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I have TWICE been THE assistant pastor when the senior pastor has had a failure. The first thing that came to mind in each case was:
Gal 6:1-2,7
6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness ; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ... 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
In the first case, the restoration process took 5 years (divorced), but it held that church together. I was pleased to perform the remarriage the pastor and his wife, and the church thrived. We then got to leave. At the next church, the pastor and wife again ran into trouble just as God had given us a Word to start a new church body. We stayed 6 months weeks for them to be recovered and it held that church together.
What Dr. Dollar is talking about is as much for New Birth and the ministries that will be born out of it as it is for Eddie Long. The only thing that I might have done differently was to tell them to first go back and see Pastor Long restored and the church stabilized. If God then gives you a word to move, follow that word. But, to abdicate because the deal went bad is failing to love your brother and it is wrong.
If I had a failure, I would want someone to love me enough to take the time to restore me.
smh. I hope Creflo followers leave behind this foolishness
HE DIDN'T EVEN ADMIT HIS FAILURE!!! Dacon are you ONE of "them"?
The best thing he can do right now is to step aside and receive the counsel of trusted leaders who love him enough to hold him accountable.
Nah, Man. I am a dude just trying to follow what the Bible says. If Long does not want to follow the principles of Scripture, he will end up like Jimmy Swaggart before him: a shell of his former self. If he does what is right, he could rightfully take the helm of New Birth again in the future. The best thing he can do right now is to step aside and receive the counsel of trusted leaders who love him enough to hold him accountable.
How 'bout step aside and just receive the counsel of GOD? Trusted leaders in his circle? They're probably corrupt, too...
If he can't be honest about the things he's done and repent, I don't see why he needs to be in the pulpit EVER again. How you can teach the masses when you're still living a lie? :retard:
One thing I have learned about pastors, preachers, bishops, whatever is that they stick together like a fraternity. You won't get any of them to really speak out against Long. They may talk amongst each other in PRIVATE, but in public it's not happening. It must go against the "CODE" or something...:noidea:
HE DIDN'T EVEN ADMIT HIS FAILURE!!! Dacon are you ONE of "them"?
One thing I have learned about pastors, preachers, bishops, whatever is that they stick together like a fraternity. You won't get any of them to really speak out against Long. They may talk amongst each other in PRIVATE, but in public it's not happening. It must go against the "CODE" or something...:noidea:
That's a clue in itself. A pastor should stick with God only. Forget people. When you see them sticking together instead of with the Word ... watch out.
One would FIRST need to know/learn the word in order to know what to "watch out" for. That is the primary problem with most of the folks in here who are pointing fingers. It is easy for a person to label a pastor as "a pimp" because its probably too hard for that person to take the time to learn the word.
HUH?? who's pointing fingers. A Bishop shouldnt be carrying on the way this Eddie Long has and even as he did mess up he should put his pride aside and confess and repent. That aint hard at all
HUH?? who's pointing fingers. A Bishop shouldnt be carrying on the way this Eddie Long has and even as he did mess up he should put his pride aside and confess and repent. That aint hard at all
why dont Spike Lee speak out against these 2 well known crooks. this is a damn shame. compared himself to Jesus????....Jesus????
Creflo 4 quarters got a mansion in atlanta and a million dollar house in Manhattan one of the richest cities in the world??
we wonder why people don't go to church these days.
You telling me you think people should continue to follow the teachings of this lying, sodomizing preacher? This man is in the TRUTH and FAITH business, yet he couldn't take his OWN advice and the word of The Good Book and stand on them. Instead gave up 25 million?? For a lie?
:lol:
One pimp looking out for a fellow pimp. :lol:
[video=youtube;6bRafU2FxTY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bRafU2FxTY[/video]He going to hell faster than OJ... With Gasoline draws and muscle shirts!
While I am not the biggest of Creflo Dollar fans on the planet, he is right this time.
I agree. Dollar is right. But the folks on here are so focused on shooting the messenger they completely missed the message.