I'm Done - Democrats add gay marriage to party platform


You have not shown where the company changed policy solely based on the matter of same sex/gay marriage, this appears to be simply a change in their business policies. And I am more than willing to bet there were more heterosexual marriages at that company than same sex partners which means yea the insurance company was losing money on the amount of policies they could underwrite. And as you said "for decades" that is how their business was done - perhaps it was not economically feasible for said insurance company to underwrite the number of policies in that same manner...and I HIGHLY doubt that insurance company said to hell with the heterosexual marriages - we are going to mess over them and create this provision for same sex partners. Their business decision might have created that byproduct but again I would doubt that was their sole mission.

So bottom line - did the company say this was done to accomodate same sex/gay marriages
or was this just an across the board change in the way they did business after DECADES of doing business another way?
 
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kILLER, I voted for Bush senior because of his family values platform. I regret it and never again will I vote for a party whose platform is racial and economic hatred. Sit out but do ot vote republican please. The Tea Party segment of the republican party has taken that racist organization and said you are not racist enough.
J C said:
One issue trumps all others? That does not make sense. However, you have that right and get no criticism from me.
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Killer Bees said:
I had enough. I vote on the issues and lately the Democrats have been doing a lot of things that simply ticked me off. This latest one is the last straw..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...arty-platform/2012/07/30/gJQAkvqxKX_blog.html

I'm likely going to vote Republican or sit out this fall.
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CEE DOG said:
You have the right to vote the way you do, but what trips me out about black folks who attend church and read the bible is their comprehension of the bible. There is no way you can read the bible, study it or have read the book of revelations and have a understanding of these things were to come. You can not stop what is written. I don't support the gay stuff. Never have nor never will I support it, but I also have enough sense to realize that less than 60% of the folks in this country make 100K, less than 80% make 200K, less than 90% make 250K. Don't cry when the repubs stick it to you and everyone else because you let a bunch of gays who are going to continue living their gay life style one way or the other blind side you from the bigger picture. The bigger picture is the tea party and this republican candidate does not care about the working class people. In 2012 their is no difference between a white collar job, nor a blue collar job. Now you folks may fool yourself into thinking that it is, but don't fool yourself.
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As much as I love Barak and most of his issues, this stance is sickening and anti-Christ. I now am voting for the lesser of two evils. I am voting for who cares about me and not voting for who hates me. I am so disappointed in the president but he is the best thing going.
 



C.O.G. said:
kILLER, I voted for Bush senior because of his family values platform. I regret it and never again will I vote for a party whose platform is racial and economic hatred. Sit out but do ot vote republican please. The Tea Party segment of the republican party has taken that racist organization and said you are not racist enough.






As much as I love Barak and most of his issues, this stance is sickening and anti-Christ. I now am voting for the lesser of two evils. I am voting for who cares about me and not voting for who hates me. I am so disappointed in the president but he is the best thing going.
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Jesus stated nothing on gayness.
 
J C said:
One issue trumps all others? That does not make sense. However, you have that right and get no criticism from me.
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Killer Bees said:
I had enough. I vote on the issues and lately the Democrats have been doing a lot of things that simply ticked me off. This latest one is the last straw..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...arty-platform/2012/07/30/gJQAkvqxKX_blog.html

I'm likely going to vote Republican or sit out this fall.
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southsuburbs said:
So do you have an issue with gays getting married at City Hall or in the Church? Or both?
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This is where I lose some persons. My problem is not with gays they have every right as anyone. They can marry where ever they chose. My problem is with the church which is supposed to be living with the principles of Christianity. No the church should not marry gays. The government may keep a record on contracts between any two persons. It should not be labeled marriage. It is a contract, an agreement. They should have every right as married couples, but it is a civil not a religious union. In fact I think the government should get out of marriage business and the church should get out of gay union business.
 
J C said:
One issue trumps all others? That does not make sense. However, you have that right and get no criticism from me.
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Killer Bees said:
I had enough. I vote on the issues and lately the Democrats have been doing a lot of things that simply ticked me off. This latest one is the last straw..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...arty-platform/2012/07/30/gJQAkvqxKX_blog.html

I'm likely going to vote Republican or sit out this fall.
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JagHammer said:
Jesus stated nothing on gayness.
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Sodom an Gomorah. Genesis 19.
 
C.O.G. said:
Sodom an Gomorah. Genesis 19.
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I just grilled someone over this last night on facebook, and God was responding to the cries of people complaining about the immorality of Sodom and Gommorah. He send two angels down to investigate the situation (irony), and they had to fight off roving gangs that wanted to rape them. Lot offered his virgin daughters, but they refused and they blinded the roving gang so they could escape. Now a better example would come from the first chapter of Romans, but that was Paul talking to said people because homosexuality was an excepted norm in Rome.
 
