New Commissioner holds teams for players' actions
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JR
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Re: Don't make one man out of example in NFL
New owner? LOL you mean new Commish. What crap has been going on for years? The NFL has been pretty good at getting rid of their problem children. The only thing the NFL may have covered up over the years and back in the day was the steroid use and maybe illegal drug use. But hell even cats like Lawrence Taylor didn't start getting arrested until after he left football. LOL. Maybe instead of making it rain, he paid off cops in NY to leave him the fugg alone.
BTW, as C-Leb alluded too.........How is the Mickey Dean watch going? Tell him don't be hanging around Pac Man Jones if he still wants to be the first rb drafted. :hat:
New owner? LOL you mean new Commish. What crap has been going on for years? The NFL has been pretty good at getting rid of their problem children. The only thing the NFL may have covered up over the years and back in the day was the steroid use and maybe illegal drug use. But hell even cats like Lawrence Taylor didn't start getting arrested until after he left football. LOL. Maybe instead of making it rain, he paid off cops in NY to leave him the fugg alone.
BTW, as C-Leb alluded too.........How is the Mickey Dean watch going? Tell him don't be hanging around Pac Man Jones if he still wants to be the first rb drafted. :hat:
Blacknbengal
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Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
I ain't an NFL player nor a professional athlete. We can't do a lot of things they get away with on the job.
I ain't an NFL player nor a professional athlete. We can't do a lot of things they get away with on the job.
Blacknbengal
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Goodell strengthens personal conduct policy
NEW YORK (AP) - NFL teams will be disciplined when their employees, including players, violate the league's personal conduct policy.
Moments after announcing the one-year suspension of Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones, and an eight-game ban for Cincinnati Bengals receiver Chris Henry, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell released his strengthened conduct policy Tuesday. Along with longer suspensions and larger fines for individuals who violate the policy, Goodell will hold teams responsible, as well.
He did not say how he would punish those teams, although stripping them of draft choices is considered one of the most effective ways to do so.
"It is important that the NFL be represented consistently by outstanding people as well as great football players, coaches, and staff," Goodell said. "We hold ourselves to higher standards of responsible conduct because of what it means to be part of the National Football League. We have long had policies and programs designed to encourage responsible behavior, and this policy is a further step in ensuring that everyone who is part of the NFL meets that standard. We will continue to review the policy and modify it as warranted."
The strengthened standards apply to all NFL employees: players, coaches, officials, owners, front-office and league personnel. And Goodell emphasized in the new policy that those standards will be considerably tighter than outside the league.
"It is not enough to simply avoid being found guilty of a crime," the new policy says. "Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the league is based, and is lawful.
"Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime."
The new policy comes in the wake of a series of off-field issues involving several players, notably Jones, Henry and Chicago Bears defensive tackle Tank Johnson.
There were 10 occasions in which Jones was interviewed by police, the most recent during the NBA All-Star weekend in Las Vegas. Police there recommended felony and misdemeanor charges against Jones after a fight and shooting at a strip club left one man paralyzed.
Henry was arrested four times in a 14-month span, and received a two-game league suspension last year. He was one of nine Bengals arrested in nine months. Johnson currently is in jail, serving four months for violating probation in a 2005 gun case.
Two of Henry's teammates, along with NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw, recognized the need for stronger league guidelines for player conduct.
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NEW YORK (AP) - NFL teams will be disciplined when their employees, including players, violate the league's personal conduct policy.
Moments after announcing the one-year suspension of Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones, and an eight-game ban for Cincinnati Bengals receiver Chris Henry, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell released his strengthened conduct policy Tuesday. Along with longer suspensions and larger fines for individuals who violate the policy, Goodell will hold teams responsible, as well.
He did not say how he would punish those teams, although stripping them of draft choices is considered one of the most effective ways to do so.
"It is important that the NFL be represented consistently by outstanding people as well as great football players, coaches, and staff," Goodell said. "We hold ourselves to higher standards of responsible conduct because of what it means to be part of the National Football League. We have long had policies and programs designed to encourage responsible behavior, and this policy is a further step in ensuring that everyone who is part of the NFL meets that standard. We will continue to review the policy and modify it as warranted."
