USC: Best team in the country?


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chrisd said:
This should be a fun comparison. :)

2008: at Virginia, Ohio State, Notre Dame
2007: Idaho, at Nebraska, at Notre Dame
2006: at Arkansas, Nebraska, Notre Dame
2005: at Hawaii, Arkansas, at Notre Dame, Fresno State
2004: Virginia Tech (at Landover, MD), Colorado State, at BYU, Notre Dame
2003: at Auburn, BYU, Hawaii, at Notre Dame
2002: Auburn, at Colorado, at Kansas State (loss, KSu finished 11-2, and in the top 10), Notre Dame
2001: San Jose State, Kansas State (loss), at Notre Dame (loss)
2000: Penn State (at Giants Stadium), Colorado, San Jose State, Notre Dame (loss)
1999: at Hawaii, San Diego State, at Notre Dame (loss), Louisiana Tech

So that's 14 BCS conference schools, plus the 10 Notre Dame games for a total of 24 games against BCS eligible teams. that's four times as many as LSU over the same time span, and they play one less non-conference game per season now.
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I dont even know why you bothered to post this. Everybody knows USC has a tight OOC schedule year after year.
 



JayRob said:
Dude, your argument is skewed from the start. LSU is forced to play BCS schools EVERY year like Georgia, Florida, Alabama and Auburn and Tennessee when they're good.

USC hasn't played ONE BCS school in it's OWN conference in 8-10 years. Why would LSU be a fool and schedule more BCS schools when it automatically plays at least two of them every year? That would be stupid.

USC is the school who needs to play tougher out of conference schools due to their sorry PAC 10 conference.
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USC plays in a BCS conference too. They play nine conference games each year, and have not scheduled a 1AA cupcake in at least a decade.
 
chrisd said:
This should be a fun comparison. :)

2008: at Virginia, Ohio State, Notre Dame
2007: Idaho, at Nebraska, at Notre Dame
2006: at Arkansas, Nebraska, Notre Dame
2005: at Hawaii, Arkansas, at Notre Dame, Fresno State
2004: Virginia Tech (at Landover, MD), Colorado State, at BYU, Notre Dame
2003: at Auburn, BYU, Hawaii, at Notre Dame
2002: Auburn, at Colorado, at Kansas State (loss, KSu finished 11-2, and in the top 10), Notre Dame
2001: San Jose State, Kansas State (loss), at Notre Dame (loss)
2000: Penn State (at Giants Stadium), Colorado, San Jose State, Notre Dame (loss)
1999: at Hawaii, San Diego State, at Notre Dame (loss), Louisiana Tech

So that's 14 BCS conference schools, plus the 10 Notre Dame games for a total of 24 games against BCS eligible teams. that's four times as many as LSU over the same time span, and they play one less non-conference game per season now.
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Dude, you just shot down your own argument that USC plays a tough schedule. From 2004-08, none of those teams USC played were that good, except Ohio State. Notre Dame and Nebraska are average at best.

Like I said, USC is forced to have to play a tougher schedule due to a weaker PAC-10 conference.

Has the PAC 10 been stronger than the SEC over the last four years?
 
chrisd said:
USC plays in a BCS conference too. They play nine conference games each year, and have not scheduled a 1AA cupcake in at least a decade.
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LOL, every team in the SEC has played the Citadel. Yeah, the mighty Citadel.
 
chrisd said:
USC plays in a BCS conference too. They play nine conference games each year, and have not scheduled a 1AA cupcake in at least a decade.
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How many BCS schools have come out of the PAC 10, other than USC, over the last four years?!
 
JayRob said:
Dude, you just shot down your own argument that USC plays a tough schedule. From 2004-08, none of those teams USC played were that good, except Ohio State. Notre Dame and Nebraska are average at best.

Like I said, USC is forced to have to play a tougher schedule due to a weaker PAC-10 conference.

