Howard U. Debunking Myths About Black People


JAG89 said:
So I guess we caught Howard University School of Communications making false claims in the article. I bet they have several graduates lining up to be a Fox News reporter. Should we say we just debunk the debunkers or maybe they are just too lazy to find out the truth on their own. LOL!!!!
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This is what I have been eluding to in many of my messages.
So is HU C@@ning? Is this selling out the people? Just asking....
 
JAG89 said:
So I guess we caught Howard University School of Communications making false claims in the article. I bet they have several graduates lining up to be a Fox News reporter. Should we say we just debunk the debunkers or maybe they are just too lazy to find out the truth on their own. LOL!!!!

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Where did HU tell a lie?
 



jag4life said:
Where did HU tell a lie?
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Did I say they lied? I said they made false claims that the Federal Government doesn't collect information by religion, which they quoted TruthBeTold.news instead of doing their own research. Now maybe you can call it a lie since you stated that you read in the abstract of the book entitled "Religion in the Freemarket" that the authors got their data from the fed, unless you were referring to something else.

In addition, economists contacted by TruthBeTold.news said some of the data cited, such as information about dollars circulating in the Jewish community, is questionable because the federal government does not collect information by religion. And researchers would be unable to get the information accurately from a survey of consumers.
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No matter how much one tries to defend Howard University School of Communications, the article was weak and left way too many questions concerning the life cycle of the dollar in the Black Community. This just proves that Howard University is not the big time research institution that they pretend to be.
 
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JAG89 said:
Did I say they lied? I said they made false claims that the Federal Government doesn't collect information by religion, which they quoted TruthBeTold.news instead of doing their own research. Now maybe you can call it a lie since you stated that you read in the abstract of the book entitled "Religion in the Freemarket" that the authors got their data from the fed, unless you were referring to something else.
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They don't according to the book you quoted. I said the authors did not get their data from the feds. They did their own research according to them by using a survey they created.

The book, by professors Barry A. Kosmin and Ariela Keysar of Trinity College in Hartford, Conn., is bassed on a major national survey which they conducted. The U.S. Census is prohibited from asking questions about religion, so this survey, the American Religious Identification Survey, contains the most complete and reliable source of data on religon in America today.
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http://www.amazon.com/Religion-Mark...5&sr=8-1&keywords=religion+in+the+free+market
 
jag4life said:
They don't according to the book you quoted. I said the authors did not get their data from the feds. They did their own research according to them by using a survey they created.



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That means Howard University is off the hook for lying, but they still could have done the same research WITHOUT data from the federal government just like the two professors Barry A. Kosmin and Ariela Keysar of Trinity College in Hartford, Conn. did. It sounds like Howard University is waiting on the government to collect the data for them, which is TOO sad for a respectable university.
 
*reading and lol'ing*

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... I thought they were asking for some more scrilla'. lol :D
 
Good move Howard for undertaking the challenge because black folks are studied quite a bit, and whatever negatives found, created or skewed, promoted loudly and perpetuated. Look forward to more of this info and hope they can withstand the overwhelming pooh poohing coming from all angles, including the folks they are trying to debunk the myths about....now those folks will be the most vocal about whatever perceived inaccuracies...they will spend plenty of time attempting to root them out...have no fear...
 
Black folks hate when someone show them just how much money they give to others. I still have yet to find a Black owned luxury car manufacturer. I guess debunking something with half ass studies without presenting any ACTUAL FIGURES justifies why they need to continue handing over their monies to others, which is why our kids don't need to understand such things as in-depth research with ACTUAL FIGURES. All our kids need to do is position themselves to make money and give it back to others, which is exactly what has been created in the gangsta rap industry. We love keeping Ford, Mercedes, Nissan, Toyota, etc. in business. They definitely don't need Black people on a level of completely understanding how they do business. All they need is for Black people to continue to buy their products (sh*t).
 
jag4life said:
Whoever made up the 6 hour figure should show their work. That's all that is being asked.
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I agree, but before I debunk that 6 hour figure, I'll do my own research to show a different figure. And who to say, it might be less than 6 hours. It seems like Howard University would have the resources through its Department of ECONOMICS to do such, but they fail short by letting their School of Communications say they debunk the ECONOMIC theory that the dollar's life cycle in the Black community is only 6 hours. Again, a half ass way to debunk a theory. IMO, Howard University forgot to answer the simple question, "What is the TRUE life cycle of the dollar in the Black Community?"
 
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JAG89 said:
I agree, but before I debunk that 6 hour figure, I'll do my own research to show a different figure. And who to say, it might be less than 6 hours. It seems like Howard University would have the resources through its Department of ECONOMICS to do such, but they fail short by letting their School of Communications say they debunk the ECONOMIC theory that the dollar's life cycle in the Black community is only 6 hours. Again, a half ass way to debunk a theory. IMO, Howard University forgot to answer the simple question, "What is the TRUE life cycle of the dollar in the Black Community?"
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How can it be any longer when we have so few black owned businesses.
The only real area where black dollars go overwhelmingly to black business is in the hair business. But even then it's only the labor, the products are purchased from others.

