Man you gotta say one thing about the republiklan party...

[bluedog]

Michael Steele is no more than another train monkey of the extreme right wing gluttens

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[Blacknbengal]

What are you listening to and reading that suggest other wise?

~just asking~

Office talk.

 

[southsuburbs]

Read my previous post about regularly scheduled maintainence of the infrastructure systems.

As long as people are being put back to work, its a job. And if its sustainable routine maintainence like it should be, its a long term job that can provide owners with growth opportunities.

All:

Adding to JAG89's comment, the Republicans also don't realize that the bridges and roads don't belong to the private sector. The other thing that gets me is that governments (Fed, State, and Local) hire contractors (Private Sector) who hire workers (Private sector) to do a lot of this work. So the private sector is still benefitting.

Additionally, tax cuts don't immediately help those folks who don't have jobs. If its given as a refundable tax credit, they might get some benefit when they file their income taxes the next year. Otherwise, it won't do the folks without jobs a whole lot of good. And we have seen that trickle down doesn't have the impact or help the way some want to pretend it does.

Regards.

Exactly!

I'm still trying to figure out what is a "true job" vs. a "non-true job" especially when there aren't any jobs out there right now!!!

 

[JAG89]

This is pure NeoCons way of thinking. A good example of this is outside of Baton Rouge, where you have some folks who would vote down a bond measure that would pay for a much needed loop around the City. Currently, the traffic on I-10 and I-12 through Baton Rouge is probably one of the country's most congested and dangerous sections of highway.

 

[kellis]

The problem, as I see it, is in the sentiment that the infrastructure being proposed by Obama is temporary. What he is proposing is maintainence that is long, long overdue, and that should occur on a basis a lot more frequently that it has been. ASCE (the American Society of Civil Engineers) has just put out its grades on the infrastucture systems in the US and most of them received D and D-minus.

The previous administration and others have been very laxed in providing monies, budgets, and thus jobs to handle this much needed work (that's why bridges are falling down, levies are failing, etc., etc.). This would provide sustainable jobs if the maintainence is done on the frequency that it should occur on. Even cites are doing a better job of this than the Feds and the State entities responsible for the major intrastructure systems finally targeted in OBama's Plan. I've seen (or it appears so anyway to be the case) people who make careers out of repaving the same stretch of street here in Cincy over and over again, keeping it maintained.

This is not a make work situation as Steele described; it is a case of the work necessary to keep the infrastructure systems properly maintained has not been occuring at the frequency needed to keep the systems adaquately sustained under previous administrations: and as a result, the jobs required to do so have been lost, creating an element of the strains that are cause of the problems with the current Economy.

Regards.

:tup: :tup:

 

[Suge]

Michael Steele is no more than another train monkey

Wow! SMH.......just sad!:shame:

 

[SUtrp96]

Did any of you watch the town hall meeting with the two democratic beggers?

Part of the reason I am not a Democrat.... Dude said he worked at Mickey D's for 4 1/2 years and wanted Obama to get him better benefits than what he is getting now flipping burgers at FN Mac Donalds...wtf?!?!? Do any of you see something wrong with this MENTALITY?!?! Why did Obama not correct this YOUNG kid with such F'd up aspirations?

That was a prime example of the Democratic "Party".. The WANT for people to NEED them and beg them... They would rather this kid work another 30 years in that joint, because he was always have a since of need from "THEM"..

And the lady asking for a house, car and kitchen?!?! OMG!!this is getting pathetic... At least the lady should have known a new kitchen was going to come with the new house I am sure Obama is going to see about making sure she gets now...

Dr. King did not want this for our people... More importantly, YOU all should not want this for our people...

 

[JAG89]

Did any of you watch the town hall meeting with the two democratic beggers?

Part of the reason I am not a Democrat.... Dude said he worked at Mickey D's for 4 1/2 years and wanted Obama to get him better benefits than what he is getting now flipping burgers at FN Mac Donalds...wtf?!?!? Do any of you see something wrong with this MENTALITY?!?! Why did Obama not correct this YOUNG kid with such F'd up aspirations?

That was a prime example of the Democratic "Party".. The WANT for people to NEED them and beg them... They would rather this kid work another 30 years in that joint, because he was always have a since of need from "THEM"..

And the lady asking for a house, car and kitchen?!?! OMG!!this is getting pathetic... At least the lady should have known a new kitchen was going to come with the new house I am sure Obama is going to see about making sure she gets now...

Dr. King did not want this for our people... More importantly, YOU all should not want this for our people...

But the Republicans actually made them that way by cutting EDUCATION.

 

[CEE DOG]

What the heck does that have to do with Obama getting the economy back on track? DO you have a self hate problem going with Obama or something? Poor folks will always be with us, the mentality of some of these folks will never change, but they are human beings. Although Obama knows he can't change their minds set, he still has to make them feel human. Don't get to high minded, because what God gave you today, can be gone the next.

Did any of you watch the town hall meeting with the two democratic beggers?

