Guess the Southern v. Tulane Score
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MikeBigg
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You yellas really crack me up. Everyone doesn't have a "built-in" hatred for you people. But I admit that it is fun watching yall whine and whimper after you get your azz beat.
I was really disappointed in you so-called diehard fans last year. A co-worker of mine went up and down the Hall offering whatever amount of money ($25 minimum) on Tulane over SU. Not one Blue & Gold, QB club member, or whatever little support groupie would take the bet. Dude (a brutha) talked about yall all summer prior to the game, the week of the game, and then after the game. Even went on record to say the bet still stood going into this year. Guess what...still not one yella with enuff Planter's to take the wager. Yall ain't nothing but a bunch of Mounds candy bars...no nutts!
I got so pissed, I tried to bet for yall. He was like...no bruh, I respect you too much to even let you be associated with these sorry mofos!
I was really disappointed in you so-called diehard fans last year. A co-worker of mine went up and down the Hall offering whatever amount of money ($25 minimum) on Tulane over SU. Not one Blue & Gold, QB club member, or whatever little support groupie would take the bet. Dude (a brutha) talked about yall all summer prior to the game, the week of the game, and then after the game. Even went on record to say the bet still stood going into this year. Guess what...still not one yella with enuff Planter's to take the wager. Yall ain't nothing but a bunch of Mounds candy bars...no nutts!
I got so pissed, I tried to bet for yall. He was like...no bruh, I respect you too much to even let you be associated with these sorry mofos!
SowasheeEagle
New Member
Question for Mike Bigg.
If Tulane has better overall talent than SU,
and SU and JSU appear to have similar talent levels, what does it say about the talent level
of a Southern Miss team that has put up 163 points
on Tulane the past three years (including 59 last year) versus the talent at JSU?
MikeBigg
Well-Known Member
Actually, Tulane is better than SU only in the skill positions. IMO, the only two skill position players advantage for SU is Michael Hayes (best wide receiver on either team) and db Lenny Williams who can play for anyone in the country. On the offensive and defensive line, they are about even (except Tulane has more depth). Tulane's edge comes in the qb (Losman who played behind a number 1 NFL draft pick) and Mewelde Moore (rated in the top 5 rb's in the country). SU doesn't yet shown that they have a qb that can match Tulane's offensive producton.
On the other hand, JSU has a passer that is far superior to what you have at Southern Miss. They also have receivers with speed and should give your defense some problems. I admit that they play defense like Floridians count chads (very suspect) but they have a chance to outscore you. If their defensive front stops Nix then you guys will be in for some trouble.
That's the reason for my varied opinion!
GSUperTiger
The "Icon" of BCF
This is typical. One needs to look no further than their traditionless history. These clowns have no concept of winning. Have you ever noticed thier personalities on the SP? They are constantly justifying their existence as the perceived elite. Since I have been on the SP, I have never seen a SUcks poster initiate a thread (those confident ones showcasing faith in your team) like the ones from the Buffalo and Cartel because nothing in their traditionless history justifies such. I can not remember any SUspect team striking any fear in an opponent. When Icon Gram hits the field, teams know they have a 90% chance of losing. There is an old adage that states, "history always repeats itself." I be damned if I am not witnessing the futile hopes and dreams of Otis Washington and Kimble teams being reincarnated. I grew up surrounded by a den of Jags, and these clowns never had any faith or confidence in football -- it was something about that "shinin' star in the rollin' hills of North Louisiana that casted a dark shadow to an already -- yup -- traditionless program.
