Howard U. Debunking Myths About Black People


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The claim that a dollar circulates in the black community for only six hours cannot be substantiated.

The federal government does not produce data that would allow such a comparison.

In addition, economists contacted by TruthBeTold.news said some of the data cited, such as information about dollars circulating in the Jewish community, is questionable because the federal government does not collect information by religion. And researchers would be unable to get the information accurately from a survey of consumers.

The earliest source of the statistic appears to be a book that is nearly 20 years old. The book also never mentions the name of the study nor provides any information about the author.

Economic experts agree that blacks may spend little of their estimated $1.1 trillion in buying power with black business. And they agree that efforts like Anderson’s to patronize those businesses are laudable goals. But they add that proponents should stop using the six-hour figure because, while it is shocking, it cannot be verified.

http://www.niemanlab.org/2016/01/a-...il&utm_term=0_8a261fca99-8753439530-395891533
 



There are statistical data out there that the government compile by race, ethnicity, gender, and age based on economic status, such as household income, unemployment percentage, poverty percentage, land ownership, etc. I'm sure if one thoroughly examine that data, it's not a pretty picture. And just from extrapolations, one can determine which groups own or control the necessary resources to grow wealth versus those groups that lack the necessary resources that is needed to grow wealth. Also, without even reading the article, I'm pretty sure the study done by Howard University didn't include information produced by the United States Census Bureau.
 
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The information below tells me that this study was done by a bunch of talking heads without making any logical attempt to justify their debunking theory with facts and FIGURES, which basically leaves us with their words versus the words of others.

TruthBeTold.news, an initiative out of Howard University’s Department of Media, Journalism and Film in the School of Communications, aims to help students fact-check — and, often, dispel — such claims about the African-American community.
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The Queen of Babbling Talking Heads:
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Palin returned to the University of Idaho in January 1986 and received her bachelor's degree in communication with an emphasis in journalism May 1987.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
 
Although the United States government does not collect information based on religion, there are other organizations that do so. Howard University School of Communications should know that the United States government is not the only entity that collects data on specifics groups. Basically, the article on debunking the myths of Black people was just a half ass attempt by Howard University School of Communications to disprove something.

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Da Sleeper said:
Because they can't substantiate something doesn't mean it's not real. People of color have always been used to attack and discredit something that may enlighten other people of color.
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Rated R Superstar said:
Huh?

We too easily believe negative stats about us.
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What part of my comment was confusing for you? Here I will try to clarify.

Because Howard or any other group says they can not substantiate something does not meat that which they researched is not true. Usually in science if you want to prove a theory false you disprove the theory. Howard would need to prove the life span of the dollar is longer in the black community. For their theory to be anything more than an opinion.

This is basic history: When society wants to debunk or discredit anything that may help or enlighten people of color. They use people of color to do it. As people of color if Mississippi St. Or Alabama published this info we would see straight through it. But coming from Howard some will buy into it.
 
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Da Sleeper said:
What part of my comment was confusing for you? Herr I will try to clarify.

Because Howard or any other group says they can not substantiate something does not meat that which they researched is not true. Usually in science if you want to prove a theory false you disprove the theory. Howard would need to prove the life span of the dollar is longer in the black community. For their theory to be anything more than an opinion.

This is basic history: When society wants to debunk or discredit anything that may help or enlighten people of color. They use people of color to do it. As people of color if Mississippi St. Or Alabama published this info we would see straight through it. But coming from Howard some will buy into it.
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Basically, as I stated previously, Howard University did a half ass attempt in debunking something that they deem is a myth. And if they really wanted to debunk the life cycle of the dollar in the Black community, they should have done the research themselves. I'm sure a so-called elite university such as Howard University has enough brain power to determine such economic comparison. The article makes Howard University appear to be on the level of a high school when it comes to in-depth research.
 
Da Sleeper said:
What part of my comment was confusing for you? Here I will try to clarify.

Because Howard or any other group says they can not substantiate something does not meat that which they researched is not true. Usually in science if you want to prove a theory false you disprove the theory. Howard would need to prove the life span of the dollar is longer in the black community. For their theory to be anything more than an opinion.

This is basic history: When society wants to debunk or discredit anything that may help or enlighten people of color. They use people of color to do it. As people of color if Mississippi St. Or Alabama published this info we would see straight through it. But coming from Howard some will buy into it.
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Usually in science theories have supporting evidence. The point is that there is no supporting evidence on the claims they spoke about in the article.
 
The problem with Howard University, they haven't made any attempt to derive a methodology to determine a more ACCURATE duration of how long a dollar circulates in the Black community. It seems like they are only interested in telling others that they can't find proof of what has been previously published. When one truly debunk something, most of the time they debunk it with in-depth research by collecting the necessary data to develop some methodology to show the ACCURACY or INACCURACY of what being debunk. To say some number doesn't exist because they are unable to find where it was derived from is just a lazy attempt by Howard University to say it doesn't exist.

It's not like others haven't done a similar research on a broader scale:

The number of times a dollar circulates within an economy is known as the “multiplier effect.” Conceptually it is quite simple and is often used as a justification for localization: spend your dollars locally and those recipients will have a bit more money that they, too, can spend locally, leading to a single dollar having a greater impact than if it were spent just once. However, the “input-output” models used by economists to calculate the multiplier effect are meant for macro-economies, wherein businesses are aggregated into industries, or “sectors.” This does not provide us with a means to “map” the economy, and individual contributions to the economy are diluted beyond identification.

http://www.localfutures.org/mapping-local-economy/
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Da Sleeper said:
Why Howard? Why not a big PWC? Wouldn't the name of a pwc carry more weight?
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They are just interested in leaving Black folks in the dark while calling themselves the Mecca of HBCUs, basically maintaining the title as the HNIC. Howard University have yet to do any major in-depth research that would help others understand their economic situation.
 
JAG89 said:
The problem with Howard University, they haven't made any attempt to derive a methodology to determine a more ACCURATE duration of how long a dollar circulates in the Black community. It seems like they are only interested in telling others that they can't find proof of what has been previously published. When one truly debunk something, most of the time they debunk it with in-depth research by collecting the necessary data to develop some methodology to show the ACCURACY or INACCURACY of what being debunk. To say some number doesn't exist because they are unable to find where it was derived from is just a lazy attempt by Howard University to say it doesn't exist.

It's not like others haven't done a similar research on a broader scale:
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OK that is similar research (although for a geographic area and not an ethnic group). Where's the actual research on the "Black Community"?
 



jag4life said:
OK that is similar research (although for a geographic area and not an ethnic group). Where's the actual research on the "Black Community"?
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Who knows??? But neither Howard University nor I have the right to debunk something without presenting our own data and research (facts and figures) of what is ACCURATE. As I previously stated, this is just a half ass attempt by Howard University to disprove something. It would have seemed logical that once they couldn't find any proof, the next step would have been to develop some methodology to determine the life cycle of the dollar in the Black Community, but as usually, they leave us guessing again.
 
JAG89 said:
Who knows??? But neither Howard University nor I have the right to debunk something without presenting our own data and research of what is ACCURATE. As I previously stated, this is just a half ass attempt by Howard University to disprove something. It would have seemed logical that once they couldn't find any proof, the next step would have been to develop some methodology to determine the life cycle of the dollar in the Black Community, but as usually, they leave us guessing again.
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But how are you defending a statement that provides no supporting data/proof? Howard is saying there is no way to track it. If it is not trackable, there is no way to get proof or disproof.
 
Also, who to say the data didn't exist. Like a lot things in history, it could have either gotten destroyed or misplaced. Howard University needs to do a much better job on their debunking theory.
 
JAG89 said:
Also, who to say the data didn't exist. Like a lot things in history, it could have either gotten destroyed or misplaced. Howard University needs to do a much better job on their debunking theory.
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The data has never been collected by the federal government.
 
jag4life said:
But how are you defending a statement that provides no supporting data/proof? Howard is saying there is no way to track it. If it is not trackable, there is no way to get proof or disproof.
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Once they realized they couldn't find proof, it would have seemed like they would have taken the next appropriate step by determining the accuracy or inaccuracy of the dollar's life cycle in the Black community.
 
jag4life said:
The data has never been collected by the federal government.
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Do they ALWAYS have to use federal data??? I do believe I've already posted the information below. Somewhere I see so-called educated Black folks finding every excuse not to do something that they claim to be experts in.

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jag4life said:
I'm willing to bet the authors got that data from the feds.
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But the article stated that the federal government does not collect information by religion. Now someone is lying here. LOL!!!

In addition, economists contacted by TruthBeTold.news said some of the data cited, such as information about dollars circulating in the Jewish community, is questionable because the federal government does not collect information by religion. And researchers would be unable to get the information accurately from a survey of consumers.
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jag4life said:
Ok cool. I read it later in the abstract of the book. LOL
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So I guess we caught Howard University School of Communications making false claims in the article. I bet they have several graduates lining up to be a Fox News reporter. Should we say we just debunk the debunkers or maybe they are just too lazy to find out the truth on their own. LOL!!!!

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