It's SU's bed, and now it has to sleep in it


Jafus (Thinker)

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Posted by Golden Kitten on the Onnidan board.

From the Baton Rouge Advocate...

http://2theadvocate.com/stories/112904/spo_joecol001.shtml

It's SU's bed, and now it has to sleep in it

By JOE SCHIEFELBEIN
[email protected]
Advocate sports writer

Maybe this is justice.

That doesn't make it any easier on the Southern players.

But there it is.

Southern and UAPB should have played on the field to decide the Western Division representative in the Southwestern Athletic Conference title game on Dec. 11. The SWAC should have made two divisional foes play each other.

Neither happened.

Now, there's this: 20th-ranked SU (8-3, 6-1 SWAC), the defending swac champ, has to wait while UAPB (6-2, 5-1) plays at Eastern Division champ Alabama State (8-2, 6-1) on Saturday.

If UAPB wins, SU and UAPB will be co-Western Division champions, but the Golden Lions go to the title game for the first time. That's because UAPB won its three divisional games, while Southern, with Saturday's 24-13 loss to Grambling, went 2-1 in divisional play.

The odds are pretty good for UAPB this week.

The Golden Lions have been off since Nov. 6. And Alabama State coach Charlie Coe has said all along -- and nobody can blame him for being honest -- that he's not going to go all out, not with playing the Turkey Day Classic, then Saturday and then in the title game.

Why should Alabama State play, in effect, two SWAC title games, beating UAPB to get to Southern?

What's the incentive to have a rematch with SU? The Hornets have lost to SU three times in the last two seasons, including not being able to close the deal with a 20-point, fourth-quarter lead at home last month.

This is the SWAC, where the rule is you do things out of your school's self interest. That's much like the rest of the world these days: Do your own thing regardless of whether that's the right thing.

That's the rule Southern has played by. That's the attitude, the hubris, that got SU, as an institution, into this jam.

Southern ducked out of playing UAPB in the spring, when the Jaguars could have played its Western Division rival the week before the Bayou Classic.

Southern balked at playing UAPB in the Gateway Classic. Not enough cash, SU said. Problem was SU had already cleared the way for that Sept. 25 game. Then, gosh, there was a scheduling problem. As if the date of a classic is going to change.

So, SU cited the inability of Texas Southern and Jackson State, teams in opposite divisions, not playing as a reason not compelling the Jaguars to play UAPB, its divisional foe. And the SWAC Council of Presidents rubber-stamped the foolishness. After that decision, Alcorn State jumped on the bandwagon and lopped off UAPB as well -- in order to play in a classic the Braves lost.

The SWAC tried to get all its teams to find a way to have those three games, but that effort, in June, failed.

So now Southern stews in the pot it brought to a boil.


None of this assumes SU would have beaten UAPB head-to-head. That game could very well have gone the way of the Bayou Classic, considering the Golden Lions pound the ball on the ground better than anybody else in the conference.

And none of this assumes Alabama State won't win anyway. After all, Southern has been a comeback king all season. This might rank as the ultimate comeback. Meanwhile, the clock will tick just a little slower this week on The Bluff.

The heart goes out to the Southern players. They've done so much, sometimes with seemingly so little, this season.

However, for Southern as an institution, maybe a week of sweating is what it deserves.
 



Excellent article!!! I agree with what he's saying, starting with the topic!! :tup:


Jafus (Thinker) said:
Alabama State coach Charlie Coe has said all along -- and nobody can blame him for being honest -- that he's not going to go all out, not with playing the Turkey Day Classic, then Saturday and then in the title game.
Why should Alabama State play, in effect, two SWAC title games
:tup::tup:
well nobody who is objective can blame him
 
Ol boy hit it right on the head...funny how the SUcks poster haven't post any of there GAF bullisht here
 
Nobody in the Jag Nation disagrees with the article. The truth is the truth! GR pointed all of this foolishness out (with a few others) about the SWAC HQ not having balls. So what do you want from us? To admit it is true? You got it! To admit we caused it? Hell no! EVERYBODY played a part in it! Folks not being in the right place at the right time knowing that decisions had to be made. Folks shirking their responsibilities for the good of the conference and looking out for their OWN best interests...schools be dayumed. Not everybody mind you, but those folks are in the mix....
 
