Which SWAC school is next to hire a white head football coach?

[WalkWitaPanther]

I get what you are saying but hell, your own color will mess over you just as quick as they do. I'm coming from what's best for a program. Without Jay at Alcorn there would be no Simmons at PV. The man hired good black assistants to help him.
And I explained why the PWI don't hire more blacks, its because you got to work the boosters in college. Boosters run the bigger PWI progams. Not many blacks can work those older whites for that money. And that's not just the south.

Right!!!!!!! You just said it!!!!!!! The people that "run" PWI programs hire their own..................so why can't we????

 

[WalkWitaPanther]

They know it doesn't happen at PWI schools. They totally overlook that for the sake of showing somebody they can win with a White coach.
There are only 5 Black coaches out of 128 in FBS programs. That's enough evidence for me to see that winning or not, White folks don't give a damn about hiring Black coaches, but we all over here slobbing on hiring White folks to our programs.
Them White folks still hold on to that good ole boy system, but some of these Black folks are easily overlooking this and subconsciously saying that there are NO Black men around who can do the job better than a White coach. Sounds like self-hatred to me.
If you're going to hire a White coach, do it as an assistant just like the White folks are doing it. When they start hiring us for jobs in mass, then we can reconsider, but until then, Black head coaches for Black schools.

It's amazing that we complain about the "good ole boy" system that the White folks use when we are directly affected by it. But.......when we have the power to employ the same system we somehow act like it's wrong to use it. I wonder if we still have those "mental shackles" on us. Do we still wonder what "Mr. Charlie" will think about us even though we have the power to do just WTF we want to do????

 

[WalkWitaPanther]

Believe me I understand your point. We all face these racist pricks in our professional experiences. Personally I believe in hiring the most qualified brother, but unfortunately our HBCU'S hire the most unqualified brothers to run our programs. I would love a Mike Davis at A&M but with the messy administration we have they would hire Tyrone from the recreational center because he is the bro in law of the VP. I'm not going to put our business out here but at this point all I'm going to say is we need a coach with local ties to get us back on track. At this point to me its not a black or white thing its a we need to win thing.

I agree that first, and foremost, we have to hire the best possible candidate. But I believe that at HBCUs a black candidate should be option 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.....lol. Let white be option 6..........hell, wasn't Hopson like option 5 at So. Miss????

I'm sorry you guys are going through that type of situation at A&M.

 

[goodolebrave]

I agree that first, and foremost, we have to hire the best possible candidate. But I believe that at HBCUs a black candidate should be option 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.....lol. Let white be option 6..........hell, wasn't Hopson like option 5 at So. Miss????

I'm sorry you guys are going through that type of situation at A&M.

Hopson was option 5 at Alcorn. We had become a joke having 4 coaches in less than 6 years. So the school went outside the box. And it paid BIG dividends. I'm not saying that's the only way to go but who can question the results he produced? So that's what my platform is based on, 2 titles in four years. Winning is winning regardless of color.

 

[Kendrick]

I understand what @WalkWitaPanther saying.

The football coach, regardless of the school with the exception of a few, is the face of the university. That guy, by default, becomes the most influential and powerful person on campus.

It is noble and progressive to want a school to hire the best man for the job regardless of race.

But image, and who represents the football team, matters to alums and influential individuals associated with the school. That person ultimately represents them and how they are perceived.

And it is why black coaches don't get hired at FBS schools. Some of those schools don't want a black man to represent them even if he's qualified.

There was a divide in the room when Hopson's name came up as candidate at Alcorn in 2012 because of that very premise.

And there were a lot of alums, and folks elsewhere, who questioned why this white man -- whose privilege has historically lied in his skin color -- was hired over a black candidate. A black candidate who has had to historically overcome his skin color to gain the opportunities the privileged white guy has gotten.

I could see why -- even with the success of Hopson -- that some schools and people will be hesitant to support the hiring of a white coach.

 

[WalkWitaPanther]

I understand what @WalkWitaPanther saying.

The football coach, regardless of the school with the exception of a few, is the face of the university. That guy by default becomes the most influential and powerful person on campus.

It is noble and progressive to want a school to hire the best man for the job regardless of race.

But image, and who represents the football team, matters to alums and influential individuals associated with the school, because that person ultimately represents them and how they are perceived.

And it is why black coaches don't get hired at FBS schools. Some of those schools don't want a black man to represent them even if he's qualified.

There was a divide in the room when Hopson's name came up as candidate at Alcorn in 2012 because of that very premise.

And there were a lot of alums and folks elsewhere who questioned why this white man, whose privilege has historically lied in his skin color, was hired over a black candidate, who has had to historically overcome his skin color to gain the opportunities the privileged white guy has gotten.

I could see why even with the success of Hopson, that some schools and people will be hesitant to support the hiring of a white coach.

Mane.......let'em know!!!!!!!!!

 

[J C]

JC, same question........................Do you feel that the PWIs in all of DI, II, III, NAIA, JUCO, etc. demonstrate equal opportunity hiring practices as it relates to head football coaches and coordinators?

No, but it does not mean we have to behave in a similar manner. Best of luck in chosen profession.

 

[JayRob]

No, but it does not mean we have to behave in a similar manner. Best of luck in chosen profession.

I hear that nonsense all the time, but we keep digging ourselves deeper and deeper in a hole by giving up what's ours, while they continue to help their own even if their own's not doing a good job.
That's just like saying, "turn the other cheek". What self-loving person will keep on giving his enemy the benefit of the doubt thinking his enemy's going to change in spite of the fact that he hasn't changed in 400 plus years? It's called being naive and being gullible.

I don't see Chinese, Japanese, Latinos, Jews, Hispanics, and other groups giving up what's theirs, but Black folks, we keep giving away ownership of ours to other folks time and time again until we have ownership of little to nothing. Then we start complaining that there are no Black owned anything and why? Because we gave it away to some other group.