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Jafus (Thinker)

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01/10/03
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SOLOMON CRENSHAW JR.

Birmingham businessman Donald Watkins again plans to help a historically black university make the move to the highest level of collegiate football, and he again has pegged Alabama State coach L.C. Cole as the candidate to lead that move.

Watkins said Thursday that North Carolina A&T had contacted him about implementing the plan he trumpeted unsuccessfully three years ago to make Montgomery's Alabama State University the first historically black university to jump to Division I-A football. He said Cole is a candidate for the Aggies' vacant head coach position and added that Cole would be his choice.

"I do know they're considering him among a couple of other guys," Watkins said. "And I have let it be known that I would look upon his selection in a very favorable manner."

Cole said Thursday he had not been contacted by North Carolina A&T but would have to consider any offer that would help him and his family financially.

"You're always open to opportunities that could come along," he said.

Bill Hayes was relieved of his head coaching duties at A&T, which plays Division I-AA football in the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference, after the 2002 season. He had a year left on his contract at the Greensboro, N.C., school.

Watkins led a campaign in 2000 to take Alabama State's football program from Division I-AA to Division I-A. The lawyer and businessman, then an ASU trustee, brought Cole to Montgomery to lead that change.

That effort ran aground as Watkins met opposition from other members of the ASU Board of Trustees.

Watkins told ASU officials then that he had business partners who would help the Hornets pay for the move to I-A. He said Thursday he has added to that list of potential partners in the course of trying to buy the Anaheim Angels of Major League Baseball.

"If they (North Carolina A&T) make the declaration to go I-A, I'll put my resources at their disposal," Watkins said, adding that his effort to buy the Angels will not stop.

"It's a continuation of what I was trying to do for Alabama State. The difference is my one year of experience out on the Major League Baseball track has introduced me to more people and more corporate relationships and I'll introduce those relationships to the North Carolina A&T officials if they declare intent to go I-A."

Clear advantages:

North Carolina A&T, which is only in the discussion stage about moving up to I-A, has clear advantages over Alabama State as it looks to move to I-A, Watkins said.

"It's a larger institution than Alabama State, they have a board of trustees that's committed to the project, an athletic director who's committed to the project (and) they have foundation people who are actively committed to the project," he said. "At Alabama State, we didn't have a president, we didn't have an athletic director and we had a board that had some members who were adamantly opposed to it and were ultimately politically powerful enough to stop it. And that's OK. That's a viewpoint, and some people are comfortable with the status quo. I'm not."

ASU trustees who opposed the idea said it would be too expensive.

Watkins said Alamerica Bank, which he owns, has offered to sponsor the Southwestern Conference Football Championship Game at Legion Field for the next 10 years. If the SWAC doesn't accept that offer, he said he will quickly offer that money to North Carolina A&T. He would not reveal the amount.

If the SWAC accepts the Alamerica offer, Watkins said he has other businesses that can give money to North Carolina A&T.

"There would be a financial contribution by one of my companies to do the project," he said. "I've got an energy company, I have a land and timber company and a number of financial services companies, so it's just a matter of which one and the nature and scope of the contribution."

Moving to Division I-A would require paying for facility improvements, more scholarships and other expenses.
 
Originally posted by Jafus (Thinker)
Watkins said Cole is a candidate for the Aggies' vacant head coach position and added that Cole would be his choice.

"I do know they're considering him among a couple of other guys," Watkins said. "And I have let it be known that I would look upon his selection in a very favorable manner."

Cole said Thursday he had not been contacted by North Carolina A&T but would have to consider any offer that would help him and his family financially.

"You're always open to opportunities that could come along," he said.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....................I smell a..................PIMPRAT !
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MH, please explain this...................:look:
 



Originally posted by Jafus (Thinker)
Clear advantages:

North Carolina A&T, which is only in the discussion stage about moving up to I-A, has clear advantages over Alabama State as it looks to move to I-A, Watkins said.

