THE END TIMES PROPHECY!


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Dr H.. said:
RB

Why are you having an obsession with Murray and the Shepard?s Chapel? He is not revealing anything that God has not placed in the Bible. It?s nothing you can?t learn or understand if you ?study?

Just asking
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I'm not obsessed with Pastor Murray. I'm obsessed with studying the word chapter by chapter and verse by verse. I don't know many preachers that teach the word of God like this and I'm hooked on God's words. Its a joy to know what Satan will do on earth when him and his demonic angels are kicked out of heaven and on to earth. I don't know too many pastors that are warning Christians of Satan's plan on this earth. His plan is to play Jesus and rob souls. This is the devil we are talking about people. He will lie, steal, and kill to get the job done. God has told us what Satan will do and its up to you to believe it or not. I say again, its on you and either you will believe that in which God has stated or not. God never leaves His people hanging and he always made sure someone was teaching the truth on earth. God is warning us to be careful because its going down and He has "FORETOLD" us "ALL THINGS." I don't need an interpreter to figure out the meaning of " FORETOLD US ALL THINGS." God does not lie and He states that the whole world will go whoring after Satan thinking he is Jesus, except for God's elect. Satan is twisted in the mind and he will do anything to lead God's people astray. If you know the truth you have nothing to worry about......believe it. Take heed to warning below!

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Dr H,

The majority of Christians don't know whats about to go down and most of them think they're going to be raptured away. They have been lead astray and Satan will play on that when he arrives on this earth. This is the negative part of God's plan. This is the reason Christ is coming back with a rod of iron/correction. Christ is going to correct the church because the church listened to man instead of God and allowed man to lead them in worshiping the devil.....that simple. There's only a small few that will not listen to man but listen to God. God is warning us but we have to humble ourselves and listen.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
Its a joy to know what Satan will do on earth when him and his demonic angels are kicked out of heaven and on to earth.
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WOE! Mr. Royal Blue

This view is not shared by GOD. God is a Just God and His righteousness requires Justice. However, God finds no joy in sin or the punishment of sin. God also warns us not to rejoice in the wrath of others:

Proverbs 17:5

  • KJV:Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished.
  • Living Bible: Mocking the poor is mocking the God who made them. He will punish those who rejoice at others' misfortunes.

Be careful, my brother, that you are not sweep away by Satan's tricks. :angry:Satan is deceitful!:angry:

1 Corinthians 10:12. Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
 
RB

No ?homeboy? you are hallucinating on some hard crack. The more I read your comments, the more I am convinced ?something? is wrong with you (seriously).

For starters, you have not realized that Satan (with his coherts) is already here and working in the minds / heart of individuals. That?s why we have so much evil in the world. If he was not here the presence of evil would not exist.

That?s why Christ said ?

"I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightening." Luke 10:18

Satan was on earth when he initially revolted against God. Isaiah 14:13:

"For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: . .

Please explain how could he ?ascend? into heaven, if he was / is already there?

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. "

?there was? "was cast" past tense, something that has already happened. He was cast out into the earth.

Since he was cast into the earth, where else could he be. Yes, he have access to heaven. But, his dwelling place is here on earth. Thats like a landlord evicting someone tha allowing them to remain in the house.

How could Satan ?enter into the serpent? is he was not here in the Garden of Eden.

Second to say:

Its a joy to know what Satan will do on earth when him and his demonic angels are kicked out of heaven and on to earth.
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Christ is going to correct the church because the church listened to man instead of God and allowed man to lead them in worshiping the devil.....that simple.

Correct the church for what purpose (give me book, scripture and verse). When Christ returns that the end of it. There are no corrections. You will stand before the Great White Throne or the Judgment Seat of Christ.

I don't know too many pastors that are warning Christians of Satan's plan on this earth. His plan is to play Jesus and rob souls.

I asked you before to give me book, chapter and verse about Satan playing Jesus as of today you have failed to provide me with the information.
 
