USC: Best team in the country?


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Styles said:
That's because USC took their pride. That beat down screwed up Auburn's whole season. That Auburn team had talent. Like I said, every since then Auburn only plays cupcakes.
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Dude, I know you can come up with something better than that. Auburn just wasn't good that year. They lost to other schools too, like Ole Miss and Georgia Tech, who were much worse than USC.
 
JayRob said:
Imagine USC having to go to LSU, Bama, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida games, with those crowds, two or three times a year. You can't tell me they'd come out undefeated.
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Nick Saban just took an average Bama team and ran through the SEC. Look at what Bama did to Georgia and LSU in their own stadiums? What happen to the crowds? Hell, Georgia will never wear those black jerseys again. And why is Tennessee even in this conversation? USC would have no problem in the SEC.
 
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JayRob said:
The bowl games are not a true indicator of how good a conference might be. You can't tell me that the top three or four teams in the SEC or Big 12 wouldn't have a better head to head matchup record against the top four teams in the PAC 10.

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Wait a minute here. When the SEC has a solid record in bowl games, ya'll lead the bandwagon in bragging about the conference.

But when another conference like the Pac-10 this season goes undefeated in bowl play, all of a sudden the games don't matter as much. :rolleyes:
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
Beating up on the Pac 10 and Big 10 :lol: .
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And Auburn. And Arkansas. Funny how it's impressive for SEC teams to beat other SEC teams, even when they suck, but when USC beats an SEC team, it doesn't count.

The way USC schedules teams, I don't buy the LSU ducking for one second. They have played home-and-homes with Auburn, Arkansas, Ohio State, went to Virginia Tech for a one-off game. In other words, they don't seem like a program who ducks anybody. LSU's non-conference schedules aren't exactly something to write home about either.

2008: Appy State, Troy, Tulane, North Texas
2007: Virginia Tech (get some credit for that one), Middle Tennessee State, Tulane, Louisiana Tech
2006: Louisiana-Lafayette, Arizona, Tulane, Fresno State
2005: Arizona State, North Texas, Appy State
2004: Oregon State, Arkansas State, Troy
2003: Louisiana-Monroe, Arizona, Western Illinois, Louisiana Tech
2002: Virginia Tech (loss), The Citadel, Miami of Ohio, Louisiana-Lafayette
2001: Utah State, Tulane, Middle Tennessee State
2000: Western Carolina, UAB, Houston
1999: San Jose State, North Texas, Houston (loss at home)

A pretty pathetic non-league schedule for LSU over the last decade. Only 6 games from teams in BCS leagues over 10 years, and three of those six teams had losing records.
 
Styles said:
Nick Saban just took a average Bama team and ran through the SEC. Look what Bama did to Georgia and LSU in their own stadiums? Hell, Georgia will never wear those black jerseys again. And why is Tennessee even in this conversation? USC would have no problem in the SEC.
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Dude, when Tennessee's good, they're very difficult to beat in Knoxville in front of 105,000 fans. Then imagine USC going to Gainesville, then to Baton Rouge, then to Tuscaloosa, then to Athens.

Another thing, when USC plays Big 10 schools, it's usually on their own turf, at the Rose Bowl, which is a huge advantage.

By the way, didn't Carroll lose to Texas a couple years ago for the championship on a neutral field?
 
chrisd said:
And Auburn. And Arkansas. Funny how it's impressive for SEC teams to beat other SEC teams, even when they suck, but when USC beats an SEC team, it doesn't count.

The way USC schedules teams, I don't buy the LSU ducking for one second. They have played home-and-homes with Auburn, Arkansas, Ohio State, went to Virginia Tech for a one-off game. In other words, they don't seem like a program who ducks anybody. LSU's non-conference schedules aren't exactly something to write home about either.

2008: Appy State, Troy, Tulane, North Texas
2007: Virginia Tech (get some credit for that one), Middle Tennessee State, Tulane, Louisiana Tech
2006: Louisiana-Lafayette, Arizona, Tulane, Fresno State
2005: Arizona State, North Texas, Appy State
2004: Oregon State, Arkansas State, Troy
2003: Louisiana-Monroe, Arizona, Western Illinois, Louisiana Tech
2002: Virginia Tech (loss), The Citadel, Miami of Ohio, Louisiana-Lafayette
2001: Utah State, Tulane, Middle Tennessee State
2000: Western Carolina, UAB, Houston
1999: San Jose State, North Texas, Houston (loss at home)

A pretty pathetic non-league schedule for LSU over the last decade. Only 6 games from teams in BCS leagues over 10 years, and three of those six teams had losing records.
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What's USC's non conference sked for this same period?
 
JayRob said:
Dude, when Tennessee's good, they're very difficult to beat in Knoxville in front of 105,000 fans. Then imagine USC going to Gainesville, then to Baton Rouge, then to Tuscaloosa, then to Athens.

Another thing, when USC plays Big 10 schools, it's usually on their own turf, at the Rose Bowl, which is a huge advantage.

By the way, didn't Carroll lose to Texas a couple years ago for the championship on a neutral field?
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1. Tennessee lost to Wyoming at homecoming this season. The Vols did not have to be THAT good to defeat the worst offense in the nation. Oh, and Notre Dame beat them in their last meeting two years ago.

2. USC is going to play at Ohio State next year.

3. USC lost to Texas at the hands of a scrambling Vince Young on basically the last play of the game. The year before that USC beat Oklahoma 55-19.
 
