Attack Dog
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I love how Coach Reed responded to those people who were making comments.
Ed Reed’s comments about HBCU’s
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SUJagFan
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Broken mentalities.
Not concerned about the conditions. Only concerned about putting up a good front.
Not going to do anything to fix the conditions, but nobody better not say anything about it.
Say something and we'll cry real tears. Get all of our buddies to cry with us. Feel real smug about ourselves and wonder what's wrong with you when you're looking at us like we're crazy.
"Damn shame." - Ed Reed
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It doesn't make sense, but Sims came in behind Brian Jenkins. Some peolpe are quick to forget when it comes down to winning or losing. We have alums from Texas Southern still asking for Johnnie Cole to be given another chance.
SUJagFan
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I'm also going to say this: Some folks NEED to be cussed out.
That's the problem now. Handling folks with kid gloves, walking on eggshells, and being "professional" while allowing them to do piss-poor jobs.
Some people need to be cussed out.
Some folks need a foot on their neck and another up their behind (figuratively) while you're cussing them out.
Only mediocre people have a problem with holding people accountable. Have a problem with holding people to high standards.
As long as you let those people influence the decision-making and performance, you'll always have a substandard operation. Always.
High achievers can't listen to or follow mediocre people. Even when they try to use their "hurt feelings" to manipulate you into letting them slide by the easy way. Into letting them skate.
Hell naw. Cussing your ass out is the beginning ....
That's the problem now. Handling folks with kid gloves, walking on eggshells, and being "professional" while allowing them to do piss-poor jobs.
Some people need to be cussed out.
Some folks need a foot on their neck and another up their behind (figuratively) while you're cussing them out.
Only mediocre people have a problem with holding people accountable. Have a problem with holding people to high standards.
As long as you let those people influence the decision-making and performance, you'll always have a substandard operation. Always.
High achievers can't listen to or follow mediocre people. Even when they try to use their "hurt feelings" to manipulate you into letting them slide by the easy way. Into letting them skate.
Hell naw. Cussing your ass out is the beginning ....
In_The_662
Deeeeep In The Delta.....
Why was this thread merged? It's a completely different Coach Reed who didn't mention Ed or Deion but a general statement
In_The_662
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You would be surprised at how many people still wanted Totten as head coach/AD simply because of Jerry smh
Dog81
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97,
What is your issue with the following statement?
We have to hold all universities including PWI's and HBCU's accountable for proper business decisions. Whether that is facilities, fiscal, community involvement, academics or athletics.
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I just loved how my thread was taken over by the mods
Basebone1898
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Poor way to express yourself brother Reed.
MetroPhillyTiger
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Why change if folks keep taking the job under the same conditions?
No need to make yourself look like a fool cussing people out. Expose them to the media like folks with half a brain do.
Principle: You reap what you sow.
SUJagFan
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Touche'.
At least you're slowly admitting conditions need to change. It seems that Ed Reed is not willing to accept the conditions. Hopefully, things change for the better for everybody.
BobbyBlueBlamm
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You've never cussed any of your employers out in your life and we both know it. Not in public nor behind closed doors. Whatever issues you may have on your job, you take whatever the white men paying you dish out and keep your mouth shut and your head low. Maybe that's why you get excited when you see people like Reed disrespecting the Black people that are paying him, because you see what you can't be. That makes you a coward as well as a hypocrite.
SUJagFan
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You're quite presumptuous about me.
My employer is myself. Before that, it was my father. I wasn't raised to be a wage slave for the white man.
You're right in one way. I've never even said a cuss word in front of my father. Much less cussed him out. I also never heard my father say a cuss word. Ever. My father had very high standards.
However, people who know me would laugh at you for thinking I've never cussed anyone. I love the "that makes you a coward and a hypocrite" statement. Hilarious. You put some thought and effort into that. I love it.
But, that's beside the point. The point is - it happens - and it's effective. In athletics, business, the military, and so forth. Some people perform better after being chewed out. There is an audio clip of Kirby Smart's national championship pregame speech floating around the internet. Laced with cuss words. We all know what they did to TCU. Georgia performed at a high level that night. Can we say cussing caused the blowout? Of course not. Yet, you and I both know that some people straighten up when they've been addressed with a few choice words.
MetroPhillyTiger
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Never said he was wrong about the change needed. Said he handled it wrong.
Which is why he had to apologize. Folks should accept that and move on.
