TxSU Stadium Question???


JAG89 said:
Here's what I was able to put together for you. Since it was done in basic Google Earth, it's not perfect, but it should be good enough to illustrate how the track field would fit if it was reconfigured more on a north to south alignment.

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The only problem is the area to the south does not belong to them. That is a utility easement which belongs to Centerpoint Electric, that's why it it turned the way it is. The only thing they could do is slide it to the northwest on it's current axis and lose that parking area that is there. They would have to also build additional parking garages to hold the added traffic.
 
Fiyah said:
The only problem is the area to the south does not belong to them. That is a utility easement which belongs to Centerpoint Electric, that's why it it turned the way it is. The only thing they could do is slide it to the northwest on it's current axis and lose that parking area that is there. They would have to also build additional parking garages to hold the added traffic.
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Or if they have the funds, they could relocate the road to curve around the north part of the track and slide the track and the field to the north and out of the easement. I believe they could request to use the easement for parking. If the dirt road/walking path is the north edge of the easement, the way I have it currently drawn, the track is approximately 50 ft. encroached in the easement.
 
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JAG89 said:
Or if they have the funds, they could relocate the road to curve around the north part of the track and slide the track and the field to the north and out of the easement. I believe they could request to use the easement for parking.
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If I'm not mistaken that "road" is a primarily pedestrian area.
 
C-LeB28 said:
That "road" once was Wheeler Street which students demanded closed for automobile traffic and converted to the "Tiger Walk". It's not going anywhere.
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I thought so. I wasn't certain. There is pretty much no way to expand Durley. TSU has a great thing going with BBVA anyway. great facility and a very low financial commitment.
 
JAG89 said:
I believe they could request to use the easement for parking.
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At one time in the past it was being used for that, Centerpoint got stingy with a lot of their easements all over the state and stop letting people use them.
 
Fiyah said:
At one time in the past it was being used for that, Centerpoint got stingy with a lot of their easements all over the state and stop letting people use them.
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Yes, we have overhead power lines then they came in and moved them underground. President Rudley came on board and converted
jag4life said:
I thought so. I wasn't certain. There is pretty much no way to expand Durley. TSU has a great thing going with BBVA anyway. great facility and a very low financial commitment.
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Phase 1 for Durley Field is complete (laying new Mondo track surface) now we are waiting on Phase 2 (place additional bleacher seating to accomodate 10,000 spectators for TSU Relays).
 
Fiyah said:
At one time in the past it was being used for that, Centerpoint got stingy with a lot of their easements all over the state and stop letting people use them.
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I'm sure it probably had something to do with the maintenance and upkeep of their easements. I'm sure TSU could arrange an agreement with Centerpoint for the use of that easement.
 
The only things I wish we could add on campus if we had enough room. Would be an indoor practice facility or practice bubble for the football team. And a separate practice facility for the basketball teams. With the rains we got week having a indoor facility would be a welcomed asset. And HPE isn't always available for the kids to work on their skills and the rec center may be full. But until then we improvise.
 
bjnt922 said:
The only things I wish we could add on campus if we had enough room. Would be an indoor practice facility or practice bubble for the football team. And a separate practice facility for the basketball teams. With the rains we got week having a indoor facility would be a welcomed asset. And HPE isn't always available for the kids to work on their skills and the rec center may be full. But until then we improvise.
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We have room for it where the practice field is (between H&PE and the Rec Center) but there was discussion for a softball field there. I'd love for us to have the land Pilgrim sits on (sorry Ms. Scales).
 
C-LeB28 said:
We have room for it where the practice field is (between H&PE and the Rec Center) but there was discussion for a softball field there. I'd love for us to have the land Pilgrim sits on (sorry Ms. Scales).
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That would be enough room to at least put up one of those inflatable practice bubbles.
 
C-LeB28 said:
We have room for it where the practice field is (between H&PE and the Rec Center) but there was discussion for a softball field there. I'd love for us to have the land Pilgrim sits on (sorry Ms. Scales).
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Everybody has a price, including Pilgrim.
 
JAG89 said:
Here's what I was able to put together for you. Since it was done in basic Google Earth, it's not perfect, but it should be good enough to illustrate how the track field would fit if it was reconfigured more on a north to south alignment.

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Thanks JAG89!
 
JAG89 said:
You are welcome, but it sounds like a few in your camp, like the way things are.
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I think that has more to do with the lack of alternatives proposed, and the tendency for ideas and projects to move full steam ahead without any second looks (group think). Unless / until another vision is put forth suggesting other ways to use the land available there won't be much dissent. After looking at your post, I envisioned an open-ended stadium on both ends with the seating going no further than the end-zones. The home team would be on the west side because there is more room, and even more room is made available if that out of date field house, located west of the south end-zone in your post, is finally done away with. Space would also be made available to the south-east that could be used for a practice bubble, retention pond or any other need. I understand the concerns about the issues with power lines / lattices, but I'm not sure how big of an issue that is as long as a structure isn't built on or too close to the easement. Those power lines run all the way to right, due east, through the entire parking lot you see in your post, and the rest of the campus. So, it doesn't appear Center Point Energy has too much of a problem with it.
 