JayRob said:
Dude, when Tennessee's good, they're very difficult to beat in Knoxville in front of 105,000 fans. Then imagine USC going to Gainesville, then to Baton Rouge, then to Tuscaloosa, then to Athens.
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And all of those have gotten their butt kicked at home over the years. Arkansas, Ole Miss and Miss. State don't have a problem playing in Gainesville, Tuscaloosa, or Baton Rouge. And those are weak SEC teams.
 
chrisd said:
And Auburn. And Arkansas. Funny how it's impressive for SEC teams to beat other SEC teams, even when they suck, but when USC beats an SEC team, it doesn't count.

A pretty pathetic non-league schedule for LSU over the last decade. Only 6 games from teams in BCS leagues over 10 years, and three of those six teams had losing records.
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Dude, your argument is skewed from the start. LSU is forced to play BCS schools EVERY year like Georgia, Florida, Alabama and Auburn and Tennessee when they're good.

USC hasn't played ONE BCS school in it's OWN conference in 8-10 years. Why would LSU be a fool and schedule more BCS schools when it automatically plays at least two of them every year? That would be stupid.

USC is the school who needs to play tougher out of conference schools due to their sorry PAC 10 conference.
 



Again I'll ask....didn't USC beat the heyal out of that Arkansas team that was led by Mcfadden? That same team that whooped LSU. Correction. Mcfadden beat lsu by himself. LMAO
 
kendrick said:
1. Tennessee lost to Wyoming at homecoming this season. The Vols did not have to be THAT good to defeat the worst offense in the nation. Oh, and Notre Dame beat them in their last meeting two years ago.

2. USC is going to play at Ohio State next year.

3. USC lost to Texas at the hands of a scrambling Vince Young on basically the last play of the game. The year before that USC beat Oklahoma 55-19.
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Kendrick, I said when Tennessee is good. It's quite obvious they weren't that good this year.

And USC is finally going to play AT a quality Big 10 school.

Bottom line is that there's no tougher conference year in and year out than the SEC.
 
JayRob said:
Dude, your argument is skewed from the start. LSU is forced to play BCS schools EVERY year like Georgia, Florida, Alabama and Auburn and Tennessee when they're good.

USC hasn't played ONE BCS school in it's OWN conference in 8-10 years. Why would LSU be a fool and schedule more BCS schools when it automatically plays at least two of them every year? That would be stupid.

USC is the school who needs to play tougher out of conference schools due to their sorry PAC 10 conference.
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Isn't the Pac-10 a BCS conference just like the SEC? And isn't the Pac-10 5-0 in bowl games?
 
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PsychoJag said:
Again I'll ask....didn't USC beat the heyal out of that Arkansas team that was led by Mcfadden? That same team that whooped LSU. Correction. Mcfadden beat lsu by himself. LMAO
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And Arkansas was a team with NO QB. Had to put McFadden in the shotgun. Shameful. But they worked LSU, went to the SEC championship game and scared the crap out of Florida. But USC dropped 50 on them at Arkansas.
 
kendrick said:
Wait a minute here. When the SEC has a solid record in bowl games, ya'll lead the bandwagon in bragging about the conference.

But when another conference like the Pac-10 this season goes undefeated in bowl play, all of a sudden the games don't matter as much. :rolleyes:
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The PAC 10's out of conference record this year was poor at best. I gave you the stats on California, Oregon and Oregon State. You can't erase that.
 
Robber said:
And Arkansas was a team with NO QB. Had to put McFadden in the shotgun. Shameful. But they worked LSU, went to the SEC championship game and scared the crap out of Florida. But USC dropped 50 on them at Arkansas.
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Actually at that time they had a pretty good QB in Mitch Mustain. He was benched by the time that LSU game came around. Guess where ol mitch transferred to? USC........That arse whoopin stayed on his mind. :lol::lol:

It's ashame what McFadden did to LSU......:shame:
 
newboy said:
What's USC's non conference sked for this same period?
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This should be a fun comparison. :)

2008: at Virginia, Ohio State, Notre Dame
2007: Idaho, at Nebraska, at Notre Dame
2006: at Arkansas, Nebraska, Notre Dame
2005: at Hawaii, Arkansas, at Notre Dame, Fresno State
2004: Virginia Tech (at Landover, MD), Colorado State, at BYU, Notre Dame
2003: at Auburn, BYU, Hawaii, at Notre Dame
2002: Auburn, at Colorado, at Kansas State (loss, KSu finished 11-2, and in the top 10), Notre Dame
2001: San Jose State, Kansas State (loss), at Notre Dame (loss)
2000: Penn State (at Giants Stadium), Colorado, San Jose State, Notre Dame (loss)
1999: at Hawaii, San Diego State, at Notre Dame (loss), Louisiana Tech

So that's 14 BCS conference schools, plus the 10 Notre Dame games for a total of 24 games against BCS eligible teams. that's four times as many as LSU over the same time span, and they play one less non-conference game per season now.
 
chrisd said:
This should be a fun comparison. :)

2008: at Virginia, Ohio State, Notre Dame
2007: Idaho, at Nebraska, at Notre Dame
2006: at Arkansas, Nebraska, Notre Dame
2005: at Hawaii, Arkansas, at Notre Dame, Fresno State
2004: Virginia Tech (at Landover, MD), Colorado State, at BYU, Notre Dame
2003: at Auburn, BYU, Hawaii, at Notre Dame
2002: Auburn, at Colorado, at Kansas State (loss, KSu finished 11-2, and in the top 10), Notre Dame
2001: San Jose State, Kansas State (loss), at Notre Dame (loss)
2000: Penn State (at Giants Stadium), Colorado, San Jose State, Notre Dame (loss)
1999: at Hawaii, San Diego State, at Notre Dame (loss), Louisiana Tech

So that's 14 BCS conference schools, plus the 10 Notre Dame games for a total of 24 games against BCS eligible teams. that's four times as many as LSU over the same time span, and they play one less non-conference game per season now.
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Good info, now let's watch them try to spin this.
 
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