Boeing now says it expects 737 MAX to resume commercial service in January

[Olde Hornet]

Be afraid, be very afraid! I will stay away from these planes for a while. I have read articles about Boeing's corporate culture around these planes. They have turned into agent orange, lying all over the place. I pray more people wont die because of corporate greed and the FAILURE of government to stand up to big business.

Boeing now says it expects 737 MAX to resume commercial service in January

Boeing Co said Monday it now expects its grounded 737 MAX to resume commercial service in January as it works to address questions from regulators over its documentation for revisions to the plane's software. American Airlines and Southwest Airlines said Friday they were pushing back the...

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Boeing Co said Monday it now expects its grounded 737 MAX to resume commercial service in January as it works to address questions from regulators over its documentation for revisions to the plane's software.

Boeing said it is possible that resumption of MAX deliveries to airline customers could begin in December and added it is working towards final validation of the updated training requirements "which must occur before the MAX returns to commercial service, and which we now expect to begin in January."

American Airlines and Southwest Airlines said Friday they were pushing back the resumption of flights because of the 737 MAX grounding until early March.

Last week, Reuters reported that U.S. and European regulators had not been able to complete a software documentation audit in Cedar Rapids, Iowa of the 737 MAX because of significant gaps and substandard documents. The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) must complete that audit before a key certification test flight can be scheduled.

 

[Olde Hornet]

BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID!

Boeing removed a feature that protects its 787 planes during lightning strikes as a cost-cutting measure, even after FAA experts objected .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/boeing-removed-feature-protects-787-121302177.html .

Boeing removed a feature that protects its 787 planes during lightning strikes even after Federal Aviation Administration experts objected, The Seattle Times reported.

The FAA approved the change after Boeing appealed its rejection, which had said Boeing could not sufficiently prove that the fuel tank would not ignite.

The FAA's decision will today be scrutinized by the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure in light of its oversight of Boeing's 737 Max planes, which was involved in two fatal crashes.

Rep. DeFazio, chair of the committee, said in a November letter to the FAA that both issues "suggest that the opinions and expert advice of the F AA's safety and technical experts are being circumvented or sidelined."

 

[buckwheat1911]

BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID!

Boeing removed a feature that protects its 787 planes during lightning strikes as a cost-cutting measure, even after FAA experts objected .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/boeing-removed-feature-protects-787-121302177.html .

Boeing removed a feature that protects its 787 planes during lightning strikes even after Federal Aviation Administration experts objected, The Seattle Times reported.

The FAA approved the change after Boeing appealed its rejection, which had said Boeing could not sufficiently prove that the fuel tank would not ignite.

The FAA's decision will today be scrutinized by the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure in light of its oversight of Boeing's 737 Max planes, which was involved in two fatal crashes.

Rep. DeFazio, chair of the committee, said in a November letter to the FAA that both issues "suggest that the opinions and expert advice of the F AA's safety and technical experts are being circumvented or sidelined."

So, this will lead to other issues during flight and lightning. American greed! smh

 

[JAG89]

Boeing can't fix customer assurance with this plane.

 

[Taylor-Made'90]

I would think if Boeing has any 737Max's in cargo delivery service, they'd do all the flight testing on those aircraft.. I think the public needs to see the planes in operational testing.

I'd fly on them once they're returned to service.......

 

[JAG89]

The Republicans are the reason for this. They downsized and deregulated government agencies all in the name of profit for big businesses/Republican donors.

 

[CEE DOG]

I got to read the findings on this at a airworthiness training a couple of months ago. So many people failed to do their jobs. Just sad!

 

[JAG89]

I would think if Boeing has any 737Max's in cargo delivery service, they'd do all the flight testing on those aircraft.. I think the public needs to see the planes in operational testing.

I'd fly on them once they're returned to service.......

Best of luck to you. I'm one of those customers who have lost ALL confidence in this plane and I'm not alone.

 

[JAG89]

I got to read the findings on this at a airworthiness training a couple of months ago. So many people failed to do their jobs. Just sad!

