Bartram
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D-NICE said:In ASU's case I wouldn't say quickly Bart. They've been in the SWAC for over 20 years now, that's not quick at all. I will give ASU props for their recent success in the past 5 years though. You can no longer look at ASU, and say it's an automatic win.
Now you can say that in AAMU's case, because they've been in the conference for 6 years now, and they've become a major player in football, and they've won the conference outright in basketball. Though they haven't won a championship in football, they've been in the championship game twice, and without that 4th quarter meltdown last year in the MCC, they could've possibly been in the big game 3 times in 6 years.
All things considered, they've accomplished a lot in their short time in the SWAC, considering the tradition rich football that's played in the conference. You can make the argument that the SWAC is not the SWAC of old, but at the end of the day, you still have to win the games that you play, and that's no fault of their own, they've managed to become very competitive in a relative short period of time.
In ASU's case, it wasn't always the way it is. Quickly is doing what Hampton did when they joined the MEAC, they went in, and in their 3rd year, they won back to back football championships, and went on the win the basketball crown a few times. That's quickly establishing yourself, and at the same time, they took SC State out of the football equation over there.
NICE
Ok so 20 years in the SWAC would put ASU into the SWAC in 1984-1985. They won the SWAC or at least ran through it in 91 or so didn't they? Didn't take them long to ascend to the top of the SWAC coming from Division II-A no matter how you slice it looks to me.