The strengthened standards apply to all NFL employees: players, coaches, officials, owners, front-office and league personnel. And Goodell emphasized in the new policy that those standards will be considerably tighter than outside the league.
"It is not enough to simply avoid being found guilty of a crime," the new policy says. "Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the league is based, and is lawful.
"Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime."
The new policy comes in the wake of a series of off-field issues involving several players, notably Jones, Henry and Chicago Bears defensive tackle Tank Johnson.
There were 10 occasions in which Jones was interviewed by police, the most recent during the NBA All-Star weekend in Las Vegas. Police there recommended felony and misdemeanor charges against Jones after a fight and shooting at a strip club left one man paralyzed.
Henry was arrested four times in a 14-month span, and received a two-game league suspension last year. He was one of nine Bengals arrested in nine months. Johnson currently is in jail, serving four months for violating probation in a 2005 gun case.
Two of Henry's teammates, along with NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw, recognized the need for stronger league guidelines for player conduct.
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Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
Which once again this is a GOOD thing. Just because you are a pro athlete, an entertainer , politician - whatever...that makes you no better than me. As my grandfather would say - I put my pants on one leg at a time just like you. If I were deemed a menance at my job - whether I have been arrested or not - but I continue to do things that bring embarrassment to my employer - they will get rid of me without blinking an eye. As much as we would not like to think of it - we are all replaceable - quickly. So you must do what you have to do to maintain your place, at the least.
I won so much money from fools when Clarett was tryin to sue the NFL to go pro. The NFL or any other league has the right to set the terms for employment with them. The position of NFL Player has a job description just like any other job any place else -and if the Requirments for employment for that particular position state that you have to at the very least stay off of the police blotter for 2 consecutive months - then you have to adhear to that. You cant sue them for RULES for employment with their company. You can sue them for LAWS that might be violated when it comes to terms for employment with their company - but to this point the NFL has not violated any LAWS along those lines.
Which once again this is a GOOD thing. Just because you are a pro athlete, an entertainer , politician - whatever...that makes you no better than me. As my grandfather would say - I put my pants on one leg at a time just like you. If I were deemed a menance at my job - whether I have been arrested or not - but I continue to do things that bring embarrassment to my employer - they will get rid of me without blinking an eye. As much as we would not like to think of it - we are all replaceable - quickly. So you must do what you have to do to maintain your place, at the least.
I won so much money from fools when Clarett was tryin to sue the NFL to go pro. The NFL or any other league has the right to set the terms for employment with them. The position of NFL Player has a job description just like any other job any place else -and if the Requirments for employment for that particular position state that you have to at the very least stay off of the police blotter for 2 consecutive months - then you have to adhear to that. You cant sue them for RULES for employment with their company. You can sue them for LAWS that might be violated when it comes to terms for employment with their company - but to this point the NFL has not violated any LAWS along those lines.
JR
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Wow, now even the teams will be fined or stripped of draft choices. Sounds like the commish got the backing from players, players union and coaches like Dungy. It will be interesting to see how many kids sit by the phone waiting to be drafted if they have a checkered past already. Not to many teams can afford to lose draft choices. But like Dungy said, fines and suspension to just the players were not enough. Now these GMs and owners have to really be careful who they pick up on their teams. Should be interesting.
dacontinent
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JR
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Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
Co-Sign.........too bad the NBA don't have the balls like the NFL. They should make these kids wait at least 2 years from graduating HS. Employers have the right to set standards on who can be employed with them as long as it not based on race, sex, religion, creed or color. The basic descrimination laws.Otherwise these sports leagues aint no different than any other employer. All this blocking the right to work stuff was a crock anyway. Score another one for the NFL.
Co-Sign.........too bad the NBA don't have the balls like the NFL. They should make these kids wait at least 2 years from graduating HS. Employers have the right to set standards on who can be employed with them as long as it not based on race, sex, religion, creed or color. The basic descrimination laws.Otherwise these sports leagues aint no different than any other employer. All this blocking the right to work stuff was a crock anyway. Score another one for the NFL.
Jacy
No Tests, No Testimony
Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
This is business, not personal. Football is all about business-this Pac and Chris as an example is all about the business.
What we have all learned in the corporate, or government working world is there is a set of rules that are written and a set unseen. And we all have learned to flow with the game, and keep our jobs at the same time. We couldn't do ANY of that mess and blame on it on the crowd we run with, let alone trying to act like we didn't know the game was there to begin with.