JROCK
Preeminent
"Gstupidest"
It is apparent that your arse work in Gsucks accounting dept. Judging from your stupidity one woulld beleive that your sorry school led the series against your SUperior. Through your myopic lens those 8 out of the last 9 years of thrashing and lambasting on National TV was only a bad dream for Gsuck and swallow. Your pathetic school was Jack until a Southernite hired crying Eddie. And, for years your punk arse alma mater ran from "Ace" and the church schools in the SWAC. There is a reason your pitiful school trails S.U. in the overall series. Traditionless? When is your buffoonish arse men basketball team (3 years removed from being the worse in the nation) going to get a bid to the D-1 NCAA tourney? Your track program is a disgrace to the state of LA. where some of the best athletes reside in the country. How many SWAC titles have you won in this sports that last decade? Your traditionless baseball team has NEVER won a post season D-1 playoff game. Did your punk arse clown school ever make it to a regional d-1 playoff game? Hambling is the CON of Black College AThletics. Your SUperior has captured 8 out of the last 11 commissioner cups. How many of the other 3 did your traditionless school win. You may want to get your CFO to handle this question. I'm not sure that we should give him a deadline.
It is apparent that your arse work in Gsucks accounting dept. Judging from your stupidity one woulld beleive that your sorry school led the series against your SUperior. Through your myopic lens those 8 out of the last 9 years of thrashing and lambasting on National TV was only a bad dream for Gsuck and swallow. Your pathetic school was Jack until a Southernite hired crying Eddie. And, for years your punk arse alma mater ran from "Ace" and the church schools in the SWAC. There is a reason your pitiful school trails S.U. in the overall series. Traditionless? When is your buffoonish arse men basketball team (3 years removed from being the worse in the nation) going to get a bid to the D-1 NCAA tourney? Your track program is a disgrace to the state of LA. where some of the best athletes reside in the country. How many SWAC titles have you won in this sports that last decade? Your traditionless baseball team has NEVER won a post season D-1 playoff game. Did your punk arse clown school ever make it to a regional d-1 playoff game? Hambling is the CON of Black College AThletics. Your SUperior has captured 8 out of the last 11 commissioner cups. How many of the other 3 did your traditionless school win. You may want to get your CFO to handle this question. I'm not sure that we should give him a deadline.
SowasheeEagle
New Member
I appreciate your opinion. While I don't doubt that Mr. Kent is
a big time talent, we have handled QB's of equal or better talent
with relative ease in the past. Patrick Ramsey, David Garrard,
Dave Ragone, Chris Redman, Shaun King. Our defensive front goes 3 deep and NFL scouts have said that probably all 12 on the 3 deep roster will eventually end up in NFL camps. Kent will nnot have any time to throw downfield. His only chance is to hope our corners have a bad day.
sophandros
Free Thinker
You Jags are delusional
Tulane didn't score sixty because the majority of the starters didn't finish the game. Tulane scored 34 in the first half, and totally called off the dogs in the second. It's called class (something the JSU posters need to learn, but I digress...).
Both of Tulane's corners were offered at other schools in the country, so they aren't scrubs. Hayes, however, IF HEALTHY may be the best college WR in LA. I respect that dude that much. As for line talent, Southern has some big kids, but they were sucking air in the fourth. Tulane's line is better coached and face better quality week in and week out than Southern's.
As for the JSU people who think that they have a chance versus USM, I've seen what USM's defense IN A BAD YEAR does to GOOD QBs on good I-A teams. Y'all are in for a long afternoon.
Tulane didn't score sixty because the majority of the starters didn't finish the game. Tulane scored 34 in the first half, and totally called off the dogs in the second. It's called class (something the JSU posters need to learn, but I digress...).
Both of Tulane's corners were offered at other schools in the country, so they aren't scrubs. Hayes, however, IF HEALTHY may be the best college WR in LA. I respect that dude that much. As for line talent, Southern has some big kids, but they were sucking air in the fourth. Tulane's line is better coached and face better quality week in and week out than Southern's.
As for the JSU people who think that they have a chance versus USM, I've seen what USM's defense IN A BAD YEAR does to GOOD QBs on good I-A teams. Y'all are in for a long afternoon.