What many people have not thought about is what affect this situation has on other things, NOT FOOTBALL. Sure, SU may not make it to the SCG and many would think that they deserve it. I would have rather UAPB and SU played the game in Pine Bluff and still have SU make it to the game.

Here is where the situation has really hurt UAPB. That game was in the budget for UAPB. We are talking about a sellout of 12,500 tickets at $15 a piece. That is close to $200,000 or more worth of budget revenue lost. Some program somewhere on UAPB campus or a collection thereof will have to makeup for that budget shortfall. This affects students that are not related to athletics. That is what UAPB officials, SU officials, Council of Presidents and the SWAC office should have considered before the decision was made to not have this game scheduled.

Although I'm happy that things got this far because it exposes the stupid decisions made by those in charge, I'm also sad that not matter who wins, everybody loses one way or another.
 
Jaguar Diehard said:
Nobody in the Jag Nation disagrees with the article. The truth is the truth! GR pointed all of this foolishness out (with a few others) about the SWAC HQ not having balls. So what do you want from us? To admit it is true? You got it! To admit we caused it? Hell no! EVERYBODY played a part in it! Folks not being in the right place at the right time knowing that decisions had to be made. Folks shirking their responsibilities for the good of the conference and looking out for their OWN best interests...schools be dayumed. Not everybody mind you, but those folks are in the mix....


JD, these pathetic ass folks on this board can't help themselves...anytime SU is in the news for anything negative, they run w/it like a dog in heat.

They read the Advocate more than Southernites...but let them tell it, they can't stand us, and we're NEVER on their minds.

Don't even attempt to explain this situation anymore. This has been going on all football season long, it's NO NEW NEWS to anyone, especially Southernites.
 
SU's Finest '93 said:
JD, these pathetic ass folks on this board can't help themselves...anytime SU is in the news for anything negative, they run w/it like a dog in heat.

They read the Advocate more than Southernites...but let them tell it, they can't stand us, and we're NEVER on their minds.

Don't even attempt to explain this situation anymore. This has been going on all football season long, it's NO NEW NEWS to anyone, especially Southernites.

Aren't we full of ourselves today. :smh:
 
cat daddy said:
Aren't we full of ourselves today. :smh:
I'm full of myself everyday, today ain't no different...I'd suggest you pay more attention to my sig under the avatar...it's not just up for show, it's the truth.
 
MACHIAVELLI said:
I thought su had Joe schei-what's-his-name under control. When will the subscription boycotts start?
Mach, aren't you a journalist? Perhaps I'm mistaken about that, but let me just say that JOURNALISTS/REPORTERS should never be "under control" of the institution they report about. And let me say as a graduate of Southern University's Schools of Journalism and Law, WE are interested in fair, unbiased, unfrettered reporting. Whether we LIKE what Joe said or not, it has a right to report and express his opinions. It's called journalistic intergrity.

I ain't mad at him and I am renewing ANNUAL subscription to The Advocate when it terms out in January.

Now having said all THAT,

One of the few things I agree with GeeArrah on is the SWAC commish/office and they way they handle EVERYTHING. It is a fcuked up MESS, this year and last year when teams are not compelled to play each other. And now the Jaguar Nation must hold it's collective breath until the final tick of the clock this Saturday, to see if we DESERVE to play in the Championship game. PERIOD.

Speaking of our destiny being in the hands of someone else...

MH, meet me over on the Smack Board, hea? :devil2:
 
SU's Finest '93 said:
I'm full of myself everyday, today ain't no different...I'd suggest you pay more attention to my sig under the avatar...it's not just up for show, it's the truth.

It's a SU thang, they will never understand. :bowdown:
 



cat daddy said:
Aren't we full of ourselves today. :smh:

You know, my neighbor is a former SU player and grad and when the scheduling fiasco broke out in the summer, he was like "The SWAC can't make SU do nothing, if we don't want to play UAPB, we don't have to". You know I watched the BC over his house. TBCWSS!!!

Its funny how all the SU people who thought it was OK to knowingly shaft UAPB out of a home game and then turn around and lose the BC, which may cost them a trip to the SCG and think people HATE SU. People don't HATE SU, they are just glad SU is getting exactly what SU deserves.
 
Da_Sperm said:
"The SWAC can't make SU do nothing, if we don't want to play UAPB, we don't have to". .
Those were the exact same sentiments expressed (at the time) by a lot of the SU people on TSPN. Their comments are still here.

but, it really doesn't matter though, because, they don't care, aint concerned and don't GAF about the SCG anyway.

:lol:

It's a good article. Too bad they're upset because it got posted.
 
Well, I ain't y'all, and I can't hate y'all, because to hate y'all would me I give a isht about y'all, which at this point, I really don't.

Don't give a banana about y'all, bama state, the scg, the game Saturday, or even whether or not the buses run outta gas on anyone's way to any location.

I'm sick as bananas of the damned topic. None of this would matter if the people in the SWAC office had some nuts in the summer. "Tried to get them to work it out" my ass. Dammit, when you are in CHARGE of something, be in CHARGE of the isht. The isht ain't always a democracy.

"YOU MOFOS WILL PLAY EACH OTHER AT THIS LOCATION ON THIS DATE, AND IF YOU DON'T, YOUR MONKEY ASSES WILL BE PENALIZED." That is what should have been said by those in charge, but it wasn't, and once again, everyone hates SU. No offense, but Forget SU. This ain't got a forgetting thing to do with SU. Hell, it ain't even about UAPB, and it fa DAYUM SHO' ain't about Bama State.This is all about the JOKE of an administrative office we have. Hell, I'm tempted to buy them forgeters some balls and send them as a Christmas gift, so maybe this kind of dumb bananas won't happen anymore.

In the meantime, can this isht please be put to rest until AFTER Saturday? :rolleyes:

Calm your nerves girl, this is the sports board.......
(fruit and thoughfulness supplied by) Fiyah
 
mighty hornet said:
Those were the exact same sentiments expressed (at the time) by a lot of the SU people on TSPN. Their comments are still here.

but, it really doesn't matter though, because, they don't care, aint concerned and don't GAF about the SCG anyway.

:lol:

It's a good article. Too bad they're upset because it got posted.
I'm not upset that it was written or posted and I think it is a good article! Go your tail over to the Smack Board where I called you out! :D:D:D

:tup: Cosigning to Niter! BTW, remember I was all ready to come to Pine Bluff and meet your Mommy and everything and still mad that we didn't come to play UAPB on the date scheduled. :mad:
 
Vinita said:
Well, I ain't y'all, and I can't hate y'all, because to hate y'all would me I give a isht about y'all, which at this point, I really don't.

Don't give a **** about y'all, bama state, the scg, the game Saturday, or even whether or not the buses run outta gas on anyone's way to any location.

I'm sick as **** of the damned topic. None of this would matter if the people in the SWAC office had some nuts in the summer. "Tried to get them to work it out" my ass. Dammit, when you are in CHARGE of something, be in CHARGE of the isht. The **** ain't always a democracy.

"YOU MOFOS WILL PLAY EACH OTHER AT THIS LOCATION ON THIS DATE, AND IF YOU DON'T, YOUR MONKEY ASSES WILL BE PENALIZED." That is what should have been said by those in charge, but it wasn't, and once again, everyone hates SU. No offense, but **** SU. This ain't got a ******* thing to do with SU. Hell, it ain't even about UAPB, and it fa DAYUM SHO' ain't about Bama State.This is all about the JOKE of an administrative office we have. Hell, I'm tempted to buy them ****** some balls and send them as a Christmas gift, so maybe this kind of dumb **** won't happen anymore.


In the meantime, can this isht please be put to rest until AFTER Saturday? :rolleyes:
 
mighty hornet said:
It's a good article. Too bad they're upset because it got posted.

You know, it would be understandable if the article came from the Pine Bluff newspaper (pbcommercial.com), but it is from a BR newspaper. Oh, that writer probably hates SUcks too. Now I understand.
 
When Bama State kick pine bluffs ARSE this weekend, I'll be laughing! :D

When SU goes to the SCG, cause pine bluff lost, I'll be LMAO! :flippy:

When SU kicks Bama States ARSE again for the second time, I'll be ROFLMBAO! :rolly:

When all of you other Mutha-Cruckers be made cause SU is crowned SWAC champs again, I'll be laughing so hard that I'll Schyt on myself! :jump:

See the problem is "We SU, ya'll ain't!!!!!!"
 
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