Ed Reed’s comments about HBCU’s


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SUJagFan said:
Yep. Fugg them white bread Uncle Tom folks who went to PWIs. They don't emphasize or sympathize with "the HBCU experience". Have a hard time accepting things we've learned to tolerate. Things we've learned to sweep under the rug. Things we overlook and ignore. They BETTER NOT point out the inadequacies of our schools that could and should be fixed. Get out of here with that white folks thinking that schools should perform effectively and efficiently. Be clean? Fugg that white man's thinking. His brain is broken by thinking the white man's ice is colder.

Fugg them folks. HBCUs don't need their help. We're happy with our negra way of thinking. As long as the voices in the negra echo chamber are saying the same things and makes us warm and fuzzy - that's all that matters.

Fugg them folks.

Did I do it right?

While y'all are saying fugg them folks, many are saying fugg you too. Not bringing their talents, contacts, and resources to places that don't respect them. Places where they are shown that they are unwelcome and unappreciated. For a small amount of pay at a place that is unclean and disorganized and the people don't care because "that's SWAC". That's what it means to be Black. To be HBCU. You have to accept and be comfortable with half-assed sh!t. That's "the HBCU experience". The only thing done well is shucking and jiving.

In the long run, HBCU people will have to take care of HBCU problems. By yourself.

Because insular attitudes from HBCU people may provide solidarity among yourselves, but they are repulsive to others.

So ... yeah ... fugg them. And fugg you too.
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Now that was a mouthful. WOW!!
 
SUJagFan said:
Yep. Fugg them white bread Uncle Tom folks who went to PWIs. They don't emphasize or sympathize with "the HBCU experience". Have a hard time accepting things we've learned to tolerate. Things we've learned to sweep under the rug. Things we overlook and ignore. They BETTER NOT point out the inadequacies of our schools that could and should be fixed. Get out of here with that white folks thinking that schools should perform effectively and efficiently. Be clean? Fugg that white man's thinking. His brain is broken by thinking the white man's ice is colder.

Fugg them folks. HBCUs don't need their help. We're happy with our negra way of thinking. As long as the voices in the negra echo chamber are saying the same things and makes us warm and fuzzy - that's all that matters.

Fugg them folks.

Did I do it right?

While y'all are saying fugg them folks, many are saying fugg you too. Not bringing their talents, contacts, and resources to places that don't respect them. Places where they are shown that they are unwelcome and unappreciated. For a small amount of pay at a place that is unclean and disorganized and the people don't care because "that's SWAC". That's what it means to be Black. To be HBCU. You have to accept and be comfortable with half-assed sh!t. That's "the HBCU experience". The only thing done well is shucking and jiving.

In the long run, HBCU people will have to take care of HBCU problems. By yourself.

Because insular attitudes from HBCU people may provide solidarity among yourselves, but they are repulsive to others.

So ... yeah ... fugg them. And fugg you too.
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If you have a boss, cuss 'em out and tell them all the crap that's wrong with your work place, how incompetent they are, how they're screwing the workers, and record it on social media.

Get back to us with how much of a raise you got for keeping it 💯.

Oh wait, that's only for black employers.
 
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SUJagFan said:
Yep. Fugg them white bread Uncle Tom folks who went to PWIs. They don't emphasize or sympathize with "the HBCU experience". Have a hard time accepting things we've learned to tolerate. Things we've learned to sweep under the rug. Things we overlook and ignore. They BETTER NOT point out the inadequacies of our schools that could and should be fixed. Get out of here with that white folks thinking that schools should perform effectively and efficiently. Be clean? Fugg that white man's thinking. His brain is broken by thinking the white man's ice is colder.

Fugg them folks. HBCUs don't need their help. We're happy with our negra way of thinking. As long as the voices in the negra echo chamber are saying the same things and makes us warm and fuzzy - that's all that matters.

Fugg them folks.

Did I do it right?

While y'all are saying fugg them folks, many are saying fugg you too. Not bringing their talents, contacts, and resources to places that don't respect them. Places where they are shown that they are unwelcome and unappreciated. For a small amount of pay at a place that is unclean and disorganized and the people don't care because "that's SWAC". That's what it means to be Black. To be HBCU. You have to accept and be comfortable with half-assed sh!t. That's "the HBCU experience". The only thing done well is shucking and jiving.

