Which SWAC school is next to hire a white head football coach?


Basebone1898 said:
1. Until Fobbs wins 3 or 4 SWAC titles, he will never get a FBS shot. All of this interview mess is just to show people that "a black guy was considered" for the vacancy. Also, no Louisiana HBCU will ever have a white head football coach. Mark it.

2. AAMU could possibly hire someone, but their coach is not the only coach in the hot seat.

3. Agreed
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Can't see that happening at SU or GSU as well. I have family on both sides of the Louisiana wall and they both agree. Louisiana folks seem to have a more "fight fire with fire" approach to things. It's almost like "if in-state PWI football program's won't hire qualified Black American Coaches, Southern and Granbling won't hire qualified White American coaches."

I was shocked that Nicholls State didn't hire Lionel Washington from Tulane, but my Lousiana family and friends weren't shocked at all. What he did at Tulane in 2013 with so many young players was great. Nicholls State should have given him the job.
 
Oh, I agree that Valley will be next. Those two JUCO Head Coaches that someone mentioned above would be good candidates if Comegy strikes out. Comegy usually shows improvement after 3 classes. Maybe Valley wins a few games this season.
 
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JayRob said:
I was thinking JSU and Texas Southern in Houston.
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Alabama State is in the middle of Montgomery. AAMU is 3 minutes from downtown HSV... both cities are larger than Jackson. I guess Im not sure of what your definition of urban university is.
 
="SWAC&MEAC Degrees, post: 2504681, member: 10150"]Can't see that happening at SU or GSU as well. I have family on both sides of the Louisiana wall and they both agree. Louisiana folks seem to have a more "fight fire with fire" approach to things. It's almost like "if in-state PWI football program's won't hire qualified Black American Coaches, Southern and Granbling won't hire qualified White American coaches."

I was shocked that Nicholls State didn't hire Lionel Washington from Tulane, but my Lousiana family and friends weren't shocked at all. What he did at Tulane in 2013 with so many young players was great. Nicholls State should have given him the job.
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Bingo, Keno.
 
wahines said:
There is a better chance of another white coach being hired in the SWAC before a black coach gets hired in Division One Football.
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Which is sad..............why should we freely give up one of the FEW opportunies we as black coaches have in the first place????
 
CEE DOG said:
I'm not prejudiced. I'm not racist. I'm for right. One skin color doesn't bother me. It's hate and racism which I don't support from blacks nor whites. If you can do the job I support you.
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That is great if the folks who are in the majority in this country felt the same way, and everyone had equal opprtunity at ALL coaching openings. But they don't. We have a lot of good, deserving black coaches who don't have equal opportunities at all places, so HBCUs should exhaust ALL ALTERNATIVES before giving away one of the few opportunities we have.
 
I believe in black first, but in this case the dude deserves the job. He can win on the yard. This is what we need at this time. We need a local coach. We don't have any brothers local coaching at this time who can take us there. local meaning in Huntsville. This dude can. At this point it's not about my beliefs, but what is good for my university and Doss is that dude.


WalkWitaPanther said:
That is great if the folks who are in the majority in this country felt the same way, and everyone had equal opprtunity at ALL coaching openings. But they don't. We have a lot of good, deserving black coaches who don't have equal opportunities at all places, so HBCUs should exhaust ALL ALTERNATIVES before giving away one of the few opportunities we have.
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CEE DOG said:
I believe in black first, but in this case the dude deserves the job. He can win on the yard. This is what we need at this time. We need a local coach. We don't have any brothers local coaching at this time who can take us there. local meaning in Huntsville. This dude can. At this point it's not about my beliefs, but what is good for my university and Doss is that dude.
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I respectfully disagree with the notion that y'all need a local guy. Why does the savior of your Division I basketball program have to come from Huntsville??? That seems so short-sighted to me.
 
WalkWitaPanther said:
I respectfully disagree with the notion that y'all need a local guy. Why does the savior of your Division I basketball program have to come from Huntsville??? That seems so short-sighted to me.
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I can only speak from the view point that I see we need right now. Others views might be different, but as someone that's been associated with A&M for 30 years I know how folks operate in this area. These folks are different believe me. I've never seen anything like these people in this area. They're just like California blacks just located in the deep south. Huntsville has a large concentration of HBCU grads who act like they attended PWC's. Different type of people believe me.
 