Dr H.. said:
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I don't know too many pastors that are warning Christians of Satan's plan on this earth. His plan is to play Jesus and rob souls.

I asked you before to give me book, chapter and verse about Satan playing Jesus as of today you have failed to provide me with the information.
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Farbeit from me to speak for RB, but the general reference would be:

Matt 24:21 - 24
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

I have been wrong before and will be again.
 
dacontinent said:
Farbeit from me to speak for RB, but the general reference would be:

Matt 24:21 - 24
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

I have been wrong before and will be again.
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I've posted this verse several times. God is telling us this "WILL" happen and its going to go down exactly as he states. I know this is new however there is no excuse if its written and the warning has been given. I guess another way of putting it is to stand by and "WATCH" because Christ instructed us to do so. I pray God will open the spiritual eyes of my Christian brothers and sisters. We have the victory! There is nothing to fear because God takes care of His own.
 
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I love it when God speaks.
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illinijag said:
WOE! Mr. Royal Blue

This view is not shared by GOD. God is a Just God and His righteousness requires Justice. However, God finds no joy in sin or the punishment of sin. God also warns us not to rejoice in the wrath of others:
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I'm not saying its a joy to see Satan punish people. You misunderstood but I will explain. Its a joy to know the truth. I say again, its a joy to know God has told us what Satan will do to the world. By God giving us Satan's agenda, we know what to look out for........that simple. You can't be deceived if you know the truth and what to watch for. We have the victory!
 
dac

I understand what RB is saying, but my point what his is posting is being fulfilled as I make this comment. People are being deceived, misguided, worshipping Satan, falling away from the church, doing all of those things he has posted. They were doing these things during the first century church. Was it Paul that talked about Alexander the Coppersmith, about leaving the faith.

He is thinking as if these events are in the future.

Satan has been cast down to the earth; he was here in the Garden of Eden, in the book of Job. Satan and his demonic spirits are right here on earth planting ideas in individuals mind to walk contrary to Gods word.

I asked him for book, chapter and verse on comments that are not in accordance with God?s word. Don?t make a comment unless they can be supported by God?s word. To say the following is insane.

Christ is going to correct the church because the church listened to man instead of God and allowed man to lead them in worshiping the devil...that simple

Its a joy to know what Satan will do on earth when him and his demonic angels are kicked out of heaven and on to earth.

Then he attempted to clean it up, no he said what he said (period)

They have been lead astray and Satan will play on that when he arrives on this earth.

Satan is here and it?s supported by the word ? he tempted Jesus, he very well could not have done it if he was in heaves. Because he is not omnipresence as is God. He can be in one place at a time.

Rev. 12:9 ? he was cast (past tense ? not future tense)

What?s the other one ? Satan will play the role of Christ. Or the scriptures that talk about discipline a brother. But he say is worship.

So you mean to tell me and others that this make sense?


Matthew 24:

"This entire paragraph [vv. 15-22] relates only to Jews, for no Christian believer would worry about breaking a Sabbath law." When did Christians start worshipping on the Sabbath.

Please stop finding one verse without reading the entire chapter.
 
Dr H.. said:
No ?homeboy? you are hallucinating on some hard crack. The more I read your comments, the more I am convinced ?something? is wrong with you (seriously).
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Now, you know I don't care what people think of me. I'm going to continue sounding the alarm and those who choose to follow truth will follow. Why is Jesus coming to this earth to make war? Why is Christ returning with an army? Why is Jesus coming back with fierceness and wrath of Almighty God? Why is Jesus going to smite the nations?

Isa 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Isa 13:11 And I will punish the world for [their] evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
 
Revelation 19:11 "And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse; and He That sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war."

Revelation 19:12 "His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He Himself.

Revelation 19:13 "And He was clothed with a vesture dippend in blood: and His name is called "The Word of God."

Revelation 19:14 "And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean."

Revelation 19:15 "And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God."