In the long run, HBCU people will have to take care of HBCU problems. By yourself.

Because insular attitudes from HBCU people may provide solidarity among yourselves, but they are repulsive to others.

So ... yeah ... fugg them. And fugg you too.
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You mean like Miami and Florida State? If those schools truly valued them, they wouldn't be here, now would they?
 
MetroPhillyTiger said:
If you have a boss, cuss 'em out and tell them all the crap that's wrong your work place, how incompetent they are, how they're screwing the workers, and record it on social media.

Get back to us with how much of a raise you got for keeping it 💯.

Oh wait, that's only for black employers.
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Have you heard of whistleblower laws? Most colleges have whistleblower policies - even white ones. You can read them online. This idea that people can't criticize colleges without getting fired is ludicrous.

Sure, there are certain things you can criticize and a way to do it. Being vulgar on TikTok is probably not the way. However, the idea that a person CANNOT criticize a college or university without getting fired is blatantly false.

It's just another shortsighted rationale for accepting mediocrity.
 
funkie junkie said:
You mean like Miami and Florida State? If those schools truly valued them, they wouldn't be here, now would they?
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Most aren't.

I recently read a statistic that 9 out 10 Black college students are not enrolled at HBCUs. Regular students and athletes.

So, ... what's your point? Seems like the vast majority reject you just like you try to reject them.
 
ghostwriter said:
you don't get a contract signed like that so quick - its agreed upon and then ratified by the Board at the next scheduled meeting or a special meeting - surely working at a private school like Miami he knows that
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I'm sure they never had him picking up trash at Miami either. But, yes, they are both private institutions.
 
SUJagFan said:
Most aren't.

I recently read a statistic that 9 out 10 Black college students are not enrolled at HBCUs. Regular students and athletes.

So, ... what's your point? Seems like the vast majority reject you just like you try to reject them.
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What you said is why I tell HBCU grads that trying to discriminate against blacks who went to PWIs will only harm you and HBCUs. The numbers for HBCUs to only hire HBCU grads simply isn't there. So, in other words, work with your people and both sides need to accept criticism and make changes.
 
Earle said:
Ed Reed does not appear to be the ntellectual-type. I wonder what gives this man the wherewithall to think that he knows everything about college football coaching and administration and noone else in HBCUdom knows anything. How dare him say that he had done more in a week and a half than some at BCU had done in years. Such a belief only serves to undermine the blood, sweat, and tears that Dr. Mary McLeod Bethune and those following in her footsteps have expended to advance this great institution of higher learning that is still paying dividends to our Black youth today, more than 119 years after its founding. If his recent comments are any indication, Reed appears to be a man lacking for wisdom.
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Ed is what some of y'all bourgeoisie folks need. We already know SU wouldn't have hired Ed regardless of his qualifications because he's unapologetically black and looks too street and he's dark skin. Ed went into the NFL HOF looking and talking just like does everyday so he's not changing. Furthermore, Mary McLeod Bethune supported Margaret Sanger so more of us need to know Mary wasn't about shit. ;)
 
funkie junkie said:
You mean like Miami and Florida State? If those schools truly valued them, they wouldn't be here, now would they?
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Guys like Ed could get jobs at a number of PWIs. But, they can skip the line and get head coaching experience at HBCUs because HBCUs need their notoriety, their corporate connections in the way of sponsorships and media attention. Honestly, had Ed stayed coaching in the NFL he might be a DC in the NFL by now.
 
BookerJones said:
What you said is why I tell HBCU grads that trying to discriminate against blacks who went to PWIs will only harm you and HBCUs. The numbers for HBCUs to only hire HBCU grads simply isn't there. So, in other words, work with your people and both sides need to accept criticism and make changes.
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Seems so simple.

People don't like to be made to feel inferior. That defensiveness and tendency to "circle the wagons" in the face of any criticism are entranced in HBCUs. It's a natural human reaction and I understand it.

On the other hand, I also understand that they drive away possible allies with that behavior. Especially when it is combined with a refusal to acknowledge or address the issues.

It makes people who could help not want to help. When they see how others who tried to help were treated.

As I said before, it's sad when Black folks can't help Black folks because the culture clashes are real.
 