I'm sure they failed to do their jobs due to management putting pressure on them to get this plane in production in order to make money. This is very similar to BP's Deepwater Horizon tragedy. This is why I have lost all confidence in the Republican Party's business concept. Like gun laws or the lack of them, a mass tragedy in the making. One plane crash can kill hundreds.

 

[JAG89]

When planes have computer programs that defy the physics of lift (Bernoulli's equation for pressure differential of fluid flow), that plane wasn't meant to fly.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LMDxv96XluY

 

[JAG89]

Once Black engineers started taking over government sector jobs, the Republican Party found ways to eliminate those jobs by deregulating and downsizing governments. It's no coincident that the young Black engineer in Virginia Beach, VA snapped. They have yet to find a motive on why he snapped. Nowadays, a lot of technical decisions are being made by individuals who have zero technical skills or someone with political ties and just a management background. That's some very scary shit!!!

 

[JAG89]

This plane is basically history. Boeing's greed led to this. Business Managers aren't qualified to design planes.

Boeing is halting production of the embattled 737 Max starting in January

Boeing has announced that it will suspend production of the 737 Max starting in January as it waits for the embattled plane to be recertified to return to service.

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[Olde Hornet]

I am shocked that the FAA did not cave to this disaster of Boeing's on making, Boeing keep doing things to make it worse.

FAA to Boeing: Stop Telling People the MAX Is Coming Back

Last week, a critical discussion between the FAA and Boeing's CEO regarding the 737 MAX's return-to-service took place.

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FAA to Boeing: Stop Telling People the MAX Is Coming Back

Last week, a critical discussion between the FAA and Boeing’s CEO regarding the 737 MAX’s return-to-service took place. FAA Administrator, Stephen Dickson, called a meeting with Boeing CEO, Dennis Muilenburg, to tell him to “pull back on public statements about an imminent return to service for the 737 MAX” as many believe that Boeing’s current goal is far-fetched and unrealistic.

“Back Off”

The FAA is not happy with Boeing’s public statements, suggesting they were aimed at putting pressure on the agency to quickly sign off on the MAX’s airworthiness. In an email, the authority said, “The purpose of the meeting is to ensure Boeing is clear on FAA’s expectations regarding the ongoing review of the 737 MAX. The Administrator is concerned that Boeing continues to pursue a return-to-service schedule that is not realistic. The perception that some of Boeing’s public statements have been designed to force FAA into taking quicker action.”

Dickson told Muilenburg, “Boeing’s focus should be on the quality and timeliness of data submittals for FAA review” and emphasized, “FAA’s certification requirements must be 100% complete before return to service.” He also made sure that Muilenburg understood “that FAA controls the review process” and that safety professionals will be conducting a full, thorough review of the MAX, regardless of how long it takes.

 

[JAG89]

What do you expect from individuals who see their profit margin slipping. This would be a good time if one of those big defense aerospace industry challenge Boeing in designing a medium size commercial airplane. Boeing shouldn't be the only American company building planes.

 

[CEE DOG]

What do you expect from individuals who see their profit margin slipping. This would be a good time if one of those big defense aerospace industry challenge Boeing in designing a medium size commercial airplane. Boeing shouldn't be the only American company building planes.

Airbus which isn't a America company is located in Alabama a red state who loves the maniac in office..... That's part of the problem

 

[JAG89]

Airbus which isn't a America company is located in Alabama a red state who loves the maniac in office..... That's part of the problem

Airbus only has assembly and maintenance facilities in Alabama. All their design concepts come from Europe. It's similar to these foreign car assembly plants. BMW has a commercial that says, "Engineered in Germany, built in the USA". Our only hope for future design concepts is only with the defense industry. Corporate greed and Republican politicians have dumbing down America that foreign industries are leaving use behind. Americans are content as laborers, which eventually that will get replace with innovative technologies. Autonomous trucking is a perfect example of this in the next decade. This new generation are more concerned about rap artists and making money than STEM technology. President Obama tried to reverse that by putting more money into STEM research projects, which is how the solar industry got going. The person currently in the WH is in complete opposition of President Obama's initiatives. The scary part, the butt hole in the WH is now trying to give away our technological edge we have in the defense industry and racist White folks are too racist to see it.