"It's a larger institution than Alabama State, they have a board of trustees that's committed to the project, an athletic director who's committed to the project (and) they have foundation people who are actively committed to the project," he said. "At Alabama State, we didn't have a president, we didn't have an athletic director and we had a board that had some members who were adamantly opposed to it and were ultimately politically powerful enough to stop it. And that's OK. That's a viewpoint, and some people are comfortable with the status quo. I'm not."

Why must he expose Alabama View like this???? We already knew this....:emlaugh:
 
beans,
Would you also consider "any offer that would help you and your family financially"? Keep it real and stop holding this guy to a standard that anybody else wouldnt hold himself to.

And as far as not having a president or AD, that is true. When Watkins was on the ASU board, we had an interim President and an interim AD.

As far as the some people being comfortable with the status quo. That is true. Everybody was not for that move.
Everything you read aint smack!



Now, having said that, I will say to A&T,
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read between the lines with Watkins
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Alot of people are going to have the :look: look on their face if they see Watkins pull this off. I am one of the people who has always thought that Watkins knows what he is talking about. He would have pulled it off at Bama St and I think he will pull it off at A&T.
 
Originally posted by DAHILL
Alot of people are going to have the :look: look on their face if they see Watkins pull this off. I am one of the people who has always thought that Watkins knows what he is talking about. He would have pulled it off at Bama St and I think he will pull it off at A&T.
Trust me, I won't be one of those people with the :look: look on my face if A&T is "successful" in moving to 1A.
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet

Trust me, I won't be one of those people with the :look: look on my face if A&T is "successful" in moving to 1A.

I am not just talking about the move.. I am talking about the overall picture included facilities.
 
DAHILL,

I believe that Watkins would have been successful with the stadium, but I do not believe that Bama State would have eventually gone to I-A, even though I was for it at the time. The I-A landscape is changing, and its much harder to get to I-A and stay there, than it used to be.

But I wish A&T all the luck in the world, but I hope that they get there with someone other than LC.
 
I think this time next year ASU alums and fans will be calling for L.C. head. HONESTLY, I dont see why yall think he has dont a good job. THIS IS NOT SMACK.. I have just been thinking about this lately.
 
MH, the guy just said that you were, are, and will be "smalltime" and you say "Everything you read aint smack!"Man, pls.

Then your coach said openly and publicly "You're always open to opportunities that could come along." and this is with a 130K contract. If AT&T hires him, it would not be on the grounds of just money. This guy has openly expressed that he is displeased with Alabama View.........several times. Maybe this why BT is so scared to announce their new coach. He could be "Coleblooded"?!
 
DAHILL,

Let's not turn this into a topic about LC's performance at ASU. If you want to discuss that, then start another thread, and I will gladly discuss/debate it with you.

I will only say that I am one of those people who feel that LC has done a great job at ASU.
 
So this is the hold up for NCAT&T announcing its new head coach?

mh...what do you think about this?

I think this time next year ASU alums and fans will be calling for L.C. head. HONESTLY, I dont see why yall think he has dont a good job. THIS IS NOT SMACK.. I have just been thinking about this lately.
Hill.....

Have you just now been thinking about this?
Coles is 1-5 against his in-state rivals (A&M, Skeege)
He hasnt recruited one soul worth talking about at ASU.
When Dickersons players left, he finished in last place, in his 3rd year....thats significant.
He couldnt recruit players at TSU....he made illegal calls to players that were already on college teams.....hence, TSU has the NCAA on their back.
These are just facts....

BTW He has limited character....(that can be debated)

bornthrilla....mh

What is the deal?
 



Duece...no samck here son.
Yes he can whip JSU....no doubt.
But if thats why you pay him 130K
And you are willing to take all that abuse
Then so be it.
I think the dude hates Bama State
He sticks his head up for every opening
Why do yall let him slap yall around like that?
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It will happen somewhere

Watkins is a billionare who, for whatever reason, likes LC. Watkins is going to push this thing until some goes for it whether its A&T or not. There are not that many HBCU programs close enough to "big time" to do it and do it right. Whoever it is LC is going to be Watkins guy unless Grambling wanted it and Doug is still coaching there.
 
