Drug Industry Payback For White House Surrender: $150 Million In TV Advertising


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"Leader of Kings"
WASHINGTON -- The drug industry has authorized its lobbyists to spend as much as $150 million on television commercials supporting President Obama's health care overhaul, beginning over the August Congressional recess, people briefed on the plans said Saturday.

The unusually large scale of the industry's commitment to the cause helps explain some of a contentious back-and-forth playing out in recent days between the odd-couple allies over a deal that the White House struck with the industry in June to secure its support. The terms of the deal were not fully disclosed. Both sides had announced that the drug industry would contribute $80 billion over 10 years to the cost of the health care overhaul without spelling out the details.

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And I bet you don't find it odd the government is spending OUR money to hipmatize the american public with commercials rather than spending very little of our money to give us the pure facts of the bill so that it can gain the public's support?

And that clip say "Overhaul" vs. what was once being called "Reform"....

I hope you know there is a difference...

How can you keep what you had when there is an "overhaul"...

Sorry to tell you brah.. As we all know politicians LIE!!! Even though Obama is "black"... He is telling some LIES to pass this bill yo...

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Bruh seriously you really need to stop with the even though he is black thing. You're really making yourself sound like an azz. (As impossible as that might be)

What do you think some white person is going to come and give you a tip for it?
 
Bruh seriously you really need to stop with the even though he is black thing. You're really making yourself sound like an azz. (As impossible as that might be)

What do you think some white person is going to come and give you a tip for it?

Man cut the bull isht! Seriously, What in the HELL do you know about this health care reform other than Obama says we need it?

You know nothing of substance.. you have no clue how this shyt will even benefit YOU!!!...

From the way you are posting, you either don't have a health care plan or you have no clue how the isht works.

I posted shyt that should upset ANY tax paying citizen that wants their freedom brah....


You are the type of folk us people that enjoy freedom need to be worried about, because you allow others to think for you... What ever Obama say you fall right in LINE!!! That ain't cool son....

You know what.... go find you some more amusing clips and post them or some isht... I can't believe I am going back and forth with you.. It’s obvious you ain't doing no reading on this shyt or nothing else you post clips about..

All you do is follow the left wing NUTTS and find something funny they said about the opposition. That is far from educating yourself dude.

Peace
 
You're right I don't know anything and you're all wise and powerful I kneel and bow to you oh mighty Zohan.

You have wisdom beyond your years, and may nothing but wine scent rose pedals be at your feet to walk on.

BTW who's going to win the NBA Finals this year oh mighty Zohan?
 
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LoL.

But still blue, I think SUtrp96 is on to something. The <b>fact</b>ual details aren't being made public just yet and the fact that Obama has the support of these overly-zealous drug manufacturing corps scares me shitless. They're not in it just to "appear" anything. They're in it to make a LOT of profit! :read:
 
~P~ the bottom line is we don't know what it's going to be because there isn't a finish product yet to present to the President and any accusation about what he's going to do is nothing short of birther mentality.

Besides he hasn't been right or on to something (maybe on something) since he brought his butt on here ranting and raving about how much he knew about basketball and who was going to win the NBA playoffs and final and why.
 
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You're I don't know anything and you're all wise and powerful I kneel and bow to you oh mighty Zohan.

You have wisdom beyond your years, and may nothing but wine scent rose pedals be at your feet to walk on.

BTW who's going to win the NBA Finals this year oh mighty Zohan?

Sholl not the Lakers

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~P~ the bottom line is we don't know what it's going to be because there isn't a finish product yet to present to the President and any accusation about what he's going to do is nothing short of birther mentality.

Besides he hasn't been right or on to something (maybe on something) since he brought his butt on here ranting and raving about how much he knew about basketball and who was going to win the NBA playoffs and final and why.


Congress do have a bill out... Obama says different from what is in that bill... IF this is the case why are the LEFT WING nutts out selling an Unfinished product?!?! :retard:

The people need to stop letting these people we elect give us any ol thing.. these people are NOT royalty.. but they act like it.. what ever this health care bill is congress should be required to have it as well...
 
Man you are so enlightening, what would TSPN have done if not for you to tell us about politcs and use your years of wisdom?

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Man you are so enlightening, what would TSPN have done if not for you to tell us about politcs and use your years of wisdom?

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I hope you get at least something out of this, you ain't know what a private option was for crying out loud...smh... probably still ain't clear about it....:shame:
 
Dang dude you really need some attention don't you? First you were stalking JayRob now you're stalking me with all your delusion of God knows what..

BTW have you figure out how to goggle to get the contact info to the white house yet?
 
Dang dude you really need some attention don't you? First you were stalking JayRob now you're stalking me with all your delusion of God knows what..

BTW have you figure out how to goggle to get the contact info to the white house yet?

Dude you are way to lame for this post...

