I think most SWAC schools' standards are about the same now.
Southern University layoffs and program cuts coming
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I think most SWAC schools' standards are about the same now.
jsupop33
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Let's be honest. Some kids simply need to go to Community College first. Letting kids in with a 12 on the ACT and 2.1 High School GPA, knowing that it is highly likely that they will drop out, doesn't do anyone a favor.
Actually pretty much every SWAC school requires an 18 ACT (17 for athletes)...
Odds are against that student, but do you exclude that kid with the 2.1 at your own financial risk? Most of us know someone who entered college with a low GPA only to actually succeed. They can go to a community college first and get on their feet, but why can't they come to a 4-year school and attempt to do the same? Freshman English Comp/College Algebra/History 101 don't change depending on the college.
jsupop33
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J4L,
I would like to see numbers for those kids. A 2.1 with a 18 ACT is a lot different than a 2.1 with a 12-14 ACT also (which is what you start getting with open enrollment).
True, we all know someone who did but if only 12% of those kids coming in with a 2.1 are actually finishing within 6 years. Who does it benefit? I think you are doing them a disservice to a degree. No better than these for-profit schools.
I would like to see numbers for those kids. A 2.1 with a 18 ACT is a lot different than a 2.1 with a 12-14 ACT also (which is what you start getting with open enrollment).
True, we all know someone who did but if only 12% of those kids coming in with a 2.1 are actually finishing within 6 years. Who does it benefit? I think you are doing them a disservice to a degree. No better than these for-profit schools.
How so? We are providing them with an opportunity. If they don't or can't take advantage, then it is on them to recognize and make a change. They could just as easily go to trade school and not take advantage of the opportunity and lose money.
There is only so much you can do to protect someone from making their own bad decisions.
jsupop33
Loyalty & Respect
Yes, but it will affect the reputation of the school to a point. The University of the District of Columbia has around a 2% on-time graduation rate and it was killing the rep of the school. (Folks call it the University of Dumb Children). The new President closed enrollment and split the school in half. They now have a Community College and the University. It was the best thing that he could have done.
I understand that you can only protect people so much but weren't we put here to help our communities. Sometimes, I feel that includes tough love.
I understand that you can only protect people so much but weren't we put here to help our communities. Sometimes, I feel that includes tough love.
That's the issue. The graduation rate and the reputation. If we get a bunch of succcessful community college transfers who come in and graduate on time, they are not counted in the graduation rate calculation because they did not come to the school as first time freshmen. SUNO graduated 442 students in May and only 14 counted towards their graduation rate calculation.
225
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Exactly!
theSWACdecider
Active Member
Can't blame Jindal on everything, we've just flat out had poor leadership and in many areas.
SUjagTILLiDIE
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Dont know if they changed it but dont you need a 21 to get into SU.
jsupop33
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That is fugged up.
SUjagTILLiDIE
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Regents expands online services
JORDAN BLUM
Capitol news bureau
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Louisiana is expanding its efforts to ease the process for adults to return to college and for community college students to seamlessly transfer to universities.
The Board of Regents is growing its websites for the Center for Adult Learning, nicknamed CALL, and for the new Transfer Degree Guarantee program.
They can be viewed online at www.yourcallla.org and www.latransferdegree.org.
“We want to be the definitive source of information for higher education in Louisiana,†said Jim Purcell, the state’s new commissioner of higher education.
CALL started more than three years ago, but it is just beginning to expand more statewide after initially operating only as a pilot program within Northwestern State University in Natchitoches and Bossier Parish Community College.
Now CALL has expanded to Southeastern Louisiana University, McNeese State University and more with 20 online degree programs offered overall.
http://theadvocate.com/news/340058-65/regents-expands-online-services.html
JORDAN BLUM
Capitol news bureau
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Louisiana is expanding its efforts to ease the process for adults to return to college and for community college students to seamlessly transfer to universities.
The Board of Regents is growing its websites for the Center for Adult Learning, nicknamed CALL, and for the new Transfer Degree Guarantee program.
They can be viewed online at www.yourcallla.org and www.latransferdegree.org.
“We want to be the definitive source of information for higher education in Louisiana,†said Jim Purcell, the state’s new commissioner of higher education.
CALL started more than three years ago, but it is just beginning to expand more statewide after initially operating only as a pilot program within Northwestern State University in Natchitoches and Bossier Parish Community College.
Now CALL has expanded to Southeastern Louisiana University, McNeese State University and more with 20 online degree programs offered overall.
http://theadvocate.com/news/340058-65/regents-expands-online-services.html
SUjagTILLiDIE
Well-Known Member
Again, why isnt this offered at SU and Gram.
Jax
Chief Trolling offICEr
But the poor leadership is now amplified by the hatchet man himself, Piyush.
JagHammer
Senior Troll
20 based on the GPA I think.
usa today
Sgt Backfire
Same thing at GSU and most of the schools in the ULS. There are scenarios i'm sure because if SU only accepted people with 21's on the ACT across the board, you think enrollment has declined but you would see a big decline so i'm sure there are options and it varies from first time students, transfers and out of state. Most Universities will say 21 or 20 on ACT then put the Or/ meaning they could still get a certain gpa and still be admitted without a 21 or 20 on the ACT.
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ALPHA3
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A legislative resolution called for the Board of Regents to allocate at least 25 percent of their funding formula based on performance: which includes increased retention and graduation rates, programs that produce graduates in high-demand fields, and research investments that promote the state's economic development. Another resolution was also passed for greater consideration of actual program costs at community and technical colleges for training programs that prepare future workforce.
The current funding formula incentivizes enrollment growth only and simply funds institutions at an amount believed to be comparable to their peers. There is little, if any, incentive for institutions to target resources toward academic programs that produce graduates in critical workforce shortage areas, or incentives for institutions to focus attention on research that will render the state more competitive in the global economy.
The performance-based formula was designed to address needs in the current formula and better fit higher education institutions to the real business and industry needs in communities.
This new performance-based funding formula calls for the following:
Better account for actual academic program costs
Encourage institutions to increase retention and graduation rates
Provide incentives for university research conducted in high-priority economic development areas
Encourage institutions to produce graduates in high-demand fields in line with the state's occupational demand forecasts and
Hold colleges and universities more responsible for adequately maintaining campus facilities and infrastructure.
Through this new performance-based funding formula, higher education institutions are supposed to be rewarded for offering programs that meet real workforce demands.
ALPHA3
Active Member
He tried that a month ago and the Legislature shot that down. All that came out of that push was UNO moving into the UL system. He'll try again next year and hopefully the new legislature will shoot it down again.
JROCK
Preeminent
This is the major catalyst........The decree has NOT worked in S.U.'s favor (U.S. Justice dept vs the State of Louisiana Higher Education desegregation suit).........Southern is no more white than it was before the decree and LSU is not any more black.....However S.U. has loss many of its student to BRCC.......
Philly Jag
Active Member
Actually Southern's entrance standards aren't the highest – yet. The new admission requirement of 2.5 will not kick in until fall 2012. Southern is also waiving out-of state fees for students coming in with a 3.0. You can have that 10,000 number - I'm in favor of quality over quantity. There are schools with 10,000 enrollment and no where to be found on the U.S. News and World list of top HBCUs. Just saying.
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2011/03/southern_university_serves_lou.html
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2011/03/southern_university_serves_lou.html
theSWACdecider
Active Member
My co-workers niece was up this way last week and she tells me students are leaving, transferring from SU left and right. Sad that the previous administration has torn up my beloved university.