No man should have to go through this much drama just to be a father..................


The Founder said:
My sons mom tried to play me telling him that I don't give anything until I told him the amount and showed him. He was like so that's why momma getting her hair done every week and just got a new truck.

I'm like yea that shit ends in 20 months. My fiancé can't stand her ass though.
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Hell, I didn’t have to tell my daughter she already knew. Her mother had kids for two other men (I was the middle fool) and she knew none of their daddies where paying. One stayed in jail all the time and the other one died. She knew I was the only one paying.

My daughter never tried that but her mother used to pull some janky azz shyt like that. One day she tried to tell me my daughter was hungry and wanted me to buy a large pizza. I knew she wanted that large pizza to feed those other kids but I was going to do it anyway because to this day I can’t stand to see hungry kids. But my daughter was standing behind her shaking her head saying “no I’m not.” Lol Every time my daughter would ask me for something I knew her mother pushed her up to it. Sometimes I would give her what she ask because the kids are the biggest victim in this situation and you can’t blame them for what adults f’d up. But I had no problem telling her no if I could not do it.

Also, my wife and my daughter’s mother didn’t get along either. I used to do my best to keep to the two worlds separate. That kept a lot of baby mama drama down. When my daughter’s mother got married, I didn’t even go inside their house even though I might have been paying the note. Because when I stop paying child support they lost the house. lol
 
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The Founder said:
When we get married she going to petition the court to have his parental rights removed so that I can adopt him.
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Make sure that is something you want to do. I wish you the best with your lady. Although, if it doesn't work out you will pay child support for that child. You don't have to legally adopt the child to raise it in your home.

One of my homies is going through this now. Boy was 6 they stayed married 5 years. The boy is almost 12 my homie has to pay child support for his adopted child as if he fathered him.
 
jag4life said:
Yeah the health insurance got me one year too. My son was already covered under his mother's plan (her suggestion). Got a new job mid-year and HR and the state of Texas said I was required to have him on my insurance regardless. Would have had to hire a lawyer and go to court to change it. That cost would have been higher than just keeping the insurance for the last half of the year. When open enrollment came I dropped it. If I get a different job it will come up again.
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Proof of coverage from the mothers insurance is all that is required. The law only requires the child be covered not double covered. The proof of coverage form can easily be obtained from any insurance provider. My perspective is coming from TX law.
 
Da Sleeper said:
Proof of coverage from the mothers insurance is all that is required. The law only requires the child be covered not double covered. The proof of coverage form can easily be obtained from any insurance provider. My perspective is coming from TX law.
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Dude I sent all of that to the CS folks and his mom even sent info directly and made calls. Maybe the CS folks I dealt with didn't know the law or their policies.
 
The Founder said:
The best judge in a child support case to go in front of is a woman if you are a man and doing the right things.
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That is no guarantee. I was and still am doing all the right things, I had a white female judge and my attorney and I still don't know why she decided the way she did. The only good this is that Alabama has specific rules and a formula for figuring out child support and unlike most states it ends at the age of 19.
 
JAG89 said:
The founder of Popeye's Chicken and Copeland's Restaurants Al Copeland paid a very small amount in child support payment ($50,000 per year) and he was worth millions, whereas I knew Black fathers in Louisiana barely making over $50k per year and they were paying over $10k per year.
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I read through this whole thread and all I could think was these dudes need some better lawyers. I read where one mother gave a man hell with her free lawyer. You guys need to go find the lawyer Mr. Copeland had. I promise you in child support court just like any other the baddest lawyer wins. It ain't cheap but how much is peace of mind worth? Shidddd I hap P.I.'s and everything. My lawyer laid the smack down in court and it was a wrap. Cost me my whole profit sharing check that year plus a little but the peace of mind was well worth it.

My son's mom was paranoid someone was following her until my soon aged out. she jokes about it now...but her azz was skerd back then.
 
jag4life said:
Dude I sent all of that to the CS folks and his mom even sent info directly and made calls. Maybe the CS folks I dealt with didn't know the law or their policies.
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It happens I know, i have a relative that works for TX AG office in Ft. Worth. They know it's fugged up for the dads sometimes. More men need to get lawyers and go to court.
 
Da Sleeper said:
It happens I know, i have a relative that works for TX AG office in Ft. Worth. They know it's fugged up for the dads sometimes. More men need to get lawyers and go to court.
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That’s one thing child support taught me. Never go in a court room without a lawyer even if it’s for a traffic ticket. They treat you better when your lawyer is doing the talking.
 
jag4life said:
Dude I sent all of that to the CS folks and his mom even sent info directly and made calls. Maybe the CS folks I dealt with didn't know the law or their policies.
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The exact same thing happened to me. My daughter had insurance on her step-dad’s insurance and they still force me to get it. I was on my wife insurance at the time so for a while I was insured twice. Also, I won’t say they don’t know the policies, but they get a kick out of harassing the hell out you if they can.
 
bigmanofds said:
The exact same thing happened to me. My daughter had insurance on her step-dad’s insurance and they still force me to get it. I was on my wife insurance at the time so for a while I was insured twice. Also, I won’t say they don’t know the policies, but they get a kick out of harassing the hell out you if they can.
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If you guys are still in the child support system or know someone who is I suggestyou find a local father's rights child support/advocates group and join. They have lawyers who help at very low rates. As well as other resources to help men work the system. It's all about knowledge.

Never walk into a court room to face a lawyer and judge that see each other every day and are probabaly friends without legal representation.
 
