Swac Football Attendance - Week 6


We'll see if Sam Houston falls off after this season when the starting QB and RBs are lost to graduation.
 
Atlanta Football Classic: 35,412 (SCST vs NC A&T)

FYI that's pretty weak considering the height that this classic grew to.......
 
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Alcorn's attendance numbers have been off the last two games. Not sure what method is used to count attendance but it's not based off of the turnstile count.
 
C-LeB28 said:
We'll see if Sam Houston falls off after this season when the starting QB and RBs are lost to graduation.
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That is not true!!!!!! Winning is an important factor, but other things factor in. Some schools just have bigger followings that others and some games are more marketable than others. For example, ASU and AAMU can be 0-(however many they played combined) and they will get at least 40K in that raggady staduim in Birmingham.
 
The 2,186 is wrong for the ASU-TSU game. Since it was TSU's Homecoming, one would have thought it would have been more fans there. The stadium alone, because of its look and attractiveness should have done the job. It's was sad sitting in the stadium and witnessing this for myself. My estimation would be more around 500 and that's pushing it.
 
Storm96 said:
Need us for what? Clearly there's no correlation between attendance and good football when it comes to FCS.
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To help with recruiting. Northwestern brought in a lot of recruits for that game, as that's the only game they will have a great crowd. Recruits aren't impressed with empty stadiums. Last season SU had the highest rated FCS class in Louisiana. If you have a advantage, why even give your competition a chance to cut into it.
 
JAG89 said:
There are three SWAC schools that are in the top 20, but not one Southland Conference school. Somehow, SWAC schools should use attendance as means of marketing and recruiting athletes. If it was the other way around, .
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You think these kids care that we have 3 schools in the top 20 of FCS in attendance? One conference averages about 15K fans and the other averages around 12K - how can you use that "advantage" in recruiting? Its all smalltime to them.
 
JSU/99 said:
You think these kids care that we have 3 schools in the top 20 of FCS in attendance? One conference averages about 15K fans and the other averages around 12K - how can you use that "advantage" in recruiting? Its all smalltime to them.
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So are you say the recruits SU brought in for the SU/JSU game wasn't impressed by the crowd and atmosphere compared to going to a Southeastern or Nicholls game with 2,000. You can't tell me it doesn't make a difference. That's why in the past, in the 90's, SU and Gram were able to out recruit ULL, ULM, and Tulane for some kids.
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
To help with recruiting. Northwestern brought in a lot of recruits for that game, as that's the only game they will have a great crowd. Recruits aren't impressed with empty stadiums. Last season SU had the highest rated FCS class in Louisiana. If you have a advantage, why even give your competition a chance to cut into it.
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I'm sure recruits were more impressed with Northwestern beating you guys 55-17 more than anything. That's far more detrimental to Southern than an empty stadium when it comes to recruiting. I just fail to see how the original assertion that the Southland needs the SWAC applies here when it comes to attendance. There aren't very many SWAC vs Southland matchups to begin with so it seems some of their teams have done just fine averaging less fans than SWAC schools.
 
Storm96 said:
I'm sure recruits were more impressed with Northwestern beating you guys 55-17 more than anything. That's far more detrimental to Southern than an empty stadium when it comes to recruiting. I just fail to see how the original assertion that the Southland needs the SWAC applies here when it comes to attendance. There aren't very many SWAC vs Southland matchups to begin with so it seems some of their teams have done just fine averaging less fans than SWAC schools.
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Well let me rephrase the statement, Louisiana Southland schools all want to play SU, so we can help them with their gate and recruiting. The bad part of that game was SU has more talent than Northwestern. SU coaches fell our players and fans in that game, with that BS game plan. That whole game was discussed on Jaguar Journal Saturday, and everyone seemed to agree it was the coaches fault.
 
Ark-Pine Bluff at Jackson State
Attendance: 9087
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Now that is weak as hell as for paying customers. Don't make sense on a pretty weekend like it was Saturday. There will be more than 9000 JSU fans trying to bums rush Valley this weekend. :smh:
 



JSU/99 said:
You think these kids care that we have 3 schools in the top 20 of FCS in attendance? One conference averages about 15K fans and the other averages around 12K - how can you use that "advantage" in recruiting? Its all smalltime to them.
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The SLC doesn't average 12k. It's probably more like 8k. Even though it might be smalltime, a lot of those kids will not be recruited by big time conference, therefore the SWAC needs convince them that they would get a little more exposure playing in the SWAC instead of those other smalltime conferences. I'm sure those other smalltime conferences would do the same if the shoe was on the other foot.
 