Revelation 19:16 "And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."
Isa 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
 
I hope everyone can identify the subject of this chapter. The subject is about Christ returning and Paul is going to go into great detail explaining what will happen in chronological order. All you have to do is give ear to what Paul is going to thoroughly explain concerning what will happen before Christ return. Notice that Paul gives warning to "Let no man deceive you by any means:"
 Paul is telling us not to let man deceive you because the day of Christ returning will not happen until Satan play God.

II Thessalonians 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,"

II Thessalonians 2:2 "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is [the Lord is just] at hand."

II Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come [it will not be], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition(Satan);"

II Thessalonians 2:4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

II Thessalonians 2:5 "Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?"

II Thessalonians 2:6 "And now ye know what withholdeth [that which restraineth to the end] that he might be revealed in his time [own season]."
 
Look at what God will do to those who believe not the love of the truth. God is going to help people believe a lie if they choose to believe it. I say again, God is going to help people believe a lie if they choose to believe a lie. Why? The answer is in verse 3 so there is no excuse for believing a lie. Take a close look at how Satan comes to this earth with his bag of tricks in verse 9. Paul states the world will have pleasure believing a lie in verse 12.

II Thessalonians 2:7 "For the mystery of iniquity [lawlessness] doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."

II Thessalonians 2:8 "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit [breath] of his mouth, and shall destroy [bring to naught] with the brightness [manifestation] of his coming:"

II Thessalonians 2:9 "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Sa'-tan with all power and signs and lying wonders,"

II Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness [deceit] of unrighteousness in [for] them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth,"

II Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion [send them a working of error], that they should believe a lie;"

II Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned [judged] who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

II Thessalonians 2:13 "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
 
Dr H.. said:
Matthew 24:

"This entire paragraph [vv. 15-22] relates only to Jews, for no Christian believer would worry about breaking a Sabbath law." When did Christians start worshipping on the Sabbath.
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Matthew 24:20. But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

To say that this passage and paragraph is only for the Jews, based on the word Sabbath, is to read more into this passage than the passage provides. This passage/ paragraph is synoptic and is also stated in Mark 13, absent the word Sabbath. So would you also say that the passage/paragraph in Mark 13 relates only to Jews Also?

I can agree that it would be difficult to escape to a perceived place of refuge in the cold of Winter and on A day (Jewish Sabbath) that provides many traveling restrictions. This Sabbath could mean both the Jewish Sabbath and the Christian Sabbath that is later to be established. Although most Christians do not limit their activities during our designated day of Worship, this was not always the case.

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Many who believe in the Pre-Tribulation rapture have concluded that the Whole Chapter (Matthew 24) has nothing to do with Christians (only Jews). To believe this, one must believe the Elects in Matthew 24 are not Christians.. To believe this, one must believe that the Disciples and followers that Jesus was talking to in Matthew 24 were not Christians. For Me to believe this, someone would have to make me believe that I am not one of God's Elect (such will never happen).
 



ROYAL BLUE said:
I'm not saying its a joy to see Satan punish people. You misunderstood but I will explain. Its a joy to know the truth. I say again, its a joy to know God has told us what Satan will do to the world. By God giving us Satan's agenda, we know what to look out for........that simple. You can't be deceived if you know the truth and what to watch for. We have the victory!
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I guess I was a little slow at understanding your words.

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Its a joy to know what Satan will do on earth when him and his demonic angels are kicked out of heaven and on to earth.
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There may be others like me, so you should probably select your words more carefully. It is a disservice to your efforts to be misunderstood.

Good Day and God Bless.
 
illinijag said:
I guess I was a little slow at understanding your words.



There may be others like me, so you should probably select your words more carefully. It is a disservice to your efforts to be misunderstood.

Good Day and God Bless.
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Yes, I should be more selective in my choice of words. God Bless!
 