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bigmanofds said:
Hell, I didn’t have to tell my daughter she already knew. Her mother had kids for two other men (I was the middle fool) and she knew none of their daddies where paying. One stayed in jail all the time and the other one died. She knew I was the only one paying.

My daughter never tried that but her mother used to pull some janky azz shyt like that. One day she tried to tell me my daughter was hungry and wanted me to buy a large pizza. I knew she wanted that large pizza to feed those other kids but I was going to do it anyway because to this day I can’t stand to see hungry kids. But my daughter was standing behind her shaking her head saying “no I’m not.” Lol Every time my daughter would ask me for something I knew her mother pushed her up to it. Sometimes I would give her what she ask because the kids are the biggest victim in this situation and you can’t blame them for what adults f’d up. But I had no problem telling her no if I could not do it.

Also, my wife and my daughter’s mother didn’t get along either. I used to do my best to keep to the two worlds separate. That kept a lot of baby mama drama down. When my daughter’s mother got married, I didn’t even go inside their house even though I might have been paying the note. Because when I stop paying child support they lost the house. lol
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Bruh....

I took my son to band camp. I put on his reloadable visa $300. Well we get to Lafayette and I had some cash so I gave him some. I live by a rule if you don't have your wallet no money. Well he didn't have it. I asked where his card was and he said his mom had it. I told him it was for him only and it was $300 on it. He tells me that his mother withdrew all the money and bought his supplies then gave him $80.

My fiance just shook her head.

My son's mother is non-existent to me. So whatever she does I just count down the months.

so that following Sunday my son calls me and ask me to put $20 on his card. I respond "doesn't your mother have the card." He says yes and I say well what do you need it for? He says don't worry about it.

I then realize Lake Charles is two hours from Baton Rouge and his damn momma wanted fucking gas money!!!!
 
Da Sleeper said:
Make sure that is something you want to do. I wish you the best with your lady. Although, if it doesn't work out you will pay child support for that child. You don't have to legally adopt the child to raise it in your home.

One of my homies is going through this now. Boy was 6 they stayed married 5 years. The boy is almost 12 my homie has to pay child support for his adopted child as if he fathered him.
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It is because his dad provides no structure and I don't want that nicca trying to manage or say anything about what goes on in my house. Dude got 3 kids by two different women, plus 2 possibles where the State of Texas keeps serving him papers, and his current woman has 3 kids pregnant. My fiance can't stand his ass. When we got engaged that nicca was at my cousin's house (he didn't know that was my cousin) crying.....my kinfolk video taped it and texted it to me. I sent it to my fiance and she forwarded it to him. LMAO!!!!
 
Da Sleeper said:
If you guys are still in the child support system or know someone who is I suggestyou find a local father's rights child support/advocates group and join. They have lawyers who help at very low rates. As well as other resources to help men work the system. It's all about knowledge.

Never walk into a court room to face a lawyer and judge that see each other every day and are probabaly friends without legal representation.
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Exactly...my lawyer is an Asst. DA that handles child support issues up here. Best thing ever happened.
 
The Founder said:
Bruh....


so that following Sunday my son calls me and ask me to put $20 on his card. I respond "doesn't your mother have the card." He says yes and I say well what do you need it for? He says don't worry about it.

I then realize Lake Charles is two hours from Baton Rouge and his damn momma wanted fucking gas money!!!!
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The one thing I can say about child support that helps the father. Once the mother is out of the picture, the father and the child’s relationship will be stronger when the child is an adult. No matter what the mother says about the father, the child can’t say you didn’t do anything for them and those child support payments are documented proof of it. It will really be in their minds once they have kids of their own.
 
bigmanofds said:
The one thing I can say about child support that helps the father. Once the mother is out of the picture, the father and the child’s relationship will be stronger when the child is an adult. No matter what the mother says about the father, the child can’t say you didn’t do anything for them and those child support payments are documented proof of it. It will really be in their minds once they have kids of their own.
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Yup. What these crazy mothers don't realize is that this sets an impression on their sons. My son's mother has 3 other sons and karma is a bitch. She has no girls.
 
The Founder said:
Yup. What these crazy mothers don't realize is that this sets an impression on their sons. My son's mother has 3 other sons and karma is a bitch. She has no girls.
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I've seen single parent diva mothers with diva sons just like them. I knew this woman in Lafayette, LA. She was the ultimate Diva and was proud of it, but she didn't realize her son was following in her footsteps as a Diva too.
 
JAG89 said:
I've seen single parent diva mothers with diva sons just like them. I knew this woman in Lafayette, LA. She was the ultimate Diva and was proud of it, but she didn't realize her son was following in her footsteps as a Diva too.
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Diva Male = Flamboyant Gay Man to me....LOL
 
The Founder said:
Bruh....

I took my son to band camp. I put on his reloadable visa $300. Well we get to Lafayette and I had some cash so I gave him some. I live by a rule if you don't have your wallet no money. Well he didn't have it. I asked where his card was and he said his mom had it. I told him it was for him only and it was $300 on it. He tells me that his mother withdrew all the money and bought his supplies then gave him $80.

My fiance just shook her head.

My son's mother is non-existent to me. So whatever she does I just count down the months.

so that following Sunday my son calls me and ask me to put $20 on his card. I respond "doesn't your mother have the card." He says yes and I say well what do you need it for? He says don't worry about it.

I then realize Lake Charles is two hours from Baton Rouge and his damn momma wanted fucking gas money!!!!
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That's some lousy shat right there man. smh

Lake Charles you say? You from there too Founder? That's my hometown. And your child must go to Washington-Marion. They have the only show style program there at the moment.
 
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