CEE DOG said:
I can only speak from the view point that I see we need right now. Others views might be different, but as someone that's been associated with A&M for 30 years I know how folks operate in this area. These folks are different believe me. I've never seen anything like these people in this area. They're just like California blacks just located in the deep south. Huntsville has a large concentration of HBCU grads who act like they attended PWC's. Different type of people believe me.
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Well I wish you guys the best. I know each school has to do what's best for them, but this subject is very personal to me, as this is my profession. And I just know how limited the opportunities are for "us" out the gate.
 
CEE DOG said:
I can only speak from the view point that I see we need right now. Others views might be different, but as someone that's been associated with A&M for 30 years I know how folks operate in this area. These folks are different believe me. I've never seen anything like these people in this area. They're just like California blacks just located in the deep south. Huntsville has a large concentration of HBCU grads who act like they attended PWC's. Different type of people believe me.
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Doss has proven himself. He's a great coach and would be a great hire for A&M or Bama State. This is 2016 we can't reserve positions at our universities based on race. The position should go to the perceived most qualified person regardless of race. That's what the Civil Rights movement was all about.
 
J C said:
Doss has proven himself. He's a great coach and would be a great hire for A&M or Bama State. This is 2016 we can't reserve positions at our universities based on race. The position should go to the perceived most qualified person regardless of race. That's what the Civil Rights movement was all about.
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OMG........The Civil Rights Movement???? Dude, the CRM was about us being treated as equals in this country. WE ARE NOT TREATED AS EQUALS IN THE COACHING PROFESSION. So, if "we" don't hire "us"...........who will??

We can't reserve coaching positions at our schools................why the hell not???

Wait a minute.........................................................you thought you had me there, huh Stacey Dash..............smgdh
 
WalkWitaPanther said:
But for someone from Alcorn to say, "well we tried it once and it worked, why not try it again," indirectly associates white with good.
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I understand it being a personal deal with you, but I'm sorry if you feel the best person for the job should not get it based on color, well that's just backwards thinking. Why hinder a program "keeping it real" when there is a chance to make it better. Sometimes you just got to go outside the box to improve programs. I don't associate white with good, I associate the best man for the job with winning. That's it.
 



WalkWitaPanther said:
OMG........The Civil Rights Movement???? Dude, the CRM was about us being treated as equals in this country. WE ARE NOT TREATED AS EQUALS IN THE COACHING PROFESSION. So, if "we" don't hire "us"...........who will??

We can't reserve coaching positions at our schools................why the hell not???

Wait a minute.........................................................you thought you had me there, huh Stacey Dash..............smgdh
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OMG, I don't think we have the same understanding of what the Civil Rights movement was all about.
 
Doss could come from Syria for all I care. As long as his old wrinkled white ass can WIN.

These boys lost to TxSU tonight. Which means AT BEST we split with Valley, Bama State & Gram, while taking 2 losses from everybody else.

The experiment is OVER. Get me a QUALIFIED COACH with a track record and stop doing folks favors, and get some QUALIFIED ADMINISTRATORS who know how to facilitate and get out of the way.

Sick of this bullshat. We operate like a damn crooked ass family church.
 
goodolebrave said:
I understand it being a personal deal with you, but I'm sorry if you feel the best person for the job should not get it based on color, well that's just backwards thinking. Why hinder a program "keeping it real" when there is a chance to make it better. Sometimes you just got to go outside the box to improve programs. I don't associate white with good, I associate the best man for the job with winning. That's it.
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I am "keeping it real" because I am coming from the perspective of person who will have to deal with this very subject until the day I retire............not as a fan of an athletic program. Let me ask you a question.............Do you feel that the PWIs in all of DI, II, III, NAIA, JUCO, etc. demonstrate equal opportunity hiring practices as it relates to head football coaches and coordinators?
 