And if I were the new commish I still would have made him the example.
This is business, not personal. Football is all about business-this Pac and Chris as an example is all about the business.
What we have all learned in the corporate, or government working world is there is a set of rules that are written and a set unseen. And we all have learned to flow with the game, and keep our jobs at the same time. We couldn't do ANY of that mess and blame on it on the crowd we run with, let alone trying to act like we didn't know the game was there to begin with.
Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
But isn't 8 games a serious example? It would be the first anyway. Jamal Lewis was suspended 4 games after a CONVICTION and PRISON time served.
But isn't 8 games a serious example? It would be the first anyway. Jamal Lewis was suspended 4 games after a CONVICTION and PRISON time served.
Blacknbengal
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Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
Did you say "Time served"? Pacman should just serve his time and "keep it moving".
Did you say "Time served"? Pacman should just serve his time and "keep it moving".
Jacy
No Tests, No Testimony
Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
Thinking like the Business (commish and coach) I would cut him loose early...by keeping him at home for a year while all this stuff goes to wash. That way, the team gets to concentrate on playing-the Bengals did quite well last year, and I get to show the rest of the league, by example, if you wanna act a fool, to make sure you do it in private and make sure your peoples know how to keep your business to themselves.
Las Vegas police may bring (more?) charges to Pac behind the shooting at the strip club. What he had to do with it is still not concrete, beyond the rain dance. I can't speak to what happened cause I wasn't there. But a man got paralyzed, and somebody has to take the fall for that.
Thinking like the Business (commish and coach) I would cut him loose early...by keeping him at home for a year while all this stuff goes to wash. That way, the team gets to concentrate on playing-the Bengals did quite well last year, and I get to show the rest of the league, by example, if you wanna act a fool, to make sure you do it in private and make sure your peoples know how to keep your business to themselves.
Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
Yeah the person who shot him.
But really look at it... Tank Johnson is in jail right now and not suspended. Many other players have been CONVICTED of crimes and not suspended.
8 games would have been an "example" too.
Yeah the person who shot him.
But really look at it... Tank Johnson is in jail right now and not suspended. Many other players have been CONVICTED of crimes and not suspended.
8 games would have been an "example" too.
Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
What's the signifcance of 8 games vs a whole season?
What's the signifcance of 8 games vs a whole season?
Jacy
No Tests, No Testimony
Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
Mr. Mayor: Hey GT, I see you've skipped probation, slapped a cop, and caused a riot at a club?
GT: Uhhh, yea. I gotta get this call.
Mr. Mayor: Uh, hold up there sista, sign this. We are gonna send you home, without pay, for a year.
GT: :goof:
Mr. Mayor: Yea, we'll see you back here in 12 monthes.
GT: :angry:
How many of us could bring all this drama out in the public and still have a job to go to after a year? After 8 months.
Mr. Mayor: Hey GT, I see you've skipped probation, slapped a cop, and caused a riot at a club?
GT: Uhhh, yea. I gotta get this call.
Mr. Mayor: Uh, hold up there sista, sign this. We are gonna send you home, without pay, for a year.
GT: :goof:
Mr. Mayor: Yea, we'll see you back here in 12 monthes.
GT: :angry:
Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
I know that, but why would you want to be so lenient on him? You have to start somewhere........why not now?
It would sure make alot of them protect their public image while NOT on the job.
I know that, but why would you want to be so lenient on him? You have to start somewhere........why not now?
It would sure make alot of them protect their public image while NOT on the job.
Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
Keep calling in missing time from work because you are either in jail or have to appear in court on numerous occasions......the unemployment office will be waiting with open arms....:goof:
Keep calling in missing time from work because you are either in jail or have to appear in court on numerous occasions......the unemployment office will be waiting with open arms....:goof:
Re: Jones suspended for season!!!!
That's my point... we will get fired quick for many things they might do... they won't. A player refuses to report, he probably will still have a job in the league... if we refuse to report, we're done.
We can't compare our jobs to professional athletics.
That's my point... we will get fired quick for many things they might do... they won't. A player refuses to report, he probably will still have a job in the league... if we refuse to report, we're done.
We can't compare our jobs to professional athletics.