C.O.G. said:
This is where I lose some persons. My problem is not with gays they have every right as anyone. They can marry where ever they chose. My problem is with the church which is supposed to be living with the principles of Christianity. No the church should not marry gays. The government may keep a record on contracts between any two persons. It should not be labeled marriage. It is a contract, an agreement. They should have every right as married couples, but it is a civil not a religious union. In fact I think the government should get out of marriage business and the church should get out of gay union business.
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No church can be forced to perform gay weddings. That decision will be left to the church pastor, officers, and congregation. Marriage is a civil contract. Don't confuse the ceremony with the contract.
 
Killer Bees said:
I had enough. I vote on the issues and lately the Democrats have been doing a lot of things that simply ticked me off. This latest one is the last straw..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...arty-platform/2012/07/30/gJQAkvqxKX_blog.html

I'm likely going to vote Republican or sit out this fall.
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Man you folks are so confused and sad. Y'all inability to not understand why there is a Spain of church and state and how to apply that I'm your everyday life I'd mind boggling.



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J C said:
The Dems are the progressive party and have been since FDR. The Repubs are the conservative party. Conservatives have fought progressive initiatives such as equal rights for women, black Americans and now gay rights since the country was founded and a secular government was established. The platform initiative is a continuation of the historic march to equal rights and due process outlined in the 14th amendment. I know many of my fellow Christian brethren oppose gays making marital contracts and do not see the connection to equal rights for all American citizens. To me it's very clear. Early Christians developed their anti homosexual beliefs due to the pervasive Greco Roman culture where homosexuality was considered the norm. The church has dealt with this issue for the last 2,000 years and will continue to do so. It's similar to the abortion and evolution/creation issues. Thank God we live in America where we can choose where we come down on these controversial issues based on our beliefs.
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the only problem is that when it has been put to a vote, the voice of the people, the courts overturn the result. homosexual marriage is being forced onto the country. it hasn't passed a vote anywhere in the country. new orleans and california voted it down.
 
J C said:
No church can be forced to perform gay weddings. That decision will be left to the church pastor, officers, and congregation. Marriage is a civil contract. Don't confuse the ceremony with the contract.
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we would hope that no church could be forced to perform gay marriages. I also thought a buisness couldn't be stopped because you disagree with the personal opinion of the owner, but we see where rhom et al came down on that. when you're talking about satan trying to shut up the church you can't say what man will do.
 
J C said:
The Dems are the progressive party and have been since FDR. The Repubs are the conservative party. Conservatives have fought progressive initiatives such as equal rights for women, black Americans and now gay rights since the country was founded and a secular government was established. The platform initiative is a continuation of the historic march to equal rights and due process outlined in the 14th amendment. I know many of my fellow Christian brethren oppose gays making marital contracts and do not see the connection to equal rights for all American citizens. To me it's very clear. Early Christians developed their anti homosexual beliefs due to the pervasive Greco Roman culture where homosexuality was considered the norm. The church has dealt with this issue for the last 2,000 years and will continue to do so. It's similar to the abortion and evolution/creation issues. Thank God we live in America where we can choose where we come down on these controversial issues based on our beliefs.
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I think I'm in your group.

Another bottom line, gays have $$$s. So...if a gay person is donating $100K and you're donating $20 - $100, whose gonna have more influence?
IMO, the big churches seem to support repubs so why would the dems waste their time supporting some group who doesn't pay-up?
We have a political system that works on what most folks call bribery.
 



Mark said:
No. Civil contracts existed long before the Bible. Remember, the Bible was not written that long ago.
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Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible, plus testimonies of the patriarchs. These were passed down as oral tradition before then. Please cite the beginning of written civil contracts prior to then please. Thanks
 
MetroPhillyTiger said:
Question: Being that blacks are strong against gay marriage and lifestyle, how did we end up with the highest rate of HIV?
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Well, there are a number of theories behind that. One is that because the black community has historically been tremendously harsh toward homosexuals that it creates atmosphere where those individuals are ashamed to come out due to fear of being ostracized.

Then there is no or limited access to health care, lack of education about the illness and having unprotected sex are among the factors that contribute to what we see. Others would say there are too many cats double dipping or on the down low which creates all sorts of issues.
 
There are also some who would say it was created for a certain purpose and certain populations are more succecptible. Also the medical community lies about how it is being spread in the community. I have had the pleasure of speaking with a few people in public health in trusted conversations and they freely admit it is rare that a woman gives it to a man (or hardly ever they have seen). Men give it to other men and women. If a man never does IV drugs and never has sex with a man, his probability of ever getting it is crazy low. Bi Sexual men and heroin use are driving this thing. But that also makes you question why is it not the same in counties where poor whites are injecting meth at a high rate. Do they just do better at using and cleaning needles than poor Black people.
 
FAMU CLIFF said:
Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible, plus testimonies of the patriarchs. These were passed down as oral tradition before then. Please cite the beginning of written civil contracts prior to then please. Thanks
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:lmao:

So Moses wrote of his own death and inability to cross over into the "Promised Land."
 
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