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JSTUS

THE WARHORSES!!!
All I can do is SMH. STOP THE VIOLENCE!!!
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October 22, 2001
SU Band Members on Probation for Alleged Hazing Incident


It's possible you won't see the 'human jukebox' at this year's Bayou Classic in New Orleans -- or possibly any other game for that matter. That's *if* -- *if* band members are involved in any more incidents like the one they're being warned about right now. The band has been put on probation by the school because of hazing. The alleged hazing happened in August. School officials say two band members hit a freshman band member on the back with drumsticks and forced him to do excessive exercises - which resulted in a knee injury. Those incidents have resulted in the entire band being placed on probation for the rest of this semester.

With an off week for the Jaguars, the human jukebox performed at Sunday's Saints game. They're scheduled to be in Shreveport Saturday for S-U's game with Mississippi Valley. But university officials are keeping tabs on band members after alleged hazing incidents. Dean of student life Bob Bennett said, "if anything happens, they'll be suspended indefinitely." Bennett says it'll be his decision if the university stops the band from playing. Bennett added, "the reason I included the entire band, as I told you before, is because there were others who mentioned that this had occurred so the probation is more of a warning than a punishment."

School officials say band director Dr. Isaac Greggs originally had the two band members arrested in September. The pair of unnamed juniors face simple battery charges. We're told the victim - the freshman - has withdrawn from school and had to have knee surgery as a result of injuries he suffered. The band is a mainstay at all football games but not playing in the stands wouldn't be a first. The SWAC suspended the Southern band after an on-field fight at Prairieview A and M back in 1998.
 



So what. They should have have put that punk azz kid out the band along with the hazers. When I was at SU all the SWAC bands kicked azz to be in the band. Including GSU. I know my PSI bros at Episilon Rho didn't BS back in the day. After watching million dollar players go through hazing rituals on HBO at the Ravens camp, I know some punk kid could do a few pushups. The drum sticks was extreme if it happened. Also it sure is strange about the knee surgery deal. All this happened weeks ago and no mention about any knee being injured. Stories sure do change after a few weeks.

I guess bands would have got the death penalty if they had known what was going on back in the day. I am tired of all of this telling Mama ish. I don't advocate violence, but from reading this report in the school paper and conferring with the students, this is some bull**** I have been hazed in HS band, baseball, SU band, I pledged, it happened in the Navy as an officer, on my submarine. So WTF is this such a big deal now. As long as it doesn't get out of control. That crap is small time.

Leave it to some GSU mofos to even bring it up. Like it it ain't happening at GSU in their band. Just no punk azz kid has told yet. SMH. Hell we need to bring to old school way of doing things back.Maybe our bands would be better than they are now. SMH again.

I know other old heads feel me on that. Too bad some folks have took it too far and really hurt people and caused all the schools to panic now due to law suits. Just my too cents. I can't stand all this baby ish and crying to mama and daddy. Just think if our football players did this. They are probably laughing at this ish. Old school please send help.
 
Here they come....the SU haters are at it again

So now I guess SU is the only school that gets into a fight....none of you other schools ever have issues huh.


SMH @ you....:rolleyes:
 
Gram people living in glass houses should check themselves before throwing stones. Just a warning! ;)
 
Band Hazing

JSTUS, girl you are crazy. Yeah, Bayou Classic is going to be on-point! SU is going down.

On another note: I bet my annual salary that band members are being hazed in almost every black college band. I always felt that it was unfair that the universities came down hard on Greeks, but pretend there is no such thing as band hazing.:redhot:
 
Re: Here they come....the SU haters are at it again

Originally posted by Dtown Jag
So now I guess SU is the only school that gets into a fight....none of you other schools ever have issues huh.SMH @ you....:rolleyes:

No, SU isn't the only school that have issues. I think that this was brought up because of the fight between SU and PV band. Something like...Stop the Violence....
 
This is pitiful.

JR, I agree with you. I know for a fact, beyond the shadow of doubt. If he / she was going to become a member of the "crat's" "back in the day" . You're ----- right there was going to be a little "just a little" hazing. :emlaugh:.

The mama & daddies are raising to many wimps and mama babies. A suppose to be man, can not pledge a frat. without crying "he touched me" If they are that weak, stay away from a man's world. I am so tired these "so called men" acting like a cry baby.

At the same time, every organization has to be careful not to hurt anyone or draw negative publicity.
 
It doesn't matter whose band it is. It matters that it is an HBCU and it is NEGATIVE news. Just because we may have went through whatever old school doesn't mean that it is right. The administration knew about it then, but turned their heads. It's a different story now when you release the info. to the media.
The article may have gotten more bigger picture response on the roundtable. Moderators send help.
 
Gramtigresss,
You are right. No organization should be treated any different.
The band, Frats or Sororities, sports teams, etc. It has been unfair that certain organizations have felt the wrath and others don't. You are on point with that.