Originally posted by Get Ready

Why do yall let him slap yall around like that?

Get Ready,

I have a better question.

Why do YALL let him slap YALL around like that?
 
Duece, you are really sad. Why do you keep avoiding the question? I mean take a look at MH, BG, Biff, etc...... They have avoided this thread all together since they have realized that Cole is just treating you all like Comegy is treating Tuskeegee. They are just there until they can get where they really want to be. And it is sad that schools like Alabama View and Tuskeegee have to be exploited like that, but at least Tuskeegee is winning Championships while being exploited. What have Cole done for you all?

I dont know. ~shrug shoulders~ Maybe exploitation is just a ritual or tradition in the state of Alabama.
 
lol@Deuce

Originally posted by Get Ready
mh...what do you think about this?
I think its a bunch of crock!
LC has completed three seasons at ASU, two seasons with winning records, with the best record in the East, one tied for the top in the East and one 6-6 year.
Is everything all great? No it isnt
Have we improved since he got there? Yup, absolutely NO doubt about that. If you take off your smack cap for a second, surely you would agree with that. That's a no brainer. I mean, you aint got to like LC, but again I say, keep it real


While there may have been some guys left over from the Dickerson era that Cole initially won with, but dont deny Cole's part in developing those guys. Heck, Cole took those guys, plugged his offense in, and we had the leading passer and leading rusher during the same year.

btw, I knew it was just a matter of time before this thread turned into the typical bash LC session by the jsu folks. I guess those 5 straight arse whoopings are really wearing yall down!
 
Re: lol@Deuce

Originally posted by mighty hornet
btw, I knew it was just a matter of time before this thread turned into the typical bash LC session by the jsu folks. I guess those 5 straight arse whoopings are really wearing yall down!

Well, it is no different from a Robert Kent's thread or a JSU thread with Alabama View posters.

Taking "Smack Hat" off, like MH said......
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Alabama State have improved like you said. But, what can Cole do with his own talent? That is the question. Now since Dickerson's boys have left, is Cole going to REALLY try to recruit some players or wait till players transfer or just try to leave this program? I do not hold Cole in high esteem when it comes to certain things. True, he had some players to pick up on his system real quick and was really effective (ex. Kennedy), but what happens when there are players that dont pick up on his system and he could not recruit the ones that could (ex. Brashears)? In my opinion, Cole is one of the worst recruiters since Hughes. But, Hughes did go out and recruited a kicker and a punter. Too bad that he never have them spending some time practicing what they do best. Cole, just seems to me to be a person that can take the talent that another man have and add to it and perfect it. But when it comes to finding his own talent, he's at the bottom of the barrell. And to me MH, thats the REAL.

Now to put my hat back on................
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You all are being PIMPED to the highest degree. Why did this man publicly announced that he is searching and looking at job openings? And he is willing to go as far as North Carolina...............
 
LMAO@you for that post.

For anybody who didnt already know that you were clueless, now they do.
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"what happens when there are players that dont pick up his system"
"but Hughes did recruit a kicker and a punter"

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

You really need to let the ole school mafia make comments and you just quote em and laugh at em like you normally do!
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Now back to the topic,
Watkins.......
bahahahahahahahah
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mh

No smack....

Before Coles got there you were in second place.
At this very moment, you are in last place.
Do you call that progress?
Now wait.
Dickerson's record is misleading.
He actually played a competitive schedule
I think he played Troy almost every year.
Coles has been playing a very soft schedule every since he has had the chance to influence the schedule.....but you still think you are in a better position now than before he got there?
You dont think that Dickerson could have beaten Miles, Savanah, UTC, and MoB?
Didnt Dickerson go 6-5 with a competitive schedule?
He had a bad year when Kennedy got hurt, with a competitive schedule, but what did Coles do without Kennedy?
But you cant think that second or third place is better than last place....do you?
 
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