MikeBigg
Well-Known Member
Sweetie, you know better than that! You ain't gotta bet your money...I don't like taking money from ladies. I might run up your credit card, or eat all your food, or make myself some drinks at your bar...but I ain't gonna bet you and take your money.
I'm looking forward to spending some of my winnings with you anyway...
JROCK
Preeminent
Andros
..........you are the delusional individual.
Tulane is nothing but a 1-AA ball club in disguise. You are a liar that "the dogs in the second" were called off. The Jags were in the red zone 4 times in the 2nd half on your 1st team defense. S.U. will thump your butts on 8/31. Hence, it will not be the first time you got beat by a team other than LSU in the state ( all of those other pretenders are 1-AA schools in disguise also). I cant wait until 8/31 to shut some of "you delusional people" up. Make no mistake, Toolame is not a legitimate 1-A ball club. You all are that in scholarships only. That is the reason no one cares to see your pitiful ball club play. Your game against your SUperior was the largest crowd at home for you school in 9 yrs (1 year short of a decade). That in it self speaks volumes about whom TooLame really is.........Deal with it.
..........you are the delusional individual.
Tulane is nothing but a 1-AA ball club in disguise. You are a liar that "the dogs in the second" were called off. The Jags were in the red zone 4 times in the 2nd half on your 1st team defense. S.U. will thump your butts on 8/31. Hence, it will not be the first time you got beat by a team other than LSU in the state ( all of those other pretenders are 1-AA schools in disguise also). I cant wait until 8/31 to shut some of "you delusional people" up. Make no mistake, Toolame is not a legitimate 1-A ball club. You all are that in scholarships only. That is the reason no one cares to see your pitiful ball club play. Your game against your SUperior was the largest crowd at home for you school in 9 yrs (1 year short of a decade). That in it self speaks volumes about whom TooLame really is.........Deal with it.
sophandros
Free Thinker
Re: Andros
So ranking in the top 20 in passing offense for the last four seasons, in the top 30 in total offense this year, despite playing against five top ten defenses is just I-A in name only?
Tulane's first team defense wasn't in the game in the second half, BTW. Several starters were sitting at that point.
Tulane's attendance woes are the same as Miami's--small, private school in an urban setting with competition for the entertainment dollar. BTW, FSU didn't sell their allotment of tickets for this weekend's game. I guess they aren't legit in your book.
TU's largest home crowd was against La Tech in 1998, which is when TU finished in the top ten (actually #7) in I-A.
Look here to see TU's offensive ranking: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/stats/2001/NCAAFteamtotaloffense.html
And here's the NCAA defensive rankings: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/stats/2001/NCAAFteamtotaldefense.html
Now, you should note the following teams when looking at the defensive rankings:
UAB, Central Florida, Southern Mississippi, Louisville, TCU, East Carolina, ULL. All of them were Wave opponents in 2001, and all were in the top 30 in Defense. In fact, with the exception of USM and ULL, all of those were in the TOP TEN. Kinda puts TU's offense into perspective. So, yes, sir, they called off the dogs. BTW, TU put 48 on the board versus TCU.
So ranking in the top 20 in passing offense for the last four seasons, in the top 30 in total offense this year, despite playing against five top ten defenses is just I-A in name only?
Tulane's first team defense wasn't in the game in the second half, BTW. Several starters were sitting at that point.
Tulane's attendance woes are the same as Miami's--small, private school in an urban setting with competition for the entertainment dollar. BTW, FSU didn't sell their allotment of tickets for this weekend's game. I guess they aren't legit in your book.
TU's largest home crowd was against La Tech in 1998, which is when TU finished in the top ten (actually #7) in I-A.
Look here to see TU's offensive ranking: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/stats/2001/NCAAFteamtotaloffense.html
And here's the NCAA defensive rankings: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/stats/2001/NCAAFteamtotaldefense.html
Now, you should note the following teams when looking at the defensive rankings:
UAB, Central Florida, Southern Mississippi, Louisville, TCU, East Carolina, ULL. All of them were Wave opponents in 2001, and all were in the top 30 in Defense. In fact, with the exception of USM and ULL, all of those were in the TOP TEN. Kinda puts TU's offense into perspective. So, yes, sir, they called off the dogs. BTW, TU put 48 on the board versus TCU.
