No man should have to go through this much drama just to be a father..................


bigmanofds said:
You do know that 18 don't mean a thing if the child is in school. In fact, if the child goes to college, you will still have to pay I think until age 26. I paid until my daughter was almost 20. Only reason it stopped because she became pregnant.
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JAG89 said:
What state??? Because it is different in each state.
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Louisiana Revised Statute 9:309(C)

Basically both parents would have to go back to court and justify it.

Child support must be paid until the child is 18 years old. According to Louisiana Revised Statute 9:309(C), if the child is enrolled in college, is not married and is still the custodial parent's dependant, a court can require child support to continue beyond age 18. Additionally, if a child is disabled, support can be required until the child is age 22.

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The magic word is CAN.
 
This is interesting....

https://legis.la.gov/Legis/Law.aspx?d=107388


§315.22. Termination of child support upon majority or emancipation; exceptions

A. When there is a child support award in a specific amount per child, the award for each child shall terminate automatically without any action by the obligor upon each child's attaining the age of majority, or upon emancipation relieving the child of the disabilities attached to minority.

B. When there is a child support award in globo for two or more children, the award shall terminate automatically and without any action by the obligor when the youngest child for whose benefit the award was made attains the age of majority or is emancipated relieving the child of the disabilities attached to minority.

C. An award of child support continues with respect to any unmarried child who attains the age of majority, or to a child who is emancipated relieving the child of the disabilities attached to minority, as long as the child is a full-time student in good standing in a secondary school or its equivalent, has not attained the age of nineteen, and is dependent upon either parent. Either the primary domiciliary parent or the major or emancipated child is the proper party to enforce an award of child support pursuant to this Subsection.

D. An award of child support continues with respect to any child who has a developmental disability, as defined in R.S. 28:451.2, until he attains the age of twenty-two, as long as the child is a full-time student in a secondary school. The primary domiciliary parent or legal guardian is the proper party to enforce an award of child support pursuant to this Subsection.

NOTE: Subsection E as enacted by Acts 2015, No. 379, §§1, 3, eff. Aug. 1, 2015.

E.(1) An award of child support continues or shall be set with respect to any unmarried child who, whether institutionalized or not, is incapable of self-support and requires substantial care and personal supervision because of an intellectual or physical disability that is manifested before the child attains the age of majority. A disability under this Subsection shall not include substance abuse or addiction.

(2) An action under this Subsection may be filed regardless of the age of the child.

(3) Either the major child or his tutor or curator is the proper party to file an action to establish, modify, or enforce an award of child support pursuant to this Subsection.

(4) Except as otherwise provided in this Subsection, the substantive and procedural rights and remedies in an action relating to the establishment, modification, or enforcement of child support orders for minor children apply to an action filed, and to an award of, child support rendered under this Subsection.

(5) The court shall consider the eligibility of the child for public benefits and services and may make orders necessary to promote the best interest of the child, including ordering the creation of a trust and placing the award in trust.

(6) When the Department of Children and Family Services is providing support enforcement services, those services will continue under this Subsection only if the major child or his tutor or curator obtains and submits to the Department, before the child attains the age of majority, a judgment ordering the continuation of support for the child.

Acts 1993, No. 261, §7, eff. Jan. 1, 1994; Acts 2001, No. 408, §1; Acts 2001, No. 1082, §1; Acts 2015, No. 379, §1, eff. Aug. 1, 2016.

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So regardless child support ends at 19 in Louisiana unless there is a disability.
 



The Founder said:
This is interesting....

https://legis.la.gov/Legis/Law.aspx?d=107388


§315.22. Termination of child support upon majority or emancipation; exceptions

A. When there is a child support award in a specific amount per child, the award for each child shall terminate automatically without any action by the obligor upon each child's attaining the age of majority, or upon emancipation relieving the child of the disabilities attached to minority.

B. When there is a child support award in globo for two or more children, the award shall terminate automatically and without any action by the obligor when the youngest child for whose benefit the award was made attains the age of majority or is emancipated relieving the child of the disabilities attached to minority.