Robber said:
I think Alcorn's and our attendance was affected by the threat of the tropical storm. There weren't a whole lot of high schoolers at the game. I know folk who stayed home because they didn't wanna get caught in a storm, even though the skies were beautiful for most of the day. We did wind up getting wet for a few minutes twice.
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I agree with you on that aspect plus Warner was a school that no one has heard of since this is their first year of existance. Still, that is no excuse for us not to support our schools. Although, I had to change my plans due to work, from the pics I 've seen and by family, it was way more that what the numbers state. Plus, spoke with a campus official who stated the numbers were inaccourate but they did not elaborate. Inyd, I will be there...

I would say is HBCUs schools need those who are experienced in game-day activities. You got to make it fun and exciting for the fans. We don't have those old schoolers who would supported no matter what. Students don't go to games anymore and the even the D1 schools have noticed a decline. Mercer opened their season and it was just exciting to be there. They had so much going on with freebies, etc. Nice stadium too. Alabama State has a very nice facility but those $35 tix looks to be a killer.
 
HORNETSWARM said:
The 2,186 is wrong for the ASU-TSU game. Since it was TSU's Homecoming, one would have thought it would have been more fans there. The stadium alone, because of its look and attractiveness should have done the job. It's was sad sitting in the stadium and witnessing this for myself. My estimation would be more around 500 and that's pushing it.
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Wow. Did you take pics?
 
I see now, some of our schools rather threw in the towel and say screw it when it comes to using whatever angle to recruit better talent, but I understand their mentality, especially when their stadium only seats 9k. But like P used to always say, it's a damn shame to have the worst facilities in Division I football.
 
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HORNETSWARM said:
The 2,186 is wrong for the ASU-TSU game. Since it was TSU's Homecoming, one would have thought it would have been more fans there. The stadium alone, because of its look and attractiveness should have done the job. It's was sad sitting in the stadium and witnessing this for myself. My estimation would be more around 500 and that's pushing it.
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JAG89 said:
I see now, some of our schools rather threw in the towel and say screw it when it comes to using whatever angle to recruit better talent, but I understand their mentality, especially when their stadium only seats 9k. But like P used to always say, it's a damn shame to have the worst facilities in Division I football.
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Well let me rephrase the statement, Louisiana Southland schools all want to play SU, so we can help them with their gate and recruiting. The bad part of that game was SU has more talent than Northwestern. SU coaches fell our players and fans in that game, with that BS game plan. That whole game was discussed on Jaguar Journal Saturday, and everyone seemed to agree it was the coaches fault.
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Ok whatever. So explain how this perceived recruiting advantage when it comes to attendance translates into tangible, on-field results for SU.
 
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SUjagTILLiDIE said:
So are you say the recruits SU brought in for the SU/JSU game wasn't impressed by the crowd and atmosphere compared to going to a Southeastern or Nicholls game with 2,000. You can't tell me it doesn't make a difference. That's why in the past, in the 90's, SU and Gram were able to out recruit ULL, ULM, and Tulane for some kids.
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Storm96 said:
Ok whatever. So explain how this perceived recruiting advantage when it comes to attendance translates into tangible, on-field results for SU.
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Coaching. Bottom line. Coaching. Any coach would love to play in front of a good fan base no matter who the coach is. Big school or small school. You think ND State coach would still be there if he had no fans showing up even when winning?

Some schools are actually winning and have no fans coming. Yall know damn well if SU is winning the games are packed. Even when we are not, it is still more than pretty much everybody in the SWAC not named JSU. The problem for SU is not the players. It has been coaching. Why you think Heish wanted that job so bad outside of it being his alma mater. Same reason Doug wanted to sneak in the back door before we hired Stump. Kids want to see a lot of things. They want to see wins, they want to be able to play pretty soon, they like to see some facilities and of course they want to see some fans in the stands. How do you think those TxSU kids feel everytime they walk into their home stadium? You think the kids in the local area want to go play there looking at that? Just saying.
 
Lewis said:
That is not true!!!!!! Winning is an important factor, but other things factor in. Some schools just have bigger followings that others and some games are more marketable than others. For example, ASU and AAMU can be 0-(however many they played combined) and they will get at least 40K in that raggady staduim in Birmingham.
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Did you use the wrong quote? :confused:
 
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