All these black earned dollars and we are barely active in industry. Keep your blinders on and just keep spending. Never mind that even illegal Mexican inhabitants have enough sense to set up their own businesses that serve their interests. In communities that were once majority black. Once they buy a house in that community odds are very slim that a black family will ever live in it again.
 
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Da Sleeper said:
How can it be any longer when we have so few black owned businesses.
The only real area where black dollars go overwhelmingly to black business is in the hair business. But even then it's only the labor, the products are purchased from others.

All these black earned dollars and we are barely active in industry. Keep your blinders on and just keep spending. Never mind that even illegal Mexican inhabitants have enough sense to set up their own businesses that serve their interests. In communities that were once majority black. Once they buy a house in that community odds are very slim that a black family will ever live in it again.
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We rather buy from others instead of understanding how to create things for ourselves. We are drastically losing the little land we do own in this country. We makeup 12% of the country's population, but we own less than 1% of all privately owned rural land in the United States.

Land ownership is a vital asset to all communities. Within the last century, African-American land ownership has rapidly declined. Comparing the U.S. Agriculture Census data on African-American farmland ownership for 1910 and 1997, it shows a drastic decline from its peak of 15 million acres in 1910 to 2.4 million acres in 1997. A recent study estimated that in the early 20th century, rural landownership among African-American farmers and non-farmers was between 16 and 19 million acres (Gilbert, J., 2002). The 1999 Agricultural Economics and Land Ownership Survey (AELOS), which assessed private rural landownership across race and use (i.e. farming, forestry, etc.), found that there are currently 68,000 African-American rural landowners and they own a total of approximately 7.7 million acres of land, less than 1% of all privately owned rural land in the United States. (AELOS, 1999). Sixty percent (60%) of which is owned by non-farmers. (AELOS, 1999). However, this acreage is valued at $14 billion. (AELOS, 1999). With rural landownership clearly being a significant economic resource base in the African-American community controls, why do African-Americans continue to lose their land?

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Da Sleeper said:
How can it be any longer when we have so few black owned businesses.
The only real area where black dollars go overwhelmingly to black business is in the hair business. But even then it's only the labor, the products are purchased from others.

All these black earned dollars and we are barely active in industry. Keep your blinders on and just keep spending. Never mind that even illegal Mexican inhabitants have enough sense to set up their own businesses that serve their interests. In communities that were once majority black. Once they buy a house in that community odds are very slim that a black family will ever live in it again.
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Well, I can't control where it flows after it leaves my hands but I make sure to hire and spend with black people.
1. Everyone who works for me is black.
2. My realtor, GC, Financial Planner, Account, and Doctor are all black (I have a hispanic dentist but tried to get a black one first)
3. I buy from black stores.
 
JAG89 said:
We are drastically losing the little land we do own in this country. We makeup 12% of the country's population, but we own less than 1% of all privately owned rural land in the United States.

Land ownership is a vital asset to all communities. Within the last century, African-American land ownership has rapidly declined. Comparing the U.S. Agriculture Census data on African-American farmland ownership for 1910 and 1997, it shows a drastic decline from its peak of 15 million acres in 1910 to 2.4 million acres in 1997. A recent study estimated that in the early 20th century, rural landownership among African-American farmers and non-farmers was between 16 and 19 million acres (Gilbert, J., 2002). The 1999 Agricultural Economics and Land Ownership Survey (AELOS), which assessed private rural landownership across race and use (i.e. farming, forestry, etc.), found that there are currently 68,000 African-American rural landowners and they own a total of approximately 7.7 million acres of land, less than 1% of all privately owned rural land in the United States. (AELOS, 1999). Sixty percent (60%) of which is owned by non-farmers. (AELOS, 1999). However, this acreage is valued at $14 billion. (AELOS, 1999). With rural landownership clearly being a significant economic resource base in the African-American community controls, why do African-Americans continue to lose their land?

http://www.federationsoutherncoop.com/aalandown04.htm
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This should be it's own thread. Land is wealth.
 
Owning a business is just a small piece of the economic equation, but owning and controlling the resources are the larger pieces of any economic equation. Like Da Sleep said, we might own the hair salons, but the products (hair grease, hair dryers, hair clippers, hair weaves, hair coloring, shampoo, perms, etc.) we use are owned by others. Somehow we need to learn the concept of growing our businesses vertically, which means, once we start a business, find out what it takes to own and control those items that supplies your business.
 
You are right, no business owns 100% of its supply chain and resources, but I bet many businesses supply chains and resources are ALL White owned from top to bottom. Name one business that rely upon an ALL Black supply chain???
 
JAG89 said:
You are right, no business owns 100% of its supply chain and resources, but I bet many businesses supply chains and resources are ALL White owned from top to bottom. Name one business that rely upon an ALL Black supply chain???
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In the modern economy, the supply chain isn't as important. Uber doesn't own a single car, Airbnb doesn't own a single property
 
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