SUJagFan
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Well, on that, we agree.
I care less about how he handled it. Don't think he had to apologize. The bottom line is how he handled it evoked a response. I'm willing to bet the BCU administration and staff are more attentive to Ed's needs and concerns now. So, maybe, at the end of the day, cussing was effective.
"All's well that ends well." - William Shakespeare
Rated R Superstar
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Meh. Kirby Smart could have read them dudes Green Eggs and Ham and they would have blown out TCU.You're quite presumptuous about me.
My employer is myself. Before that, it was my father. I wasn't raised to be a wage slave for the white man.
You're right in one way. I've never even said a cuss word in front of my father. Much less cussed him out. I also never heard my father say a cuss word. Ever. My father had very high standards.
However, people who know me would laugh at you for thinking I've never cussed anyone. I love the "that makes you a coward and a hypocrite" statement. Hilarious. You put some thought and effort into that. I love it.
But, that's beside the point. The point is - it happens - and it's effective. In athletics, business, the military, and so forth. Some people perform better after being chewed out. There is an audio clip of Kirby Smart's national championship pregame speech floating around the internet. Laced with cuss words. We all know what they did to TCU. Georgia performed at a high level that night. Can we say cussing caused the blowout? Of course not. Yet, you and I both know that some people straighten up when they've been addressed with a few choice words.
In_The_662
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97JSULEGEND
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But Ed can't begin to understand that piece with his limited time on campus or within the HBCU world. Listening to him he has no idea about those things. That's my point.
MetroPhillyTiger
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When are you going to your campus and do the same thing Ed did?
Your buddy never answered this question.
SUJagFan
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Just a thought:
Black people let coaches curse their kids all the time. Most adults who were athletes have been cursed royally by coaches. Black coaches and white coaches. Almost all accept getting cursed as part of the deal.
We watch 30 for 30, Hard Knocks, or Friday Night Lights and watch Black athletes getting cussed incessantly. No one complains. No one calls the coaches "unprofessional".
Why?
How come your children (or even you at one point) can get cussed out, but not the AD? Not the President?
Why are y'all so bothered about the administration being called out, but you're unbothered when your child is being cussed to run faster, jump higher, and make fewer mistakes?
Matter of fact, Ed Reed was cussing players in those clips too. Where's the uproar about cussing those players?
Make it make sense.
Black people let coaches curse their kids all the time. Most adults who were athletes have been cursed royally by coaches. Black coaches and white coaches. Almost all accept getting cursed as part of the deal.
We watch 30 for 30, Hard Knocks, or Friday Night Lights and watch Black athletes getting cussed incessantly. No one complains. No one calls the coaches "unprofessional".
Why?
How come your children (or even you at one point) can get cussed out, but not the AD? Not the President?
Why are y'all so bothered about the administration being called out, but you're unbothered when your child is being cussed to run faster, jump higher, and make fewer mistakes?
Matter of fact, Ed Reed was cussing players in those clips too. Where's the uproar about cussing those players?
Make it make sense.
SUJagFan
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I don't have a buddy. I stand alone in my arguments.
If I were in a position to make substantial positive change at a university, I can't guarantee that some people's feelings won't get hurt. I'll concede that you're right in that may not be my preferred method of trying to make progress, but I still can't promise you that it would never happen.
You can't tiptoe your way to success. Every successful person has people who "hate" them. Whether they curse or not. People who change organizations have to be willing to rock the boat or shake the table.
Just my opinion.
SUJagFan
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A person curses players and it is "coaching". The same person curses administrators and it is "unprofessional".
smh
Black folks are some well-trained slaves. Servile and docile to the "boss". Yassuh boss.
Just because the masses of you agree doesn't mean you're right. Just means the masses are conditioned to be slaves.
smh
Black folks are some well-trained slaves. Servile and docile to the "boss". Yassuh boss.
Just because the masses of you agree doesn't mean you're right. Just means the masses are conditioned to be slaves.
Attack Dog
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I wish you would stop with this foolishness. All of those behaviors coaches used to get away with they can't anymore. Everything is not meant for TV..
Besides some disgruntled postal workers, those other people don't act that way. Here in the U.S. there are even penalties for cussing out/customers, let alone your boss.
Whether a sole proprietorship or a cooperation , the leadership must conduct themselves properly.
I will say this, Ed Reed is in a leadership position in an organization which has a chain of command which has a grievance process. He did not follow it.
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