SUJagFan said:
Have you heard of whistleblower laws? Most colleges have whistleblower policies - even white ones. You can read them online. This idea that people can't criticize colleges without getting fired is ludicrous.

Sure, there are certain things you can criticize and a way to do it. Being vulgar on TikTok is probably not the way. However, the idea that a person CANNOT criticize a college or university without getting fired is blatantly false.

It's just another shortsighted rationale for accepting mediocrity.
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This makes more sense than the other thing you posted. No one said you can't be critical...but there are ways to do it. Tactfully and professionally. Props to Eddie George.
 
BookerJones said:
Ed is what some of y'all bourgeoisie folks need. We already know SU wouldn't have hired Ed regardless of his qualifications because he's unapologetically black and looks too street and he's dark skin. Ed went into the NFL HOF looking and talking just like does everyday so he's not changing. Furthermore, Mary McLeod Bethune supported Margaret Sanger so more of us need to know Mary wasn't about shit. ;)
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I didn't know Dooley and Big Worm are light-skinded.
 
MetroPhillyTiger said:
This makes more sense than the other thing you posted. No one said you can't be critical...but there are ways to do it. Tactfully and professionally. Props to Eddie George.
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Everything I post makes sense and is right.

If you don't understand it, then it's because of your lack of comprehension skills or intelligence.

Never forget ... I'm always right. Never wrong.

Just accept it even if you don't understand it.

I tell folks to just nod and smile when you hear me talking. Nod and smile. Act like you understand what I'm talking about so you will be on the side of righteousness.

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MetroPhillyTiger said:
Mane please. You be flip-flopping like a fish out if water.
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Never.

The words may change, but the underlying principle remains the same. And the principles I stand on are right. They are rock solid and I know that before I say anything.

I stand on principles. While most people speak their emotions of the moment. Something I learned from my father who was a pastor. Stand on principles. Just make sure the principle you stand on is right. If it is, then you can stand right there no matter how many people oppose you. The whole world could be against me, but if my principle is right ... I'm going to win. Even if they take my life.
 
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SUJagFan said:
Yep. Fugg them white bread Uncle Tom folks who went to PWIs. They don't emphasize or sympathize with "the HBCU experience". Have a hard time accepting things we've learned to tolerate. Things we've learned to sweep under the rug. Things we overlook and ignore. They BETTER NOT point out the inadequacies of our schools that could and should be fixed. Get out of here with that white folks thinking that schools should perform effectively and efficiently. Be clean? Fugg that white man's thinking. His brain is broken by thinking the white man's ice is colder.

Fugg them folks. HBCUs don't need their help. We're happy with our negra way of thinking. As long as the voices in the negra echo chamber are saying the same things and makes us warm and fuzzy - that's all that matters.

Fugg them folks.

Did I do it right?

While y'all are saying fugg them folks, many are saying fugg you too. Not bringing their talents, contacts, and resources to places that don't respect them. Places where they are shown that they are unwelcome and unappreciated. For a small amount of pay at a place that is unclean and disorganized and the people don't care because "that's SWAC". That's what it means to be Black. To be HBCU. You have to accept and be comfortable with half-assed sh!t. That's "the HBCU experience". The only thing done well is shucking and jiving.

In the long run, HBCU people will have to take care of HBCU problems. By yourself.

Because insular attitudes from HBCU people may provide solidarity among yourselves, but they are repulsive to others.

So ... yeah ... fugg them. And fugg you too.
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I'mmo need for you to apply for a position at PV in a leadership position.

Those mf's have worked my last bad nerve.
 
SUJagFan said:
Most aren't.

I recently read a statistic that 9 out 10 Black college students are not enrolled at HBCUs. Regular students and athletes.

So, ... what's your point? Seems like the vast majority reject you just like you try to reject them.
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So they're good enough to run and jump to make the school money, but not good enough to lead the program. That in itself says plenty, but let's take it a step further.

As I said earlier, they KNOW better than to speak out of line against the white schools. There's a whole documentary about Miami and their corruption. Coaches selling drugs, financial aid scandals, murder, you name it.

Matter of fact, this was last year. https://www.on3.com/college/miami-h...eadsets-devices-penalty-manny-diaz-reprimand/

No Instagram live talking about why Miami needs to be cleaned up? Of course not.