C. An award of child support continues with respect to any unmarried child who attains the age of majority, or to a child who is emancipated relieving the child of the disabilities attached to minority, as long as the child is a full-time student in good standing in a secondary school or its equivalent, has not attained the age of nineteen, and is dependent upon either parent. Either the primary domiciliary parent or the major or emancipated child is the proper party to enforce an award of child support pursuant to this Subsection.

D. An award of child support continues with respect to any child who has a developmental disability, as defined in R.S. 28:451.2, until he attains the age of twenty-two, as long as the child is a full-time student in a secondary school. The primary domiciliary parent or legal guardian is the proper party to enforce an award of child support pursuant to this Subsection.

NOTE: Subsection E as enacted by Acts 2015, No. 379, §§1, 3, eff. Aug. 1, 2015.

E.(1) An award of child support continues or shall be set with respect to any unmarried child who, whether institutionalized or not, is incapable of self-support and requires substantial care and personal supervision because of an intellectual or physical disability that is manifested before the child attains the age of majority. A disability under this Subsection shall not include substance abuse or addiction.

(2) An action under this Subsection may be filed regardless of the age of the child.

(3) Either the major child or his tutor or curator is the proper party to file an action to establish, modify, or enforce an award of child support pursuant to this Subsection.

(4) Except as otherwise provided in this Subsection, the substantive and procedural rights and remedies in an action relating to the establishment, modification, or enforcement of child support orders for minor children apply to an action filed, and to an award of, child support rendered under this Subsection.

(5) The court shall consider the eligibility of the child for public benefits and services and may make orders necessary to promote the best interest of the child, including ordering the creation of a trust and placing the award in trust.

(6) When the Department of Children and Family Services is providing support enforcement services, those services will continue under this Subsection only if the major child or his tutor or curator obtains and submits to the Department, before the child attains the age of majority, a judgment ordering the continuation of support for the child.

Acts 1993, No. 261, §7, eff. Jan. 1, 1994; Acts 2001, No. 408, §1; Acts 2001, No. 1082, §1; Acts 2015, No. 379, §1, eff. Aug. 1, 2016.

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So regardless child support ends at 19 in Louisiana unless there is a disability.
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Louisiana is too much of a red state to allow anything beyond 18.
 
bigmanofds said:
You do know that 18 don't mean a thing if the child is in school. In fact, if the child goes to college, you will still have to pay I think until age 26. I paid until my daughter was almost 20. Only reason it stopped because she became pregnant.
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I guess they determine that on a case by case basis.
My brother just made his final payment this past December. He initially thought his final payment was January 2015 (when his son turned 18). The payments stopped for two months, then the mother sent in an extension request because my nephew is still in high school. He ended up having to pay 1 more year (to the 19th birthday). Final payment just made December 2015, regardless if nephew attends college or not. She wanted to get another extension until May when my nephew finishes high school but it was denied. Judge won't grant any further request due to mother requesting extensions and increases over the year, and half the time not showing up in court. This is in the state of Louisiana.
 
The Founder said:
Yup and I personally believe before they allow a child to get it beyond 18 a judge would review how much has been paid and where it has gone.
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The way I see it, if the dad is not there, the State of Louisiana would have to continue to provide the mother a check beyond her children's 19 birthday and the way Louisiana sees it, why continue supporting some mother to take care of grown children who are capable of working.
 
The Founder said:
I can believe it.

what bothers me is these women treat the dude who is not paying child support with all types of respect. These men can come over anytime...lay up...etc.... The cats who are abiding by the law getting treated like shit. All I want is to spend time with my son without his damn momma calling every 15 minutes asking what he is doing.
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You said it best here and when you said they get mad at the cat for moving on. Now I personally have a good baby mama hadn't raised the fees on me when she could have but she knows my son never has to want for anything hell she got married at one time. But when I got ready to get married I had to damn near act a fool for him to be in it. SMDH. I know when I lived in Vegas for a minute, the min. was $500 off top. Didn't matter where you worked or how many cases you had already, $500. Shit real and the females give a lot of good cats pure hell.
 