Has the PAC 10 been stronger than the SEC over the last four years?
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Jayrob maybe you can answer my question. What happened in 06 when USC put up 70 on Arkansas? Yeah that same team that played in the SEC Championship that year? Please answer that for me........:lol:
 
JayRob said:
Dude, you just shot down your own argument that USC plays a tough schedule. From 2004-08, none of those teams USC played were that good, except Ohio State. Notre Dame and Nebraska are average at best.

Like I said, USC is forced to have to play a tougher schedule due to a weaker PAC-10 conference.

Has the PAC 10 been stronger than the SEC over the last four years?
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What does that have to do with USC being 82-9 since Pete Carroll took over and winning two national titles?
 
Styles said:
LOL, every team in the SEC has played the Citadel. Yeah, the mighty Citadel.
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Two questions.....
Name ONE conference that's tougher than the SEC year in and year out.
Name a school from the PAC 10, other than USC, to play in a BCS game in the last four years.
 
JayRob said:
Two questions.....
Name a school from the PAC 10, other than USC, to play in a BCS game in the last four years.
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Why stop at the last 4 years? But here are all the Pac 10 schools who've played in BCS bowls.

Oregon
Oregon State
Washington
Stanford
UCLA
Washington State
USC

Total is 7.

Guess how many SEC teams have played in BCS bowls?
 
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PsychoJag said:
Jayrob maybe you can answer my question. What happened in 06 when USC put up 70 on Arkansas? Yeah that same team that played in the SEC Championship that year? Please answer that for me........:lol:
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So just because Team A put up 70 on Team B, does that mean they'll put up 70 on a totally different Team C? No. Teams matchup differently with each other. That USC team didn't even win the national championship, so that's a useless point.
 
JayRob said:
Two questions.....
Name ONE conference that's tougher than the SEC year in and year out.
Name a school from the PAC 10, other than USC, to play in a BCS game in the last four years.
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Dude you keep harping on that but the FACT is that the SEC only has 2 teams in a BSC game this year. That's not heads and heals over the Pac-10. It's obvious that the SEC was down this year. Stop fronting.

Over the last few years in the Pac-10 Oregon, Oregon St, Cal, and Arizona St have been great teams.
 
Styles said:
Why stop at the last 4 years? But here are all the Pac 10 schools to play in BCS bowls.

Oregon
Oregon State
Washington
Stanford
UCLA
Washington State
USC
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When did Stanford play in a BCS bowl game or Oregon or UCLA or any of those schools you listed, other than USC in the last four years?
 
I have no idea. The SEC teams don't normally play many non-league games against other BCS leagues, so it's hard to make that comparison.

Take a look at this year's SEC games against other BCS leagues:

Alabama beat Clemson (1-0)
Kentucky beat Louisville (2-0)
UCLA beat Tennessee (2-1)
Wake Forest beat Ole Miss (2-2)
Florida beat Miami (3-2)
Georgia Tech beat Mississippi State (3-3)
Georgia beat Arizona State (4-3)
Texas beat Arkansas (4-4)
West Virginia beat Auburn (4-5)
Duke beat Vanderbilt (4-6)
Georgia Tech beat Georgia (4-7)
Clemson beat South Carolina (4-8)
Florida beat Florida State (5-8)
Wake Forest beat Vanderbilt (5-9)

Not a good out of league record for the SEC this year, and it looks even worse if you take away Florida and Alabama going 3-0. They were 3-6 against the ACC, who everyone seems to think was the worst of the BCS conferences this season.

I would say the SEC as a whole is better this season, simply because Washington, Washington State, and UCLA were all completely awful this season.
 
PsychoJag said:
Dude you keep harping on that but the FACT is that the SEC only has 2 teams in a BSC game this year. That's not heads and heals over the Pac-10. It's obvious that the SEC was down this year. Stop fronting.

Over the last few years in the Pac-10 Oregon, Oregon St, Cal, and Arizona St have been great teams.
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A simple answer would suffice. All that other rhetoric is useless. Just answer the two questions.
 