Dr H.. said:
...Satan is here and it?s supported by the word ? he tempted Jesus, he very well could not have done it if he was in heaves. Because he is not omnipresence as is God. He can be in one place at a time.
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Simple enough


Dr H.. said:
Matthew 24:

"This entire paragraph [vv. 15-22] relates only to Jews, for no Christian believer would worry about breaking a Sabbath law." When did Christians start worshipping on the Sabbath.

Please stop finding one verse without reading the entire chapter.
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The Jews in the early Church were used to worshipping on the Sabbath. It was a bone of contention with Gentile believers that was addressed in the epistles. There are hundreds of thousands of Christians in the USA who worship on the Sabbath. So, Christians have done so for as long as there have been Christians.

While the entire gospel of Matthew was written to relate to the Jew, I have a little trouble understanding how 24:15-22 relates ONLY to Jews in the context of the rest of the chapter. Perhaps you can help me with that.
 
dac


Your point is well taken. However, Christians are not commanded to worship on the Sabbath. And if you look at the Jews since the days of Christ, they then and a majority have rejected him as the Messiah. I know several Jews that as of this day is still banking on Abraham (Jewish heritage) as their road to salvation. That?s why Paul corrected them in Romans 3.

Can we use this as an application today as Christians (Spiritual Jew) Yes / maybe?

I think sometime we look at the coming of the ?Antichrist? as a future event. But consider the following

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:18

John said, many little antichrists, people who exalt themselves against God, had arisen. John saw this as a confirmation that the manifestation of the Antichrist was not far away. Antichrists are those who oppose Jesus Christ and His teachings, not just people who profess to be the Messiah.

Question: Is that not happening today as we live? Preachers who preach false doctrine are a type of antichrist. Why, they have gone against the teaching of Jesus.


Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist that denieth the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22

The Jews who rejected Jesus as the Messiah and other false teachers to whom John alluded elsewhere, to include the Gnostics who believed that anything material was sinful and therefore Jesus could not have been God's Son.

The Docetists taught that Jesus was not truly a man and therefore not our Savior.

The Cerinthus believed that Jesus was not fully God but that God only came upon Him at His baptism and departed from Him before His crucifixion. These false teachers claimed to have the truth from God. However, John pointed out that since the Son and the Father are one, a person couldn?t deny the Son without denying the Father as well (Matt. 10:32-33; Mark 8:38; John 12:44-45; 14:10-11).
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Anyone who claims to know God, but disobeys his orders, is 'a' liar (2:4); but the person who denies that Jesus is the Christ must be regarded as the antichrist. Which means if a person say they know Christ and continue to disobey Him. That person is a liar and can be regarded as an antichrist, not only in the first century but also in the 21st century and beyond.

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1 John 4:3

John said ?He is already in the world? Living and breathing during the days of John. There are many religions that practice ?Antichristism? [if there is such a word]. All individuals has to do is study other religions and their practices. Notice [spirit] that?s man?s spirit.


For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 1:7

Question: Has this not been happening? There are many individuals that ?say? Christ did not come in the flesh? not only by verbalization, but also by their life style. Our lifestyle serves as a confirmation to the obedience of the Gospel. That?s why so may ?so called Christians? are and will stand before the Great White Throne of God.

Were there individuals denying Christ came in the flesh during the times of the Apostles? Yes. So therefore, this is nothing new and a continuation of something that Lucifer started the day he opposed God.

With all of that documented in the word, how could individuals continue to believe that the coming of the ?antichrist? is a future event. How can one continue to say that ?when Satan come?

Consider you had only two groups "Jews and Gentiles" Matthew wrote to the "Jews" not to Christians / the Church. Why, because the church was sill in the future " Jesus said upon this rock I wll build {my} church. Christanity, did not start until the Book of Acts.
 