Part of the reason I am not a Democrat.... Dude said he worked at Mickey D's for 4 1/2 years and wanted Obama to get him better benefits than what he is getting now flipping burgers at FN Mac Donalds...wtf?!?!? Do any of you see something wrong with this MENTALITY?!?! Why did Obama not correct this YOUNG kid with such F'd up aspirations?

That was a prime example of the Democratic "Party".. The WANT for people to NEED them and beg them... They would rather this kid work another 30 years in that joint, because he was always have a since of need from "THEM"..

And the lady asking for a house, car and kitchen?!?! OMG!!this is getting pathetic... At least the lady should have known a new kitchen was going to come with the new house I am sure Obama is going to see about making sure she gets now...

Dr. King did not want this for our people... More importantly, YOU all should not want this for our people...

 

[southsuburbs]

Did any of you watch the town hall meeting with the two democratic beggers?

Part of the reason I am not a Democrat.... Dude said he worked at Mickey D's for 4 1/2 years and wanted Obama to get him better benefits than what he is getting now flipping burgers at FN Mac Donalds...wtf?!?!? Do any of you see something wrong with this MENTALITY?!?! Why did Obama not correct this YOUNG kid with such F'd up aspirations?

That was a prime example of the Democratic "Party".. The WANT for people to NEED them and beg them... They would rather this kid work another 30 years in that joint, because he was always have a since of need from "THEM"..

And the lady asking for a house, car and kitchen?!?! OMG!!this is getting pathetic... At least the lady should have known a new kitchen was going to come with the new house I am sure Obama is going to see about making sure she gets now...

Dr. King did not want this for our people... More importantly, YOU all should not want this for our people...

First of all, it is a job, regardless of how pretty it is/isn't...it's still a job. Maybe that's the only job he can find...so he shouldn't get benefits? White Castles offer full time benefits for full time employers after so many days/months working there. I always recommend people go apply to White Castle, especially if they can't find anything else.

Now....how is that connected to the Democratic Party?!! LMAO

 

[JAG89]

First of all, it is a job, regardless of how pretty it is/isn't...it's still a job. Maybe that's the only job he can find...so he shouldn't get benefits? White Castles offer full time benefits for full time employers after so many days/months working there. I always recommend people go apply to White Castle, especially if they can't find anything else.

Now....how is that connected to the Democratic Party?!! LMAO

Exactly....And most of these restaurants are own by Republicans, like Chickfala.

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[SUtrp96]

What the heck does that have to do with Obama getting the economy back on track? DO you have a self hate problem going with Obama or something? Poor folks will always be with us, the mentality of some of these folks will never change, but they are human beings. Although Obama knows he can't change their minds set, he still has to make them feel human. Don't get to high minded, because what God gave you today, can be gone the next.

You must be a taker as well from this post...
My mind set don't come from what God gave me.."A mind and the will to succeed"...
That can never be taken from me SIR!.... If you going to blame this mentality on the Repubs (which I am not) then why don't you blame the DEM for helping folk with that UCKED! up way of thinking?!?!

Furthermore SIR!!
This town hall meeting where these horrif acts of humanity happen was supposed to be a staging ground for Obama to sell this stimulus package to... From the audience and the folk that were allowed to ask question, it don't seem like he had to do any selling at all...smh..
You are questioning me about what does this have to do with the stimulus package.. You should have been SYH at the TV screen asking the same thing for those beggers... Oh my bad they were trying to get stimulated for doing "nothing"...

I asked YOU and several others in other Stimulus package type threads, how come there is so much unnecessary crap in this bill that is supposed to be about saving us from the Greatest Depression?

And how do I have self hate, when I have NOT one FN problem with the majority of my friends and associates who are WORKING, starting small businesses making a way for themselves? I have a problem with people that want everything given to them, I wouldn't care if it was my brother, he would hear it from me.

 

[JAG89]

I get it now, we should demand that all these restaurant owners shut down, because all they are doing is making our people look like a fool in their kitchen.

 

[SUtrp96]

First of all, it is a job, regardless of how pretty it is/isn't...it's still a job. Maybe that's the only job he can find...so he shouldn't get benefits? White Castles offer full time benefits for full time employers after so many days/months working there. I always recommend people go apply to White Castle, especially if they can't find anything else.

Now....how is that connected to the Democratic Party?!! LMAO

Did you not hear that clown speak?!

He said benefits better that the benefit he is already getting!!!! Which mean he is getting some type of benefits!!!

He need to be told; complete school and work at a place where the pay is better as well as the benefits... or start your own small business one day... I always thought McDs was a stepping stone for teenagers to get work experience!! Not a place to call home and try to unionized it.

I honestly think inspiring to work at McD as a burger flipper more than 2 years is laughable at best...

I blame the dems because they are for BIG government that wants people to NOT aim high... If the Democratic "Party" was for people like me, they wouldn't be looking to take so FN much from me to give to someone else with the God given will who decided to wake up at 3pm when I was waking up at 5:30am.

Lastly, I recommend folks to do better than fast food, if you WANT more...

 

[JAG89]

He need to be told; complete school and work at a place where the pay is better as well as the benefits... or start your own small business one day... I always thought McDs was a stepping stone for teenagers to get work experience!! Not a place to call home and try to unionized it.