JROCK
Preeminent
"TU's largest home crowd was against La Tech in 1998, which is when TU finished in the top ten (actually #7) in I-A."
This is not a true statment. Your largest crowd prior to the S.U. game was against the U of Alabama nearly a decade ago.
"So ranking in the top 20 in passing offense for the last four seasons, in the top 30 in total offense this year, despite playing against five top ten defenses is just I-A in name only? "
Face it you are no more than a mid-major (code word for 1-AA in disguise) and the posting of all the stats in the world will not change anyones mind. How many times did your mid major team play on National T.V. the last 10 years. If you have not played a minimum of ten times your team should be in 1-AA.
"Tulane's attendance woes are the same as Miami's--small, private school in an urban setting with competition for the entertainment dollar"
This is a delusional statement. Toolame is no way in the same class with Miami in terms of athletics. I am from New Orleans. No one in the city gives an ish about Toolame. The is why you have attendance woes. Southern U. can go to N.O. and outdraw you lames any day of the week. Your A.D. attended the S.U./JSU you game and wanted a peice of the Magic. That was the inception of this new series.
"Tulane's first team defense wasn't in the game in the second half, BTW. Several starters were sitting at that point."
Either you was not at the game (like I was) or you are smoking left hand cigarettes.
This is not a true statment. Your largest crowd prior to the S.U. game was against the U of Alabama nearly a decade ago.
"So ranking in the top 20 in passing offense for the last four seasons, in the top 30 in total offense this year, despite playing against five top ten defenses is just I-A in name only? "
Face it you are no more than a mid-major (code word for 1-AA in disguise) and the posting of all the stats in the world will not change anyones mind. How many times did your mid major team play on National T.V. the last 10 years. If you have not played a minimum of ten times your team should be in 1-AA.
"Tulane's attendance woes are the same as Miami's--small, private school in an urban setting with competition for the entertainment dollar"
This is a delusional statement. Toolame is no way in the same class with Miami in terms of athletics. I am from New Orleans. No one in the city gives an ish about Toolame. The is why you have attendance woes. Southern U. can go to N.O. and outdraw you lames any day of the week. Your A.D. attended the S.U./JSU you game and wanted a peice of the Magic. That was the inception of this new series.
"Tulane's first team defense wasn't in the game in the second half, BTW. Several starters were sitting at that point."
Either you was not at the game (like I was) or you are smoking left hand cigarettes.
sophandros
Free Thinker
SU and JSU travel well. That's nice. Tulane has great attendence at road games--particularly at Army, at Memphis, at SMU, at TCU, etc. Why? Our alumni base is National, not regional. Most of the alums don't stay in LA. Hell, I grew up in New Orleans and had to leave.
Your crack on national TV exposure is laughable. Let's see, during 1998, TU was on national TV at least four times, was on four or five times during the 1999 season, at least twice in 2000, and once in 2001. TU was on I think twice in 1997 (Syracuse come immediately to mind). Oh, and that doesn't count the Liberty Bowl, which still gets play on ESPN Classic. I don't remember the TV exposure during the early to mid nineties, but I do remember games against Bama and FSU.
I was at the game, and I'm more familiar with the depth chart than you are. Also, defensive play calling changes when you have a 27-34 point lead--you play a lot more "prevent" and don't attack as much. That's called "calling off the dogs". Explain away 41-7. Please try to.
Oh, and explain away Tulane's success moving the ball versus five TOP TEN defenses with only I-AA talent (only the #2 rated QB from HS last season, the best running back in the country, the Lou Groza award winning kicker, players from both LA and TX top 50 lists, etc.). No, my friend, you are the delusional one here.
Southern will be lucky to stay within 34 this year.
Panther88
Banned
Hey soph? 
I see you're posting from Deeeeeeeeeeeeeep ELLUM! I, and a few others, am in Oak Cliff-Dallas and since we wouldn't want to invite you to "the hood" where it's dangerous as all "L" out ~snicker~ to watch SU beat the dog isht outta' TooLame; we were wondering if we could set it out @ your crib in the 'burbs to watch the game on your HDTV-54"? We'll bring da' Bud Ice/Bud Light/Coors Light 
, etc... Holla' Deep Bellum.
Seriously, what about a sports bar off of Greenville, etc.?
SU - 24
TU - 6 :smh:
I see you're posting from Deeeeeeeeeeeeeep ELLUM! I, and a few others, am in Oak Cliff-Dallas and since we wouldn't want to invite you to "the hood" where it's dangerous as all "L" out ~snicker~ to watch SU beat the dog isht outta' TooLame; we were wondering if we could set it out @ your crib in the 'burbs to watch the game on your HDTV-54"?
We'll bring da' Bud Ice/Bud Light/Coors Light , etc... Holla' Deep Bellum. Seriously, what about a sports bar off of Greenville, etc.?
SU - 24
TU - 6 :smh:
sophandros
Free Thinker
Originally posted by Panthro
Hey soph?
I see you're posting from Deeeeeeeeeeeeeep ELLUM! I, and a few others, am in Oak Cliff-Dallas and since we wouldn't want to invite you to "the hood" where it's dangerous as all "L" out ~snicker~ to watch SU beat the dog isht outta' TooLame; we were wondering if we could set it out @ your crib in the 'burbs to watch the game on your HDTV-54"?
Seriously, what about a sports bar off of Greenville, etc.?
SU - 24
TU - 6 :smh:
Well, I'll be in New Orleans for the game. I may go to the PVAM/GSU game, though.
I don't hang out around Greenville much, and I don't live in the 'Burbs (unless you count Commerce St. as the 'Burbs). BTW, you EVER, EVER bring any of that ****e "beer" into my place, I'm going to have to rip your spleen out.
Since I don't own a television of any sort, having an HDTV-54 would be slightly out of the question.
I may run around someplace to watch this weekend's stuff, and the Saints during NFL, though.
Diesel
Member
So somebody help me understand.
We are delusional for believing our team can win against a Tulane team that is supposed to win against us. Since we are not supposed to be on the same level, we are supposed to come on a **** talking board and bend over to you because you think we should?
So tell my Tulane fans, how many bets have you made on the Texas-Tulane game. Just because Texas is a big time 1-A program and Tulane is a bottom 1-A program at best, you are going to lay down on a **** talking board?
SU is going to beat Tulane's arse. Why? Because I know we are and I don't have to prove anything to any damn body.
I believe the Jags are going to win because I know we can win. Tulane is not the kind of 1-A program we should fear, so we don't. Delusional or not, Tulane needs the pay day and we need the play 1-A bottom dwellers to toughen our resolve. Tulane is not and will become Nebraska, so why should we fear you or say that we can't beat you. Just keep playing us and you will not just get beat, we are going to bust that head.
As for you Grambling people, you all can kiss our blue and gold arse and if that's not tradition then lets start one. Raggy arse crumbling grumbling wins one BC out of the last 10 and think they have got it made.
We are delusional for believing our team can win against a Tulane team that is supposed to win against us. Since we are not supposed to be on the same level, we are supposed to come on a **** talking board and bend over to you because you think we should?
So tell my Tulane fans, how many bets have you made on the Texas-Tulane game. Just because Texas is a big time 1-A program and Tulane is a bottom 1-A program at best, you are going to lay down on a **** talking board?
SU is going to beat Tulane's arse. Why? Because I know we are and I don't have to prove anything to any damn body.
I believe the Jags are going to win because I know we can win. Tulane is not the kind of 1-A program we should fear, so we don't. Delusional or not, Tulane needs the pay day and we need the play 1-A bottom dwellers to toughen our resolve. Tulane is not and will become Nebraska, so why should we fear you or say that we can't beat you. Just keep playing us and you will not just get beat, we are going to bust that head.
As for you Grambling people, you all can kiss our blue and gold arse and if that's not tradition then lets start one. Raggy arse crumbling grumbling wins one BC out of the last 10 and think they have got it made.
sophandros
Free Thinker
"We are delusional for believing our team can win against a Tulane team that is supposed to win against us."
Pretty much, yeah.
"So tell my Tulane fans, how many bets have you made on the Texas-Tulane game."
That game is more than a month way. FWIW, however, I have some wagers with UH fans for the game on 9/7 in place. I have a wager in place with a UNT fan concerning the UNT/UT and TU/UT final outcomes, but I haven't entertained any direct UT/TU wagering since the line isn't out.
"SU is going to beat Tulane's arse. Why? Because I know we are and I don't have to prove anything to any damn body."
What a succinct argument. You really put me in my place with that one.
"I believe the Jags are going to win because I know we can win."
While I admire the power of positive thinking, I have to remind you of last year in football and the last two years in baseball. You still haven't told me how SU is going to even slow down TU's offense.
"Tulane is not the kind of 1-A program we should fear, so we don't. Delusional or not, Tulane needs the pay day and we need the play 1-A bottom dwellers to toughen our resolve."
First of all, NO team should fear another. NO athlete should fear another. Anyone with in ounce of fear in his body should not be on the field. Does TU need the money? Everyone needs money. But this game is about much more than that. It's about outreach and developing relationships. But that's beside the point. BTW, if TU were a I-A bottom dweller, it would be afraid to play a school like Southern because it would hurt recruiting. And 41-7 isn't about resolve.
"Tulane is not and will become Nebraska, so why should we fear you or say that we can't beat you. Just keep playing us and you will not just get beat, we are going to bust that head."
Actually, Nebraska became Tulane. Read up on some college football history for details. The bottom line is that SU will not beat TU this year. It will be an entertaining game, but that's it. Tulane will continue to play Southern and the Big Easy Classic will continue to be beneficial to both sides and to New Orleans. The latter is extremely important to me, but that's beside the point.
"As for you Grambling people, you all can kiss our blue and gold arse and if that's not tradition then lets start one. Raggy arse crumbling grumbling wins one BC out of the last 10 and think they have got it made."
No arguments there.
Pretty much, yeah.
"So tell my Tulane fans, how many bets have you made on the Texas-Tulane game."
That game is more than a month way. FWIW, however, I have some wagers with UH fans for the game on 9/7 in place. I have a wager in place with a UNT fan concerning the UNT/UT and TU/UT final outcomes, but I haven't entertained any direct UT/TU wagering since the line isn't out.
"SU is going to beat Tulane's arse. Why? Because I know we are and I don't have to prove anything to any damn body."
What a succinct argument. You really put me in my place with that one.
"I believe the Jags are going to win because I know we can win."
While I admire the power of positive thinking, I have to remind you of last year in football and the last two years in baseball. You still haven't told me how SU is going to even slow down TU's offense.
"Tulane is not the kind of 1-A program we should fear, so we don't. Delusional or not, Tulane needs the pay day and we need the play 1-A bottom dwellers to toughen our resolve."
First of all, NO team should fear another. NO athlete should fear another. Anyone with in ounce of fear in his body should not be on the field. Does TU need the money? Everyone needs money. But this game is about much more than that. It's about outreach and developing relationships. But that's beside the point. BTW, if TU were a I-A bottom dweller, it would be afraid to play a school like Southern because it would hurt recruiting. And 41-7 isn't about resolve.
"Tulane is not and will become Nebraska, so why should we fear you or say that we can't beat you. Just keep playing us and you will not just get beat, we are going to bust that head."
Actually, Nebraska became Tulane. Read up on some college football history for details.
The bottom line is that SU will not beat TU this year. It will be an entertaining game, but that's it. Tulane will continue to play Southern and the Big Easy Classic will continue to be beneficial to both sides and to New Orleans. The latter is extremely important to me, but that's beside the point."As for you Grambling people, you all can kiss our blue and gold arse and if that's not tradition then lets start one. Raggy arse crumbling grumbling wins one BC out of the last 10 and think they have got it made."
No arguments there.
Diesel
Member
Let's forget about last year. Damn last year. I don't make excuses and I could probably come up with plenty to try and explain away a 41-7 loss. But that's not my style.
You asked how are we going to slow down Tulane's offense? First of all, by stopping the big play. There were several pivotal plays in last years game that broke open what was a very competitive game.
After the SU touchdown, we gave up a very easy score on a wide reciever screen, a play that I have rarely if ever seen score a touchdown on any level. That was the very next Tulane offensive play after our touchdown. Up to that point, all I can remember you mustering were two field goals. Anytime a 1-AA team forces a 1-A team in to a red-zone field goal, that's a good thing.
The punt return for a touchdown was also a back breaker as was the fake punt. Special teams play this year is going to be better so I really don't expect breakdowns in this area of the game.
3. Melwelde Moore got tons of yardage late in the game because the dept wore us down. This year we are deeper on the defensive side of the ball. Our defensive line is also stronger and faster than last year's edition, so we don't have to committ linebackers to the pass rush as we did last year, leaving our tired defensive line and one linebacker as the last line of defense against a very good running back.
Tulane's offense spent too much time on the field last year. With a scaled down game plan which eliminates passing the ball everydown, our offense will be able to hold on to ball longer, eliminating some of your offensive touches and decreasing the chances that we will put up another 3 or 4 ints. Two of which were in Tulane territory and one in the red zone of a brillant play by the Tulane corner.
We will run the ball. The teams that beat up Tulane did it by running the ball down their throats. That's how we are going to do it. We will commit to the run and we will stick to it. And just when you think you have it all figured out, we will try Hays over the top. This much you can count on. If it doesn't work, then so be it. We have some speedy backs, some power, and the offensive line is in remarkable shape.
That's why we will win. You all didn't want Chris Sceflo as coach and we will help you get rid of him.
A good running game, very conservative passing attack, and good defense has always been the SU formula for success and we have all the pieces in place.
We will win.
You asked how are we going to slow down Tulane's offense? First of all, by stopping the big play. There were several pivotal plays in last years game that broke open what was a very competitive game.
After the SU touchdown, we gave up a very easy score on a wide reciever screen, a play that I have rarely if ever seen score a touchdown on any level. That was the very next Tulane offensive play after our touchdown. Up to that point, all I can remember you mustering were two field goals. Anytime a 1-AA team forces a 1-A team in to a red-zone field goal, that's a good thing.
The punt return for a touchdown was also a back breaker as was the fake punt. Special teams play this year is going to be better so I really don't expect breakdowns in this area of the game.
3. Melwelde Moore got tons of yardage late in the game because the dept wore us down. This year we are deeper on the defensive side of the ball. Our defensive line is also stronger and faster than last year's edition, so we don't have to committ linebackers to the pass rush as we did last year, leaving our tired defensive line and one linebacker as the last line of defense against a very good running back.
Tulane's offense spent too much time on the field last year. With a scaled down game plan which eliminates passing the ball everydown, our offense will be able to hold on to ball longer, eliminating some of your offensive touches and decreasing the chances that we will put up another 3 or 4 ints. Two of which were in Tulane territory and one in the red zone of a brillant play by the Tulane corner.
We will run the ball. The teams that beat up Tulane did it by running the ball down their throats. That's how we are going to do it. We will commit to the run and we will stick to it. And just when you think you have it all figured out, we will try Hays over the top. This much you can count on. If it doesn't work, then so be it. We have some speedy backs, some power, and the offensive line is in remarkable shape.
That's why we will win. You all didn't want Chris Sceflo as coach and we will help you get rid of him.
A good running game, very conservative passing attack, and good defense has always been the SU formula for success and we have all the pieces in place.
We will win.
sophandros
Free Thinker
While I don't agree...
at least you presented an argument.
Now for my rebuttal.
Seth Marler (Lou Groza winner, BTW) kicked a 47 yard field goal early in the game. That's not in the red zone.
The WR screen to Roydell Williams came after a 49 yard kickoff return. Special teams.
Tulane's defense is emphasizing the run this year (surprise, surprise) and our new coordinator has simplified the scheme to allow for his athletes to do their jobs. The guys on SU's offense that worry me are Hayes and Ike. Ike should be OK by 8/31, and I'm curious to see how Hayes plays coming off of his injury.
Mewelde ran well for the duration of the game, but you're right, TU wore SU down last season. Unfortunately for the Jags, the Wave still has more depth.
We did want Scelfo as coach; that's why he's the coach right now. There are some malcontents, but they never present a viable alternative. More importantly, Scelfo wants to coach at Tulane; he's not looking to use this as a springboard job and never did. BTW, if I were an SU fan, I wouldn't go around trying to get Scelfo fired because Dickson may look up the river for a coach.
Anyway, Tulane will win because SU lacks the firepower to keep up with the Wave. This year's offense will still be explosive, and the big play will happen.
at least you presented an argument.
Now for my rebuttal.
Seth Marler (Lou Groza winner, BTW) kicked a 47 yard field goal early in the game. That's not in the red zone.
The WR screen to Roydell Williams came after a 49 yard kickoff return. Special teams.
Tulane's defense is emphasizing the run this year (surprise, surprise) and our new coordinator has simplified the scheme to allow for his athletes to do their jobs. The guys on SU's offense that worry me are Hayes and Ike. Ike should be OK by 8/31, and I'm curious to see how Hayes plays coming off of his injury.
Mewelde ran well for the duration of the game, but you're right, TU wore SU down last season. Unfortunately for the Jags, the Wave still has more depth.
We did want Scelfo as coach; that's why he's the coach right now. There are some malcontents, but they never present a viable alternative. More importantly, Scelfo wants to coach at Tulane; he's not looking to use this as a springboard job and never did. BTW, if I were an SU fan, I wouldn't go around trying to get Scelfo fired because Dickson may look up the river for a coach.
Anyway, Tulane will win because SU lacks the firepower to keep up with the Wave. This year's offense will still be explosive, and the big play will happen.
Diesel
Member
It wasn't just your defensive scheme that got you run over last year. Your defense was not very good at tackling quick agressive runners. Victor Ike is both. Hayes knee is fine. He is running with authority and looks to be in fine condition.
There is no Patrick Ramsey and I don't think Lossman is going to be another Patrick Ramsey. Your offense will sputter without the proven quarterback, so I don't think you will put up the kind of numbers that you think unless we give you the short field to work with.
You are going to be surprised by this year's edition of the "Dog Day Defense" and the running game.
But its time to play the game, baby.
There is no Patrick Ramsey and I don't think Lossman is going to be another Patrick Ramsey. Your offense will sputter without the proven quarterback, so I don't think you will put up the kind of numbers that you think unless we give you the short field to work with.
You are going to be surprised by this year's edition of the "Dog Day Defense" and the running game.
But its time to play the game, baby.
sophandros
Free Thinker
You're right. J.P. won't be another Ramsey. He's more in the Shaun King mold--but with a stronger arm and better credentials.
The defense failed because of scheming and lack of fundamentals. What did Schumann bring from day one? A sound scheme and HARD fundamental work. Ike still worries me, but he won't match Moore's numbers.
We agree on one thing, though. It's time for some football. At least we have UVa/CSU tonight.