The Founder said:
This is interesting....



C. An award of child support continues with respect to any unmarried child who attains the age of majority, or to a child who is emancipated relieving the child of the disabilities attached to minority, as long as the child is a full-time student in good standing in a secondary school or its equivalent, has not attained the age of nineteen, and is dependent upon either parent. Either the primary domiciliary parent or the major or emancipated child is the proper party to enforce an award of child support pursuant to this Subsection.


So regardless child support ends at 19 in Louisiana unless there is a disability.
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Right. That applies to my brother's situation with his son.
 
goodolebrave said:
You said it best here and when you said they get mad at the cat for moving on. Now I personally have a good baby mama hadn't raised the fees on me when she could have but she knows my son never has to want for anything hell she got married at one time. But when I got ready to get married I had to damn near act a fool for him to be in it. SMDH. I know when I lived in Vegas for a minute, the min. was $500 off top. Didn't matter where you worked or how many cases you had already, $500. Shit real and the females give a lot of good cats pure hell.
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Man my fiance's baby daddy pays NOTHING. I used to get mad at her until I realized what she was doing. Basically he supposed to be paying by court order and she has written the court on numerous occasions. When we get married she going to petition the court to have his parental rights removed so that I can adopt him.
 
Also COLLEGE is not the equivalent to a secondary school....LOL...secondary school is grades 9-12 or in some cases 10-12.
 
jag4life said:
And on FB women are criticizing the man for not just leaving because she was "in her feelings".
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What does that mean "in her feelings"
And some of yall keep saying he knew what he was getting into, you know full well that people can be one way when you're getting to know someone and then they may be different dating or when you get married (that's for those of you who've been married). Or even when kids come into the picture. And get a divorce and move on, some women really feel rejected. Especially if you appear to be happy, that makes it even worse for them. I know some men are the same way. but to say folks know what they were getting into beforehand is not always true.

As for the whole CS issue, as been stated, different states have different rules. And if you have no kids, you can't say what you would or would not do, because the courts specifically that judge plays a major part.
I came to a similar conclusion about black fathers vs white fathers when I went through this mess. Most of the white fathers who wanted full or true joint custody got it. where as the black fathers did not, but I believe a lot of that had to do the the mothers as well.

The good thing is not all mothers are like this ignorant female and her mother, especially with a dad taking responsibility. I know of some black mothers who did and are practically begging for a baby daddy like this or even many of us fathers on this board to step up and be responsible. Like life it seems like it's always a mismatch.
 
Jagtone97 said:
I guess they determine that on a case by case basis.
My brother just made his final payment this past December. He initially thought his final payment was January 2015 (when his son turned 18). The payments stopped for two months, then the mother sent in an extension request because my nephew is still in high school. He ended up having to pay 1 more year (to the 19th birthday). Final payment just made December 2015, regardless if nephew attends college or not. She wanted to get another extension until May when my nephew finishes high school but it was denied. Judge won't grant any further request due to mother requesting extensions and increases over the year, and half the time not showing up in court. This is in the state of Louisiana.
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Well, I did not go to court. I thought it was supposed to stop at 18 also, and I paid on time the last 15 years. But it was some lady with an attitude from DSS said still had to pay because she was still in school. I guess because it was that “equivalent” part because she quit going to regular at about 16. I paid until she was about to make her 20th birthday. They gave me a refund but it did not total 8 or 9 months of payments. Really, it was not so much of the child support in my case. It was the health insurance that was killing me. I was forced to get it at my job and I was trying to get it stopped. But the lady from DSS and the Head of human resources at my job said it had to continue. I asked the lady with the bad attitude for how long and she said “as long as she was going to that alternative school.”
 