 

[JAG89]

When it rains, it pours. Boeing needs to get the bean counters (bottomline managers) completely out of the equation. The reward comes after they get it right. At least reach the lower orbit the International Space Station (ISS) orbits.

Boeing Starliner fails key NASA mission as autonomous flight system malfunctions

It was the latest setback for the aerospace giant after the 737 Max production delays.

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[Olde Hornet]

Lets be clear, this is ANOTHER known problem.

Boeing has uncovered another potential design flaw with the 737 Max

Hundreds of 737 Max jets are sitting, grounded, as Boeing awaits approval from aviation regulators for the troubled plane to return to flight. But now, the company has discovered yet another potential hurdle.

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Boeing has uncovered another potential design flaw with the 737 Max

The plane was grounded worldwide in March after two crashes that killed 346 people. The company determined a software fix was likely to correct the issue with the automatic safety feature that caused the crashes.

However, as part of a December audit of the plane's safety ordered by the US Federal Aviation Administration, Boeing (BA) found "previously unreported concerns" with wiring in the 737 Max, according to a report earlier Sunday from the New York Times. The company informed the FAA last month that it is looking into whether two sections of wiring that control the tail of the plane are too close together and could cause a short circuit — and potentially a crash, if pilots did not react appropriately -— the Times reported, citing a senior Boeing engineer and three people familiar with the matter.

A Boeing spokesperson confirmed the report to CNN Business on Sunday, saying the issue was identified as part of a "rigorous process" to ensure the plane's safety.

 

[Olde Hornet]

Damning - Boeing messages reveal efforts to manipulate regulators of 737 Max

'Damning' Boeing messages reveal efforts to manipulate regulators of 737 Max

The "communications do not reflect the company we are and need to be, and they are completely unacceptable," Boeing said.

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Boeing employees boasted about bullying regulators to approve the now-grounded 737 Max without requiring pilots to undergo simulator training while others raised safety concerns and complained about lax standards, according to a trove of internal documents the company released on Thursday.

The contents of the more than 100 pages of internal messages present a fresh crisis for Boeing, which is struggling to regain its reputation after two fatal crashes of the 737 Max that killed 346 people and months of revelations that showed how the company designed a flawed airliner and sold thousands of them around the world.

Boeing shared the messages with the Federal Aviation Administration and lawmakers, one of whom called them “damning.”

In messages from April 2017, one Boeing employee told another: “This airplane is designed by clowns who in turn are supervised by monkeys.”

 

[Olde Hornet]

You know its bad when the mouth piece of corporate america is having this on their website!

‘Boeing has not learned its lesson.’ Downgrade warning, lawmaker criticism make for rough first day for new CEO

'Boeing has not learned its lesson.' Downgrade warning, lawmaker criticism make for rough first day for new CEO

Hours after becoming Boeing CEO, David Calhoun was hit with a ratings-downgrade warning and criticism from lawmakers over a potential bonus.

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The decade-long Boeing board member took the reins on Monday, tasked with cleaning up the company’s image, internal culture, relationship with regulators and airlines, as well as Boeing’s finances after two fatal crashes of its best-selling plane, the Boeing 737 Max.

Calhoun, a veteran of General Electric aviation and Blackstone Group, will receive a $7 million bonus if he gets regulators to clear the Max to fly again, among other performance targets, the company said. That drew the ire of some lawmakers who have criticized the company for sacrificing safety to make airplanes a better sell — and rewarding executives for it.

“This payment represents a clear financial incentive for Mr. Calhoun to pressure regulators into ungrounding the 737 Max, as well as rush the investigations and reforms needed to guarantee public safety,” Democratic Sens. Edward Markey of Massachusetts, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin wrote to Boeing’s board on Monday. “We believe that this bonus would be unconscionable in the face of two tragic plane crashes and proof that Boeing has not learned its lesson.”

 

[Olde Hornet]

737 Max crisis could cost Boeing as much as $20 billion, Wall Street estimates

737 Max crisis could cost Boeing as much as $20 billion, Wall Street estimates

Repeated delays to the return of the 737 Max will likely lead Boeing to take another charge when it reports later this month, analysts say.

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A year ago, Boeing posted record revenues topping $100 billion with hopes of delivering a chart-topping number of airplanes in 2019, including hundreds of 737 Max jetliners.

The news isn’t going to be so rosy on its fourth-quarter earnings call this year. Those bestselling planes were grounded worldwide in March after the second of two fatal crashes that claimed 346 lives. The crisis cost former CEO Dennis Muilenburg his job, prompted Boeing to suspend production of the planes, drove down orders to the lowest level in decades, hurt its supply chain, and wracked up costs that are now around $10 billion. Wall Street is expecting more bad news.

The Jan. 29 earnings call will be the first for new CEO Dave Calhoun, who took the helm on Monday, days after the company released a trove of shocking internal messages that showed employees dissing regulators and airlines and boasting about getting them to approve less time-consuming training. One showed employees complaining that Lion Air, the operator of the first 737 Max that crashed, wanted simulator training for pilots before they flew the planes.

 

[Olde Hornet]

New 737 MAX software flaw found during tests, Boeing sticks to return timeline

New 737 MAX software flaw found during tests, Boeing sticks to return timeline

LONDON/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Flight testers discovered another flaw in the software of Boeing Co's grounded 737 MAX, the plane that suffered two fatal crashes, though the company and the top U.S. aviation regulator said on Thursday the issue most likely could be fixed without extending the target

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LONDON/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Flight testers discovered another flaw in the software of Boeing Co's <BA.N> grounded 737 MAX, the plane that suffered two fatal crashes, though the company and the top U.S. aviation regulator said on Thursday the issue most likely could be fixed without extending the target date for the plane's return to service.

U.S. Federal Aviation Administrator Steve Dickson mentioned the new flaw at an airline industry event in London, but said he did not think it "will be a significant delay" in the aircraft's return.

The 737 MAX was grounded in March after two crashes killed 346 people. Boeing has had several setbacks in its efforts to update software that played a role in both crashes and win approval for the jets to fly again.

In January, the FAA and Boeing said they were reviewing a wiring issue that could potentially cause a short circuit on the grounded 737 MAX. The new issue involves an indicator light associated with the stabilizer trim system that incorrectly illuminated in the flight deck during testing.

 

[Olde Hornet]

US regulators will force Boeing to rewire 737 MAX jets: report

US regulators will force Boeing to rewire 737 MAX jets: report

US aviation regulators plan to require Boeing to rewire all 737 MAX aircraft before allowing the troubled planes fly again, the Wall Street Journal has reported. The MAX has been grounded worldwide since an Ethiopian Airlines flight crashed shortly after take-off last March, less than six...

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US aviation regulators plan to require Boeing to rewire all 737 MAX aircraft before allowing the troubled planes fly again, the Wall Street Journal has reported.

The MAX has been grounded worldwide since an Ethiopian Airlines flight crashed shortly after take-off last March, less than six months after the same model was involved in a similar fatal accident in Indonesia.

Both accidents saw uncontrolled drops in the aircraft's nose in the moments before the planes crashed, which investigators have blamed on the model's anti-stall flight system.

Regulators have since concluded that the current wiring layout violated safety standards to prevent short-circuits that could cause similar sharp drops in aircraft pitch, the newspaper said Sunday.

 

[Olde Hornet]

This company made a conscious decision to make planes with defects that killed people!

Now they want the government to bail them out, I SAY HELL NO!!!

THE BOARD AND ALL THE TOP LEVEL EXECUTIVE SHOULD RESIGN WITHOUT GOLDEN PARACHUTES! Only if that happens do I support federal help.

I am sharing this with my Senators and Congress person this week. Agent orange waxed on about saving Boeing, they do not deserve it.

 

[JAG89]

Boeing needs to remove ALL bean counters (bottomline managers) completely from their research, development, and design and hire more people from the scientific community, which is what originally made them great.

Repositioning larger engines in order to make them fit will drastically change the aerodynamics of any plane, which is something bean counters are completely clueless on.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR3WDrbz5oZbWbHV3nmqtv7LBAqvcURvCSyxQX1N094j_bVe5_TKTD5SaCE&feature=share&v=H2tuKiiznsY