1. He knows his place with the white folks.
2. He has too much respect for them to do anything to damage their reputation (which already isn't good, but that's beside the point.)

That's fine; he should stay on that side though. And as the responses (and his own apology) show, these emotionally charged tirades aren't good for his climb up the career ladder, and likely explain why he was never going to move up under Miami's watch.
 
SUJagFan said:
Never.

The words may change, but the underlying principle remains the same. And the principles I stand on are right. They are rock solid and I know that before I say anything.

I stand on principles. While most people speak their emotions of the moment. Something I learned from my father who was a pastor. Stand on principles. Just make sure the principle you stand on is right. If it is, then you can stand right there no matter how many people oppose you. The whole world could be against me, but if my principle is right ... I'm going to win. Even if they take my life.
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What principle are you standing on to defend how ER handled himself?
 
funkie junkie said:
So they're good enough to run and jump to make the school money, but not good enough to lead the program. That in itself says plenty, but let's take it a step further.

As I said earlier, they KNOW better than to speak out of line against the white schools. There's a whole documentary about Miami and their corruption. Coaches selling drugs, financial aid scandals, murder, you name it.

Matter of fact, this was last year. https://www.on3.com/college/miami-h...eadsets-devices-penalty-manny-diaz-reprimand/

No Instagram live talking about why Miami needs to be cleaned up? Of course not.

1. He knows his place with the white folks.
2. He has too much respect for them to do anything to damage their reputation (which already isn't good, but that's beside the point.)

That's fine; he should stay on that side though. And as the responses (and his own apology) show, these emotionally charged tirades aren't good for his climb up the career ladder, and likely explain why he was never going to move up under Miami's watch.
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You're just arguing to be arguing now.

SOMEBODY reported that Miami was using too many headsets. Miami was punished. Did the person reporting the violation lose their job? Doubt it. How do you know it wasn't a Black person who reported the violation - even possibly Ed Reed? How do you know?

That article proves my point that people do speak out against PWIs.

Just because it doesn't have Ed Reed making a vulgar TikTok about it means nothing.

Your point is invalid.

You're arguing for the sake of arguing and proving me right all along. You know why? Because your principles are wrong. Get out of your emotions and accept the fact that improvements can be made at HBCUs. Improvements that people who went to PWIs may have noticed and pointed out.

Why isn't wanting what is best for your university more important to you than somebody hurting your feelings? Why?
 
MetroPhillyTiger said:
What principle are you standing on to defend how ER handled himself?
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I'm defending what he said, not how he said it.

I may not have been bothered by how he said it because I've used a few choice words a time or two myself.

I spent a day monitoring the comments of people on various sites and platforms. Very few people doubted he had been cleaning up trash. Few people doubted his office wasn't clean when he arrived. Few doubted the building was full of trash. Few doubted he had been on the job ten days without a formal contract. Heck, most HBCU people believed those things were true.

My general stance is that standards should be in place to make sure those things are taken care of. That's a general principle. Someone who is responsible for taking care of those things didn't do them for whatever reason. When I said "Ed wasn't wrong" I meant Ed wasn't wrong for pointing those things out.

We all suffer the consequences for how we say things, but WHAT he said. ... wasn't wrong. I've seen HBCU people, PWI Black people, and Black people who didn't go to college agree on that. What he said was true. And TRUTH is the easiest principle to stand on.

So, the principles are RESPONSIBILITY and TRUTH. Someone dropped the ball on their responsibilities. What Ed said was true. Rock solid principles.
 
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BookerJones said:
Guys like Ed could get jobs at a number of PWIs. But, they can skip the line and get head coaching experience at HBCUs because HBCUs need their notoriety, their corporate connections in the way of sponsorships and media attention. Honestly, had Ed stayed coaching in the NFL he might be a DC in the NFL by now.
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lol - only reason Miami had him on staff was due to his efforts on the field and alumni still wanting that 1990s Miami image back hoping it rubs off off on the new generation - if someone wanted him he would've been hired now

what corporate stuff Ed brings? Just cause he's a HOF what power does he have? I've never seen him on anything mainstream - he ain't Strahan lol

he skipped that line cause he was hired by another ex-NBA guy
 
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