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Right! I wished that this forum was done 3-5 years ago before the economy went to hell.
JSU, be honest...
Without Alcorn, SU, and occasionally Grambling, where would your attendence be for a season?
What the SWAC needs is a Commissioner who is not going to "suck up" to certain schools within the conference. It's 2011 and some traditions have got
to go in order for us to prosper in competition with other conferences.
I'm done...
If you look at TSNU and consider we had a higher attendance average over everyone in the SWAC except JSU. It looks like JSU will do just fine in attendance with out being in the SWAC.
JSU, be honest...
Without Alcorn, SU, and occasionally Grambling, where would your attendence be for a season?
What the SWAC needs is a President who is nothing going to "suck up" to certain schools within the conference. I'm done...
random thoughts on the topic:
FIRST - We can FORGET moving to 1-A in football with the level of financial support seen at our HBCUs. That's for starters. The school budgets are already strapped and alumni support is non-existent outside of buying a ticket to the game.
...and NT, my opinion is that that line of thinking is the problem. We said the same thing 20 years ago. We can't worry about right now when we should be worried about 20 years from now.
JSU please stop telling yourself lies. Your attendance took a big hit under James Bell because you were losing. Moving up you would never finish above .500. Your record would be 5-6 at best. We all know our people our band wagon folks. No excitement and a losing record and your attendance would drop with in 2 years. Ask Troy St, they aren't nothing now they are FBS.
JSU please stop telling yourself lies. Your attendance took a big hit under James Bell because you were losing. Moving up you would never finish above .500. Your record would be 5-6 at best. We all know our people our band wagon folks. No excitement and a losing record and your attendance would drop with in 2 years. Ask Troy St, they aren't nothing now they are FBS.
JSU please stop telling yourself lies. Your attendance took a big hit under James Bell because you were losing. Moving up you would never finish above .500. Your record would be 5-6 at best. We all know our people our band wagon folks. No excitement and a losing record and your attendance would drop with in 2 years. Ask Troy St, they aren't nothing now they are FBS.
JSU lost 18 playoff games. If anything JSU lost its potential 20 years ago. :tup:
How many did ya'll even try to win?
ZERO...........OK. :lol:
It continues to amuse me that wack azz schools that never went because they were never good enough to go want to talk shat about JSU's record all the time. :lol:
JSU please stop telling yourself lies. Your attendance took a big hit under James Bell because you were losing. Moving up you would never finish above .500. Your record would be 5-6 at best. We all know our people our band wagon folks. No excitement and a losing record and your attendance would drop with in 2 years. Ask Troy St, they aren't nothing now they are FBS.
U have to remember when discussing something like this with AAMU.... they moved UP to come to the SWAC. We are working from two completely different schools of thought/ levels of expectation/ standards...
How can you not worry about right now if alums are not SUPPORTING the university... where is the money going to come from? Help me... I think you are twisting my comments slightly... Read carefully. I AGREE we need to do something. I just don't want us to make the mistake of thinking a move will solve our problems.... A struggling 1-AA school moving up with NO EXTRA support will be an OUT OF BUSINESS 1-A school in no time....
Is this not common sense...
I agree.To me the question is how much money do we need and how much more money could we make if we were 1-A. In the end it may balance out. Or in the end, we may lose or we may gain. I don't know but I think we need to find out. I don't think JSU can do this alone but right now, our budget is 6.5 million dollars. If we can make even an extra million from 1-A games and earmarked that money, you could start to build an infrastructure. We all know that money begets money. We could immediately spend 80K on two more strength coaches. We could spend another 80K on some two more people to help in the AD office. We could spend another 80K to hire two more people for the alumni office or get Ann outta the ticket office. These are just examples, and we have only spent $240K. You always say that one of the main things is that we are understaffed. Let's find ways to get out of that. Staying in 1-AA certainly won't help it. It never has.
do you think Troy would also "beat the slop out of Jsu now?This is just pure hate. :lol:
BTW:
Since 2002, Troy has been to 4 bowl games. When they was FCS, they would beat the slop out of A@M and they would beat the slop out of ya'll now. Yet here you are talking about how "nothing" they are. :lol:
This is just pure hate. :lol:
BTW:
Since 2002, Troy has been to 4 bowl games. When they was FCS, they would beat the slop out of A@M and they would beat the slop out of ya'll now. Yet here you are talking about how "nothing" they are. :lol:
Quit hating CEE... Troy is doing pretty well! The last 5 years they have won 8-9 games and at least a share of the Sun Belt Conference Championship. JSU has a larger fan base than Troy in a larger metro area and larger stadium. I have not doubt that JSU could move up to the Sun Belt and do well. A home and home with Southern Miss and a game or two against a former SWAC foe would be enough to meet their attendance minimums right there. Now conference games against Ark. State, ULM, ULL and Troy won't sell out, but they would bring at least as many fans as come to their games against TSU, PVAM, UAPB. Plus Jackson could schedule schools like UAB and Memphis and would someday get an SEC team to come there (probably South Carolina), trust me they'd be able to cover themselves.
The big question is whether they would get an invite from the Sun Belt Conference. Geographically speaking it would be intriguing, because Mississippi is currently the only deep-south state in which the conference does not currently have a footprint.
do you think Troy would also "beat the slop out of Jsu now?
:tup::tup:One thing this post shows is that you all don't understand the difference from hate and reality. You can't comprehend in your small mind that your endowment first of all in no where near Marshall or Troy. Not one of your alumni is willing to invest money into your program as a big time booster. That none of our presidents have the foresight to care about big time sports. That our fans like entertainment and come to things they can relate to in this world. The truth hurts.
To me the question is how much money do we need and how much more money could we make if we were 1-A. In the end it may balance out. Or in the end, we may lose or we may gain. I don't know but I think we need to find out. I don't think JSU can do this alone but right now, our budget is 6.5 million dollars. If we can make even an extra million from 1-A games and earmarked that money, you could start to build an infrastructure. We all know that money begets money. We could immediately spend 80K on two more strength coaches. We could spend another 80K on some two more people to help in the AD office. We could spend another 80K to hire two more people for the alumni office or get Ann outta the ticket office. These are just examples, and we have only spent $240K. You always say that one of the main things is that we are understaffed. Let's find ways to get out of that. Staying in 1-AA certainly won't help it. It never has.