bigmanofds said:
Well, I did not go to court. I thought it was supposed to stop at 18 also, and I paid on time the last 15 years. But it was some lady with an attitude from DSS said still had to pay because she was still in school. I guess because it was that “equivalent” part because she quit going to regular at about 16. I paid until she was about to make her 20th birthday. They gave me a refund but it did not total 8 or 9 months of payments. Really, it was not so much of the child support in my case. It was the health insurance that was killing me. I was forced to get it at my job and I was trying to get it stopped. But the lady from DSS and the Head of human resources at my job said it had to continue. I asked the lady with the bad attitude for how long and she said “as long as she was going to that alternative school.”
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Yeah the health insurance got me one year too. My son was already covered under his mother's plan (her suggestion). Got a new job mid-year and HR and the state of Texas said I was required to have him on my insurance regardless. Would have had to hire a lawyer and go to court to change it. That cost would have been higher than just keeping the insurance for the last half of the year. When open enrollment came I dropped it. If I get a different job it will come up again.
 
bigmanofds said:
Well, I did not go to court. I thought it was supposed to stop at 18 also, and I paid on time the last 15 years. But it was some lady with an attitude from DSS said still had to pay because she was still in school. I guess because it was that “equivalent” part because she quit going to regular at about 16. I paid until she was about to make her 20th birthday. They gave me a refund but it did not total 8 or 9 months of payments. Really, it was not so much of the child support in my case. It was the health insurance that was killing me. I was forced to get it at my job and I was trying to get it stopped. But the lady from DSS and the Head of human resources at my job said it had to continue. I asked the lady with the bad attitude for how long and she said “as long as she was going to that alternative school.”
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That's the equivalent. It's sad because there are so many black kids being put out of regular secondary schools because of behavior and being sent to an alternative school. What is even more upsetting is that there are some mothers who want their child to be diagnosed with a disability so that they can receive a check. This is especially true when kids are enrolled in special education and not on Core IV in Louisiana. The kid graduates and can receive SSI because of diagnosis of being a developmental learner. Thus, requiring the father to continue child support and the kid get an additional $700 that the mom keeps.
 



The Founder said:
That's the equivalent. It's sad because there are so many black kids being put out of regular secondary schools because of behavior and being sent to an alternative school. What is even more upsetting is that there are some mothers who want their child to be diagnosed with a disability so that they can receive a check. This is especially true when kids are enrolled in special education and not on Core IV in Louisiana. The kid graduates and can receive SSI because of diagnosis of being a developmental learner. Thus, requiring the father to continue child support and the kid get an additional $700 that the mom keeps.
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Lol….that’s exactly what happen. I said quit but she was put out for fighting….two boys.

Yeah, my dad was a guidance counsellor at a school and he used to tell me some stories of the extremes some of those kids would do to get that “crazy check.” lol
 
CEE DOG said:
I know plenty of dudes married who pull out. One of my female friends told me her husband has been doing it for eight years. He doesn't want kids.
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Marriage might be worse. If they ever divorce, I'm sure she will still give him pure hell and not to mention the alimony he might have to pay her.
 
I used to show my son my check where they were taking out for child support ever since he was little. I guess it worked, no kids yet. Lol. However, I remembered one year he told me” Dad I wonder if I’m better off if you leave Mom so I can get a check because you don’t give me that much every month.” lol
 
bigmanofds said:
I used to show my son my check where they were taking out for child support ever since he was little. I guess it worked, no kids yet. Lol. However, I remembered one year he told me” Dad I wonder if I’m better off if you leave Mom so I can get a check because you don’t give me that much every month.” lol
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My sons mom tried to play me telling him that I don't give anything until I told him the amount and showed him. He was like so that's why momma getting her hair done every week and just got a new truck.

I'm like yea that shit ends in 20 months. My fiancé can't stand her ass though.
 
JAG89 said:
Marriage might be worse. If they ever divorce, I'm sure she will still give him pure hell and not to mention the alimony he might have to pay her.
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Man lemme tell ya. LMAO!!!!

I was in court once and this dude was talking about how his ex-wife was angry at him about not spending more time with his kids. He was like I work three jobs. The judge asked her how many does she have and she said one part-time job. The judge told the guy, "you can quit your jobs except for the full-time one because I awarding you custody."

That man jumped for joy!!! That lady was pissed!!!!
 
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