J C said:
OMG, I don't think we have the same understanding of what the Civil Rights movement was all about.
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JC, same question........................Do you feel that the PWIs in all of DI, II, III, NAIA, JUCO, etc. demonstrate equal opportunity hiring practices as it relates to head football coaches and coordinators?
 
WalkWitaPanther said:
I am "keeping it real" because I am coming from the perspective of person who will have to deal with this very subject until the day I retire............not as a fan of an athletic program. Let me ask you a question.............Do you feel that the PWIs in all of DI, II, III, NAIA, JUCO, etc. demonstrate equal opportunity hiring practices as it relates to head football coaches and coordinators?
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I get what you are saying but hell, your own color will mess over you just as quick as they do. I'm coming from what's best for a program. Without Jay at Alcorn there would be no Simmons at PV. The man hired good black assistants to help him.
And I explained why the PWI don't hire more blacks, its because you got to work the boosters in college. Boosters run the bigger PWI progams. Not many blacks can work those older whites for that money. And that's not just the south.
 
J C said:
Doss has proven himself. He's a great coach and would be a great hire for A&M or Bama State. This is 2016 we can't reserve positions at our universities based on race. The position should go to the perceived most qualified person regardless of race. That's what the Civil Rights movement was all about.
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And that's where you're wrong. It's about equal opportunity for ALL people. They don't do it, so we should continue to give all people the free opportunities?
This is the kind of mentality that will keep setting us back. We give up our own to outsiders too much but them White folks won't dare do it so easily.
Now hiring dude as an assistant would be kind of fine, but don't give him the keys to the car.
 
WalkWitaPanther said:
I am "keeping it real" because I am coming from the perspective of person who will have to deal with this very subject until the day I retire............not as a fan of an athletic program. Let me ask you a question.............Do you feel that the PWIs in all of DI, II, III, NAIA, JUCO, etc. demonstrate equal opportunity hiring practices as it relates to head football coaches and coordinators?
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They know it doesn't happen at PWI schools. They totally overlook that for the sake of showing somebody they can win with a White coach.
There are only 5 Black coaches out of 128 in FBS programs. That's enough evidence for me to see that winning or not, White folks don't give a damn about hiring Black coaches, but we all over here slobbing on hiring White folks to our programs.
Them White folks still hold on to that good ole boy system, but some of these Black folks are easily overlooking this and subconsciously saying that there are NO Black men around who can do the job better than a White coach. Sounds like self-hatred to me.
If you're going to hire a White coach, do it as an assistant just like the White folks are doing it. When they start hiring us for jobs in mass, then we can reconsider, but until then, Black head coaches for Black schools.
 
goodolebrave said:
I get what you are saying but hell, your own color will mess over you just as quick as they do. I'm coming from what's best for a program. Without Jay at Alcorn there would be no Simmons at PV. The man hired good black assistants to help him.
And I explained why the PWI don't hire more blacks, its because you got to work the boosters in college. Boosters run the bigger PWI progams. Not many blacks can work those older whites for that money. And that's not just the south.
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How do you know this when they aren't even given the chance to do what you just claimed they can't do? You've shown no evidence whatsoever to back up that statement. You don't know that any more than White folks do.
We're so easily and readily able to sell our own birthright to White folks, but they're not so willing to do the same for us. That's assbackwards, self-defeating and self-loathing to say the least.
Seems like somebody should be named "goodoleboy" instead of goodolebrave.
 
Believe me I understand your point. We all face these racist pricks in our professional experiences. Personally I believe in hiring the most qualified brother, but unfortunately our HBCU'S hire the most unqualified brothers to run our programs. I would love a Mike Davis at A&M but with the messy administration we have they would hire Tyrone from the recreational center because he is the bro in law of the VP. I'm not going to put our business out here but at this point all I'm going to say is we need a coach with local ties to get us back on track. At this point to me its not a black or white thing its a we need to win thing.


WalkWitaPanther said:
Well I wish you guys the best. I know each school has to do what's best for them, but this subject is very personal to me, as this is my profession. And I just know how limited the opportunities are for "us" out the gate.
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