fessed up to the gun being his and pled guilty so they would not fugg with other people with him.

Ya'll act like he went out and shot the damm mayor or something.
If this had been anybody but a rapper saying this, nobody would have even bought this New York railroad job up as a knock on his cred.
Maybe he should have hid $90,000 in bribe money under some porkchops for those cops.
Judging on how people pick and choose the people they give a break too and the people they slam, Lil Wayne would be getting slaps on the back right now like Rep. Jefferson. :lol:
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1. I don't care about NY gun laws. That is totally irrelevant to this discussion.

2. I never said I agreed with the POV I presented. I was just explaining how some people would view Wayne's comments with the knowledge of his upcoming jail term. That's it.
 
kendrick said:
1. I don't care about NY gun laws. That is totally irrelevant to this discussion.

2. I never said I agreed with the POV I presented. I was just explaining how some people would view Wayne's comments with the knowledge of his upcoming jail term. That's it.
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Contradiction to the 10...........:lol:

You don't care but you throw out the very reason he is going to jail to prove a point.
OOOOOOOOOOO K.
This is why I say people like him, with money like him, should just stay out of the accepted people way.
Since he should have no voice, he should sit back, enjoy his sucess, and let others worry about New Orleans just like all the other rappers from New Orleans/Louisana. :lol:
 
players said:
Contradiction to the 10...........:lol:

You don't care but you throw out the very reason he is going to jail to prove a point.
OOOOOOOOOOO K.
This is why I say people like him, with money like him, should just stay out of the accepted people way.
Since he should have no voice, he should sit back, enjoy his sucess, and let others worry about New Orleans just like all the other rappers from New Orleans/Louisana. :lol:
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When I said I don't care about NY guns laws, I meant from the standpoint of trying to dissect it to the perceived fairness or unfairness of his jail sentence.

Wayne has the right to say what he wants. I had no problem with what he said regarding his comparison about the outreach of Katrina victims versus Haiti victims. I'm just explaining how other people who look at him as rapper now felon feel about what he said.
 
kendrick said:
I think Wayne is right in the sense that FEMA and the government dropped the ball when it came to aid following Hurricane Katrina.

However, the American public gave tremendously to the Gulf Coast after that natural disaster like we had never seen in this country.
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You are absolutely correct. I'm going to say this knowing that a lot of folks won't like it, but THE UNITES STATES GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T GIVE N.O. ANOTHER DAMN DIME FOR REBUILDING. We have given N.O. billions of dollars and what in the hell have they done with it? They are the ones who elected these incompetent leaders to run that city. Don't blame the U.S. government or the American people because parts of N.O. still look like crap Lil Wayne. Blame your local and state officials. I don't want no more of my money going to that place period.
 
jag4life said:
The American public gave to the Red Cross... who distributed that money into their general operating budget instead of to Katrina survivors.
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That's BS. Some did give to the Red Cross as well as other charities. A lot of Americans went to N.O. and Mississippi directly to help with the recovery. I personally know a lot of folks from VA who have been down there.
 
Styles said:
You are absolutely correct. I'm going to say this knowing that a lot of folks won't like it, but THE UNITES STATES GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T GIVE N.O. ANOTHER DAMN DIME FOR REBUILDING. We have given N.O. billions of dollars and what in the hell have they done with it? They are the ones who elected these incompetent leaders to run that city. Don't blame the U.S. government or the American people because parts of N.O. still look like crap Lil Wayne. Blame your local and state officials. I don't want no more of my money going to that place period.
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I heard a statement from a person who lives in N.O., and he mentioned some of the same things you are about the corruption and poor leadership that has run rampant in that region which has slowed the rebuilding efforts.
 
CEE DOG said:
Never under estimate the man. They always have a plan. Always. Look at every inner city in America. They tricked all of us to the suburbs in the early 90's, now the inner city has changed and values of home where drug wars and kids died are now million dollar estates.
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N.O has had a black mayor for the last 30+ years. There are also plenty of blacks on the City Council. Who is the man you're talking about?
 
kendrick said:
I heard a statement from a person who lives in N.O., and he mentioned some of the same things you are about the corruption and poor leadership that has run rampant in that region which has slowed the rebuilding efforts.
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This was written in 2007.

The frustrations are many, and all too often they boil down to money. By some measures, New Orleans is flush with cash. About $25 billion of Katrina-related private insurance claims have been paid out in Louisiana, some of which went to rebuilding damaged homes.

What's more, the federal government has allocated nearly $27 billion for housing, rebuilding the levees, and what's known as hazard mitigation, the messy job of removing debris and repairing critical infrastructure, like broken sewer lines and potholed roads. Too few of those dollars, however, have found their way into the local economy.

Bank deposits have skyrocketed, indicating that the insured haven't decided whether to reinvest in their community. Just 22 percent of the funds Washington has set aside for rebuilding Louisiana have been spent. For example, the program that compensates uninsured homeowners for their losses took more than a year to establish and only recently has begun distributing checks in significant quantities.

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Styles said:
N.O has had a black mayor for the last 30+ years. There are also plenty of blacks on the City Council. Who is the man you're talking about?
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The man is the white man with money who controls real estate. Let's be truthful here, Mayors are puppets. Those who have financial control are the ones who run America. Real estate is a rich man's game who really determines how a city develops. Developers have a ten year plan. That plan goes accordingly to how the money is passed around to the city council and state law makers. Black folks have got to start looking out of their rose colored glasses. Those who have money such as lobbyist control every law made in this country.
 
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