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bjnt922 said:
I dont think there's even enough space to expand Durley even if we removed the parking lot from the rec center. And besides it's hard enough to find parking on campus. So why take away more options. USC doesn't play it's home games on campus and they get good attendance. When we start winning our attendance will pick up.
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That's not exactly accurate.The Coliseum is right across the street from USC's campus.
 
LAW DAWG said:
I think that has more to do with the lack of alternatives proposed, and the tendency for ideas and projects to move full steam ahead without any second looks (group think). Unless / until another vision is put forth suggesting other ways to use the land available there won't be much dissent. After looking at your post, I envisioned an open-ended stadium on both ends with the seating going no further than the end-zones. The home team would be on the west side because there is more room, and even more room is made available if that out of date field house, located west of the south end-zone in your post, is finally done away with. Space would also be made available to the south-east that could be used for a bubble or anything else. I understand the concerns about the issues with power lines / lattices, but I'm not sure how big of an issue that is as long as a structure isn't built on or too close to the easement. Those power lines run all the way to right, due east, through the entire parking lot you see in your post, and the rest of the campus. So, it doesn't appear Center Point Energy has too much of a problem with it.
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I even recommended that TSU could relocate the road/pedestrian walkway, but that doesn't appear to be a popular idea with a lot of TSU folks. What I'm posting are just illustrations of what could be done to make room for progress and road/pedestrian walkways are always being relocated to make room for future growth.

The illustration below is approximately 700 ft. of road/pedestrian walkway relocation:

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My hometown completely vacated and rededicated a 4-lane highway (3rd Street) as commercial property so that the hospital (Rapides Regional) could buy it and expand its facilities to the south. The hospital no longer has to build bridges across 3rd Street to connect their facilities.

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JAG89 said:
I even recommended that TSU could relocate the road/pedestrian walkway, but that doesn't appear to be a popular idea with a lot of TSU folks. What I'm posting are just illustrations of what could be done to make room for progress and road/pedestrian walkways are always being relocated to make room for future growth.

The illustration below is approximately 700 ft. of road/pedestrian walkway relocation:

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My hometown completely vacated and rededicated a 4-lane highway (3rd Street) as commercial property so that the hospital (Rapides Regional) could buy it and expand its facilities to the south. The hospital no longer has to build bridges across 3rd Street to connect their facilities.

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JAG89,

I'm going to go out on a limb by saying I honestly don't believe the scenario you laid out has ever been considered. Die-hard TSU traditionalist, you can count me as one of them, don't except change easily. Given the option, I would really like to see if we're willing to make that small of an adjustment to make a giant leap forward. Again, thanks for taking the time out to post on an issue that is ours. It really is appreciated, and has opened my eyes to an alternative possibility.
 
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C-LeB28 said:
No. If we had our druthers, we'd all prefer the traditional on campus stadium. Nothing like it.
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I guess it's kind of like my late great-aunt who was one of the four founding members of the Southern University Alumni Chapter in Los Angeles, CA. I still remember her telling me how much things have changed on campus since the time she graduated back in the 50's and how they had to clear their own path through the bushes along the bluff just to see the river. It was almost like she was complaining that the university cleared those bushes along the bluff and installed concrete circular picnic tables for students to sit somewhere and enjoy the river view. Southern University Alumni Chapter in Los Angeles, CA is one of SU's largest and most vocal alumni chapters outside of Louisiana and Texas.
 
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C-LeB28 said:
We have room for it where the practice field is (between H&PE and the Rec Center) but there was discussion for a softball field there. I'd love for us to have the land Pilgrim sits on (sorry Ms. Scales).
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This is something that I feel should get done. That church can be relocated to another location. That being said, there are some historian of that church that would pitch a fit if that happened.

I'll comment on the Cuney Homes as well, it is a DAMN shame that it can't be touched. It's NOT displacement BUT relocating that site somewhere else so that TSU can continue to expand.
 
JAG89 said:
I guess it's kind of like my late great-aunt who was one of the four founding members of the Southern University Alumni Chapter in Los Angeles, CA. I still remember her telling me how much things have changed on campus since the time she graduated back in the 50's and how they had to clear their own path through the bushes along the bluff just to see the river. It was almost like she was complaining that the university cleared those bushes along the bluff and installed concrete circular picnic tables for students to sit somewhere and enjoy the river view. Southern University Alumni Chapter in Los Angeles, CA is one of SU's largest and most vocal alumni chapters outside of Louisiana and Texas.
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That's sums it up.
 
JAG89 said:
I guess it's kind of like my late great-aunt who was one of the four founding members of the Southern University Alumni Chapter in Los Angeles, CA. I still remember her telling me how much things have changed on campus since the time she graduated back in the 50's and how they had to clear their own path through the bushes along the bluff just to see the river. It was almost like she was complaining that the university cleared those bushes along the bluff and installed concrete circular picnic tables for students to sit somewhere and enjoy the river view. Southern University Alumni Chapter in Los Angeles, CA is one of SU's largest and most vocal alumni chapters outside of Louisiana and Texas.
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Texas Southern has made dramatic campus upgrades since I graduated (1996) and will continue in the next 20 years.
 
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