Even this situatuion with the SU band, I am sure there are political motivations to get at Doc from some in administration when there are others doing the same(hazing). I sure would like to see if Bennett has the guts to pull the plug on the band for the BC if another incident arises. Battle of the Bands has at least 40k on Friday night before the BC. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
Guess you didn't see the part about the knee surgery. Now who's responsible for the medical bills.??

JR, I doubt they'll go through either with the Bayou Classic suspension. The whole thing is a definite warning though for all schools, bands, etc. Any jury in BR will definitely award a big sum to a plaintiff for injuries like this if a suit develops.
 
SMH @ "excessive exercises". I thought there was no such thing. Just marching in a halftime show could be considered excessive exercises by many. :rolleyes:
 
Have you noticed that only gram folks post band stuff on the smack board? Stop peekin on the children. Guess when you don't have scoreboard you have to smack on something. S_ _.

Post the president sex life over here>>>>>>>>>>>>
Post the porta _ potties over here >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now post the score board over here>>>>>>>>>>>>>

SMH.
 
JSTUS,
At first I did not see the knee surgery part. I went back and edited my post. I however knew about the incident 2 weeks ago and read about it in the SU Digest. No knee surgery info was given then and there was a different story.

Now if he was injured and needs surgery the school has to pay or the individuals who did it. I just hate when stories change and the facts change. It is hard to believe who then. I have seen folks get opportunistic once they see there is money to be made.
No one deserves to hit in the knee if that happened, but if his knee gave way because he had to do extra pushups, then we have a problem. I'll leave it alone until I get the real facts if that 's even possible. It is unfortunate that things like this happens, but I hate for people to think this only happens at SU.
The PV thing was bad enough. This is not on that level. That's why I don't like to smack about stuff like this. It could happen at any school and the hazing is most definitely going at all HBCU bands and the PWC's as well.
 



Originally posted by JR
JSTUS,
It could happen at any school and the hazing is most definitely going at all HBCU bands and the PWC's as well.

I agree. It happens in high schools too, especially historically black ones like I went to and that my brother is in the drum section at now.
 
Why the hell you jags are so upset? I thought anything was fair game with smack? I know dayum well you didn't expect us to paint a rosy picture of yall mofos. Now JR wanna come on like he's the only guy who ever took wood. Colonel Flagg is all bent out of shape cuz we said something about SU.

Hell, it's just smack people! Don't kill the messenger...of course we haze at GSU. But our female band members are tougher than those fellas yall got in SU's band.
 
LOL@Mike Bigg.
Way to come in and ligten things up. You're right everything is up for smack. That Colonel Flagg smack is classic. Didn't know you were a MASH fan.

BTW,
I never said I took any wood.........I said I pledged.....~snicker~

KKPSI don't haze.
 
Originally posted by JR
It is unfortunate that things like this happens, but I hate for people to think this only happens at SU.
The PV thing was bad enough. This is not on that level. That's why I don't like to smack about stuff like this. It could happen at any school and the hazing is most definitely going at all HBCU bands and the PWC's as well.

Come on JR! We all know better. We all know this isn't something that just happens at SU. I think something earlier in the year happen at Alcorn. We just do it to push those SU buttons.

But your arse is a dayum pro at damage control. You need to get into the PR business. - LOL!!!

Its all good though!
 
JSTUS, the article said that Dr. Greggs had the 2 responsible arrested, and that they're facing battery charges, wouldn't that be considered as actions taken?

NICE
 
SOG,
Yeah you guys do a good job of pushing buttons. I just try to add a little spin to the situation to diffuse any SU directed smack. Maybe I'll change my name to SU Spindoctor. LOL

BTW,
Is it just me or are the only people on the board right now is SU and GSU people. Isn't this Magic City week for the Bamas? Where is Tissue? I see a few Mafia members. It looks like the real SCG is going to be the BC. So I guess this is pre-BC smack a month early.
 
Post that pic of "crying Eddie" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over here
and watch the hair rise on the back of grumbling's neck.

:emlaugh: :emlaugh: :emlaugh:
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Greatmess

I can push some buttons too, but I'll wait. Hope for those attending the homecoming they stop by the alumni office and the interim president office and check on what's going on.
 
It has been my experience that you always have to watch one or two guys when hazing is about to happened. They become monsters for some reason. The problem is that no one is in charge like in the old days. When we had visitors from other campuses who came to turnback night, they could not participate in the initiation or hazing. If anyone started anything that would get someone hurt they were not allowed to continue working with the guys.

There is no one in charge. The person who is elected to be in charge is normally leading the beatings.

The President was the President and took charge.
 
MD,
You are absolutely correct. I couldn't have said it better. We did alot more ish than these cats do now. We just were in control because we had leaders that would not allow any outlandish stuff. But believe me we paid some dues.
 
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