JayRob said:
So just because Team A put up 70 on Team B, does that mean they'll put up 70 on a totally different Team C? No. Teams matchup differently with each other. That USC team didn't even win the national championship, so that's a useless point.
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Nice try but your argument is dead. USC blew out the SEC west champ that year.

You actually killed your own argument in the process because you keep saying the SEC is tougher, the SEC is tougher but what does that have to do with USC being the best team? :lol::lol:
 
JayRob said:
When did Stanford play in a BCS bowl game or Oregon or UCLA or any of those schools you listed, other than USC in the last four years?
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During the history of the BCS, their have been seven different PAC 10 schools and six different SEC schools to make it.
 
chrisd said:
I have no idea. The SEC teams don't normally play many non-league games against other BCS leagues, so it's hard to make that comparison.

Take a look at this year's SEC games against other BCS leagues:

Alabama beat Clemson (1-0)
Kentucky beat Louisville (2-0)
UCLA beat Tennessee (2-1)
Wake Forest beat Ole Miss (2-2)
Florida beat Miami (3-2)
Georgia Tech beat Mississippi State (3-3)
Georgia beat Arizona State (4-3)
Texas beat Arkansas (4-4)
West Virginia beat Auburn (4-5)
Duke beat Vanderbilt (4-6)
Georgia Tech beat Georgia (4-7)
Clemson beat South Carolina (4-8)
Florida beat Florida State (5-8)
Wake Forest beat Vanderbilt (5-9)

Not a good out of league record for the SEC this year, and it looks even worse if you take away Florida and Alabama going 3-0. They were 3-6 against the ACC, who everyone seems to think was the worst of the BCS conferences this season.

I would say the SEC as a whole is better this season, simply because Washington, Washington State, and UCLA were all completely awful this season.
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Is it too difficult to answer two simple questions?:noidea:
 
Styles said:
During the history of the BCS, their have been seven different PAC 10 schools and six different SEC schools to make it.
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Who has represented the PAC 10 over the last four years in BCS bowls other than USC?

Which conference is tougher than the SEC year in and year out?
 
JayRob said:
Who has represented the PAC 10 over the last four years in BCS bowls other than USC?

Which conference is tougher than the SEC year in and year out?
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What does this have to do with USC being the best team? Especially since you said this

So just because Team A put up 70 on Team B, does that mean they'll put up 70 on a totally different Team C? No. Teams matchup differently with each other
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PsychoJag said:
Nice try but your argument is dead. USC blew out the SEC west champ that year.

You actually killed your own argument in the process because you keep saying the SEC is tougher, the SEC is tougher but what does that have to do with USC being the best team? :lol::lol:
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Hmm, trying to figure out how I killed my own argument.
So USC beating the SEC runnerup means that the PAC 10 was stronger than the SEC or that USC would've beaten the SEC champion?:idea:
 
So the Pac 10 sucks because USC has won it four years in a row and got the automatic BCS slot? Arizona State was screwed out of a spot last season when the Rose Bowl picked an undeserving Illinois team to play in the game, leading to other bowls to change who they were picking. Had the Rose Bowl picked the best team available, Georgia, to replace Ohio State, Arizona State would have landed in either the Sugar Bowl or the Fiesta Bowl. The only BCS game that wanted to pick Illinois was the Rose Bowl, who got first pick based on Ohio State being taken away for the national title game.
 
JayRob said:
Hmm, trying to figure out how I killed my own argument.
So USC beating the SEC runnerup means that the PAC 10 was stronger than the SEC or that USC would've beaten the SEC champion?:idea:
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Jayrob........What's the title of this thread again? Nobody's arguing Pac-10 vs SEC. We're debating whether USC is the best team in the country. Whch is a valid question.

USC putting up 70 on the SEC runner up was a larger victory against them than the SEC champ that year was able to muster (against a one man offense) but again I say that's another topic.
 
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