Pay close attention to how Satan will rob souls. The power Satan will have will come from God. God will allow Satan to make war against Christians. The reason the majority of Christians will be taken in by Satan is because of the miracles he will perform for the entire world to see. This has never happened in the sight of men and although many claim to be Christ, they never performed miracles in the sight of men, nor did they cause the whole world to worship them as messiah. God's elect will not be deceived because scripture states "if it were possible", therefore its not possible. God is just letting us know how powerful and convincing Satan will be to the world. Notice that scripture states the power is "GIVEN" to Satan to put on a show in the sight of men. Do you remember how Adam, Eve, Job, and Christ were tested by Satan? Do you remember the three Hebrew boys in the fiery furnace. God knew what was going on and He could have put a stop to it at anytime. God allowed these things to happen to test His people. The same shall happen to the world at the same time and its up to you to decide who you shall believe. All you have to do is follow scripture closely and take heed to the warning. God is telling us exactly what will happen and the only way you can be deceived is by "ALLOWING" yourself to be deceived. Settle it in your minds and be not shaken to the doctrine of men, but listen to God and stay the course. Pay very close attention to verse 11 because this verse is describing Satan. Notice that scripture states he looks like a "LAMB" but talks like a "DRAGON." In verse 14 Paul tells us not to be surprised that Satan transforms himself into an angel of light. In other words this is nothing new and you should already be aware of this.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

2Cr 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

It's Satan(666) and a blind man can see this.
 
Dr H.. said:
dac
...John said, many little antichrists, people who exalt themselves against God, had arisen. John saw this as a confirmation that the manifestation of the Antichrist was not far away. Antichrists are those who oppose Jesus Christ and His teachings, not just people who profess to be the Messiah.

Question: Is that not happening today as we live? Preachers who preach false doctrine are a type of antichrist. Why, they have gone against the teaching of Jesus.
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And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1 John 4:3

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With all of that documented in the word, how could individuals continue to believe that the coming of the ?antichrist? is a future event. How can one continue to say that ?when Satan come?

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I believe you identified the dichotomy within your post:

antichrist /= Antichrist​

The spirit that is antichrist preceeds the manifestation of the personified Antichrist in human form. In your post you said
Dr H.. said:
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John saw this as a confirmation that the manifestation of the Antichrist was not far away.
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"Far away" in this instance is akin to "the last days", which we have been in since the ascension of Christ.

So, basically the position of the Antichrist (not antichrist) being future has to do with fact that he (single human manifestation) has not yet been revealed to the world.
 
Why is Christ coming to this earth to make war and against who? The answer is in Rev 13:7. Satan and his handsome demonic angels are coming to make war against the saints and Christ will come with his handsome army and make war against Satan for playing God and deceiving the whole world. How will Christians and the world feel when they realize they worshiped the wrong Christ?

Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaO7JmsoKO4&feature=related (VIDEO)
 
dacontinent said:
I believe you identified the dichotomy within your post:

antichrist /= Antichrist​

The spirit that is antichrist preceeds the manifestation of the personified Antichrist in human form. In your post you said

Originally Posted by Dr H..
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John saw this as a confirmation that the manifestation of the Antichrist was not far away.
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"Far away" in this instance is akin to "the last days", which we have been in since the ascension of Christ.

So, basically the position of the Antichrist (not antichrist) being future has to do with fact that he (single human manifestation) has not yet been revealed to the world.
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dacontinent

You have earned the Crystal award, in that you have made things ?Crystal Clear?. This seems to be a good example of reading two different pages from the same book. We all must conclude that the antichrist is here, but the Antichrist (single human manifestation) is yet to come.

We are admonished to be on the lookout for Both, for if we only make preparations and be on the lookout for the Antichrist, we might just allow ourselves to be deceived by the antichrist. Given such, there is much value in the concerns of Both (Mr. Royal Blue and the good Dr. H...), as Christians we must remain vigilant.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
 
I don't know about yall, but I don't know of any human being ever having the power to make fire come from heaven in the sight of men on earth, and deceived those on the earth by the miracles he performed. All I can say is when Lucifer and his angels arrive you will certainly know it because the media will broadcast it for the world to see. What will they be saying?

Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.

Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.

Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
 
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