The dude was a teenager. He was only 19.

 

[SUtrp96]

I get it now, we should demand that all these restaurant owners shut down, because all they are doing is making our people look like a fool in their kitchen.

The owner of a Restaurant eeerrr... fast food chain is just that an owner of a fast food chain. He invested a lot of HIS money into getting it up and going. Are you suggesting fast food workers make $20 an hour? That would mean they would have to up the pay of job where people have degrees or else who would want to waste 4 years in college to make what they can make working at Ihop?

They have Fast food owners that are democrats as well....I am neither, but on the economic side of things I tend to agree with the republicans...Work hard and be as wealthy as you can be... be lazy and work at McDs the rest of your life, the choice is yours...

 

[SUtrp96]

The dude was a teenager. He was only 19.

If he is 19, why is he worrying about EXTRA BENIFITS from Mcdonalds.. That should be motivation to do better... It was for ME.. I worked at Foot Lookers for less than a year, than I bum rushed my arse to college to persue a higher education... I thank Foot Lookers for giving me the push... Hell the store manager was pushing me to make sure I went off to college and did something better with my life and I was in HIGH SCHOOL....lmao

 

[JAG89]

The owner of a Restaurant eeerrr... fast food chain is just that an owner of a fast food chain. He invested a lot of HIS money into getting it up and going. Are you suggesting fast food workers make $20 an hour? That would mean they would have to up the pay of job where people have degrees or else who would want to waste 4 years in college to make what they can make working at Ihop?

They have Fast food owners that are democrats as well....I am neither, but on the economic side of things I tend to agree with the republicans...Work hard and be as wealthy as you can be... be lazy and work at McDs the rest of your life, the choice is yours...

I agree, but don't take away the opportunties that made you successful so others don't have the same chance.

 

[SUtrp96]

I agree, but don't take away the opportunties that made you successful so others don't have the same chance.

Who is taking away opportunities? The only thing I believe the Democrats got right in the private sector is "Affirmative Action"..... Other than that who is taking away opportunities? If we did away with taxes on wages all together a lot American would not have the fundamental differences we have today..
I disagree with the Repubs when they take the stance on higher tax breaks for the wealthy and less for the not so wealthy to keep government funded program so that the house members and senate constituents remain happy... Now if we going to tax folks on their wages it should the same flat rate or same percentage across the board.

But back to stimulus.. Why in a stimulus bill that is supposed to save us from the Greatest Depression we have money (80 billion) going to ACORN billions going to birth control and socializing medicine? Can someone that believe in the Democratic Party please explain this to me?

 

[JAG89]

Who is taking away opportunities? The only thing I believe the Democrats got right in the private sector is "Affirmative Action"..... Other than that who is taking away opportunities? If we did away with taxes on wages all together a lot American would not have the fundamental differences we have today..
I disagree with the Repubs when they take the stance on higher tax breaks for the wealthy and less for the not so wealthy to keep government funded program so that the house members and senate constituents remain happy... Now if we going to tax folks on their wages it should the same flat rate or same percentage across the board.

But back to stimulus.. Why in a stimulus bill that is supposed to save us from the Greatest Depression we have money (80 billion) going to ACORN billions going to birth control and socializing medicine? Can someone that believe in the Democratic Party please explain this to me?

So you agree to cutting spending in education?

Here's a Republican that made his success from affirmative action programs and decides against them whenever given the chance:

 

[Suge]

SUTrp96........let me give you some advice. Just stop, for your own sake! You will not get an answer, and you will not get a debate. You will only be called things like a "trained monkey" or your loyalty to the race will be questioned...........again.

 

[CEE DOG]

You guys are funny. :lol: Just like Clarence Thomas you guys made it off of affirmative action programs that either you or your parents were privileged to, now you down folks who struggle from day to day to survive. You all wanna debate? Let's debate what the Repubs have done in the last eight years? I'll be waiting for your answer!!!!!!

 

[JAG89]

SUTrp96........let me give you some advice. Just stop, for your own sake! You will not get an answer, and you will not get a debate. You will only be called things like a "trained monkey" or your loyalty to the race will be questioned...........again.

I prefer calling them "Oxymoron Kneegrows", especially those that graduated from HBCUs and agree to the same cuts that would close the doors at their college or university.

What we really need to do is police ourselves and challenge each other to strive to do better. Trained Monkeys, Attacked Dogs, House Kneegrows, etc. crosses party line. We saw this during the Democratic Primaries. It's just more obvious in the Republican Party.

 

[CEE DOG]

Black Repubs love to say no one will debate them intelligently, yet not one of them can name anything their party has done to benefit this country since 2000. Not one of them, so who is the person who really can't hold an intelligent debate? :idea:

 

[JAG89]

Black Repubs love to say no one will debate them intelligently, yet not one of them can name anything their party has done to benefit this country since 2000. Not one of them, so who is the person who really can't hold an intelligent debate? :idea:

I'm sure Mr. Bling Bling Michael Steele party leader can.:lol: