WalkWitaPanther
PVAMU c/o 2001
So, is it true that in the 2009 SCG, the school from 14 hours away outdrew the school that was playing in their home state?
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So, is it true that in the 2009 SCG, the school from 14 hours away outdrew the school that was playing in their home state?
JROCK
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The bottom line is no matter where it is.........If it is not The Great Southern University Football Jags vs. jackson state university blue bengals, the probability is high that the average is going to be around the 30K mark (give or take a few thousand). Historically, jsu hasn't traveled well to Houston. However they haven't really had any incentive to do so. It will be interesting to see if the two collide what the numbers will be like. Attendance is down from where it was in the late 90's so.........who knows. The move is good though.....Change is good. I say this from a non bias perspective. It's much easier and cheaper for me to get to B'ham than Houston. And, I could drive back home after the game.
CEE DOG
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No. I guess for a school that hasn't won anything in 50 years yall eyes were just seeing stuff. :emlaugh:
SUjagTILLiDIE
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Thats all of SU away games when SU was winning besides one maybe two schools(Famu and jSU) .
DAHILL
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think logically... you came from Texas... you PLANNED a trip... we are an hour from Birmingham.... and the game was on LIVE tv.... if its raining and cold how many Black folks u think are going to wake up and drive an hour to sit in the rain and cold when the game is on live tv? If you wouldnt have DROVE/Flew to Birmingham you wouldnt have went to the game either.
WalkWitaPanther
PVAMU c/o 2001
Well, if you truly believe that AAMU outdrew us in that game, then this conversation between us, sir, is over...........
CEE DOG
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They just love hearing themselves say stuff on here. :lol:
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
I think an hour drive is worth the risk of rain for a championship game.
DAHILL
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It wasnt just rain.... it was FREEZING rain... not when the game is on live tv. You remember that Alcorn and JSU game that had freezing rain and was empty... it was that kind of freezing rain.
I understand why the people with ties to Alabama are a little upset. Hell the game was in your back yard. I would be upset if the SCG was in Jackson and they moved it. More money coming out of pocket now that game is in TX. The schools from TX have every right to be happy and the people with Bama ties have every reason to be upset. This move wont break attendance records but Houston is a better city than Birmingham.
JSUDMJ2004
JSU enuff said!
Actually I probably would because the city of Jackson doesn't have the right amenities and infrastructure to carry that even right now! Once we get this stadium/dome issue resolved and the hotels built that are in the works then I would say Jackson is the best location. Considering its 3 hours or less from 5 schools in the SWAC. But New Orleans makes the most sense to me!
The 2007 game was majority JSU fans! Grambling fan base did not show up that year at all and it was worse in 2008 with Grambling!
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
I think it's clear what school consistently brought the most fans to Bham and against UAPB and GSU it was by 4-1 and 2-1 margins. We don't have to average 20K more than everyone else BUT we have the fan base and interest to show up when it's time to do so. People want to see JSU vs SU. If we play in Houston, I don't care if it's the 3rd year, we will have the highest attended game. PERIOD. We have the name recognition and fan bases to make it happen. Again, this game was created when only JSU and SU had consistently good teams. If we had gone every 2-3 years, various cities would have been bidding to get us out of Bham. Unfortunately, two of the teams with the smallest fan bases in the conference (AAMU and Grambling) have been the most.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
That was an ice storm. That is on a whole different level than freezing rain. ..and 20K folks showed up to Bham. They just weren't from BAMA. The thing is, AAMU never showed up for SCGs outside of the first time they went so we don't if this bad weather excuse is an excuse or if it's real.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
LOL.. 2007 was a JSU home game. BUT I do expect GSU to represent better in Houston.
JSUDMJ2004
JSU enuff said!
Without doubt its a better city, but the 3rd largest city in America caring about the SCG like BHam would is highly unlikely but atleast they have a bigger mall and more clubs which all most folks in here care about.........
WalkWitaPanther
PVAMU c/o 2001
CEE, if you want to use the "weather" reason for why AAMU didnt show up for that game, then fine. But please don't sit up here and say that y'all had more folks than we did....that's just absurd. And you know that (if you were there).
That yellow orb wasn't in the sky and it was on the magic picture tube in the box.
JR
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Nobody is saying that MH. Folks just were ready to be out of Bham. Now I do think IF the matchup is right, then Houston will draw out the casual HBCU fan for the game who lives in Houston. SU vs JSU would be bigger in Houston than B-ham just due to the numbers of SU folks in Houston/LA next door and the cheap flights to Houston from Jackson via Southwest. Nobody is under the illusion that Reliant will be packed. I would imagine that TxSU and PV both would have more fans at the SCG if they make it than they did in Bham. The only numbers I expect to drop off is the fans who would have to travel from Alabama if either school made it. Surely I wouldn't expect the same turnout. The other advantage is now no one has a weather excuse for not going to the game. Reliant is a retractable roof so that eliminates the weather issue.
Bottom line is the fans no matter where are going to be suspect depending on who is there playing. But just maybe Houston draws out those extra fans of those schools and the HBCU fans in Houston who can just roll to the game and go home afterwards with no issue. Especially for a good matchup. I don't blame B-ham's council for their decision because it makes sense. The comments are whatever so I will not entertain them. It is a reason why Bham has wanted a dome stadium. They know that Legion field is raggedy and they are probably worried about what the MCC will do soon if that stadium does not get redone or they get a dome facility. I can actually see the ATL trying to steal yall's game from B-ham. I would be interested to see how your President and AAMUs president voted. Doesn't sound like it was any big battle over moving. We all know Duer didn't broker this deal without being told. LOL.
But yeah we know Houston is not the end all be all. Just something different after 13 years of Bham.
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JR
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True!
JR
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The city itself is not going to be enamored so to speak. But one thing is for sure. There are a lot of HBCU alums in Houston. So if the SWAC got off their arse, they could make the SCG a big event for the weekend. Just saying.
4BAMASTATE
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JR
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That is it in a nutshell Frat. Houston will still will face the attendance issues depending on matchups that Bham did. But some of the excuses made for not going to the SCG have been eliminated even by fans of the schools who are in the game.
1.Weather
2. Nothing to do after the game
mighty hornet
The HMIC!!
I disagree. Legion Field may not have plush amenities, but I personally don't go to games for plush amenities. Legion Field's parking/tailgating can't be beat.
It was a unanimous decision. I'm not knocking Houston. I just hope folks got their eyes opened that Bham was not the problem with the SCG.
JR
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Thanks 4Bamastate. I missed reading it.
Well that just goes to show all of us that even the Bama Schools presidents and ADs wanted out of Bham.
Case closed.
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