Do you even have any GOOD information to offer about health care?

I know you don't, I just asked to make a point.. You post articles about isht you have NO clue about. You know NOTHING about the direction of this bill. All "YOU" do know how to do is GOOGLE videos.

Is this what you did at SU?!?!!?:retard: Googled your homework?!?! Well back then they ain't have google, so you must have paid someone to do it for you..

You do absolutely ZERO reading! You find headlines and post them as your topic headers and you follow up with a ONE-SIDED video!

At least the people in the video know why they feel the way they feel, but you my brotha' have not a CLUE!

Stalkn' you?!!?! You are sounding like a broad about right now with that lame foolishness!

You are posting cheap NO thought articles you don't even know the premise of and you think someone who is following this BILL won't reply to it?!?!


At least get informed before you start posting isht you can't defend, it makes you look rather stupid and dumb!

READ and get informed yo'..

Dayum!
 
You reaaally need to take your medication because you're starting to sound more and more like a raving lunatic....seriously
 



I feel what Jared is saying. My whole thing is that I'm not taking Obama's word, I'm not taking the Democrats or Republicans word. I'm trying to research and find out what's what. This is my future on the line so I won't risk just taking somebody at their word. I do think that Obama should slow it down because IMO we don't need an immediate fix on health care at this second. This is something that has to be carefully planned and researched. On the flip side lets wait and see until the plan is finalized before we start to criticize.
 
I feel what Jared is saying. My whole thing is that I'm not taking Obama's word, I'm not taking the Democrats or Republicans word. I'm trying to research and find out what's what. This is my future on the line so I won't risk just taking somebody at their word. I do think that Obama should slow it down because IMO we don't need an immediate fix on health care at this second. This is something that has to be carefully planned and researched. On the flip side lets wait and see until the plan is finalized before we start to criticize.

It's easy to think that way PJ when you have coverage but for the millions of elderly people that have to decide between paying their utilities and buying medication that will keep them alive a little longer it isn't.

There are also millions of kids and pregnant women that don't have the type of coverage that you and your family may have and suffer because of insufficient prenatal care and improper immunization.

For to many folks forget this and only think of their own selfish needs and fail to realize that because that it cost you probably more than all these things that are being made up.

The other thing is that people who really do their RESEARCH can tell you, that if nothing isn't done real soon that plan that you are so happy with now you will be paying nearly 50% of your pay check to get coverage in the very near future.

I understood what Jared was saying to and that's why i see it as being total nonsense. If any one listen to him you can't trust the Dems and you can't trust the Repubs, so if that's the case what damn difference does it make what you research?

If you can't trust any of them then the rational thing to end up doing is nothing, just what the Repub. want and in the end after the brick has fell on your head you'll realize you weren't as smart as you thought you were.

Common sense would tell you that something isn't right even if you didn't research it because of how hard and the Repub are pushing against it with all the lies about death camps and them supporting all the racism and hate mongering, but not actually COMING UP WITH ONE themselves.

The last time they push this hard for something it cost the country Billions of dollars and thousands of lives while they sat back and laughed at the dumbazzes that followed them while lining their pockets.

We can sit here and talk until we're blue in the face about no politician can be trusted but what's the news flash there? NOTHING

So stating the obvious doesn't mean you did any research it just mean you really don't have a clear argument to make.

Now all things being even I don't need a brick to hit me in the head and remind me that just seven short months ago I was biting by a dog so I need to watch that dog more than I need to watch the other dog.

So while some people like to go back and forth to give the impression of intelligence, there's alot of time while they're using all that effort to finally come to the conclusion that it has a branch and a trunk so therefore it really is a tree, the apples have already been stolen.

You know just as well as I all these old ignorant bastards that are at these town hall meeting shouting people down are probably the ones that are going to need it the most.
 
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It's easy to think that way PJ when you have coverage but for the millions of elderly people that have to decide between paying their utilities and buying medication that will keep them alive a little longer it isn't.

There are also millions of kids and pregnant women that don't have the type of coverage that you and your family may have and suffer because of insufficient prenatal care and improper immunization.

For to many folks forget this and only think of their own selfish needs and fail to realize that because that it cost you probably more than all these things that are being made up.

The other thing is that people who really do their RESEARCH can tell you, that if nothing isn't done real soon that plan that you are so happy with now you will be paying nearly 50% of your pay check to get coverage in the very near future.

I understood what Jared was saying to and that's why i see it as being total nonsense. If any one listen to him you can't trust the Dems and you can't trust the Repubs, so if that's the case what damn difference does it make what you research?

If you can't trust any of them then the rational thing to end up doing is nothing, just what the Repub. want and in the end after the brick has fell on your head you'll realize you weren't as smart as you thought you were.

Common sense would tell you that something isn't right even if you didn't research it because of how hard and the Repub are pushing against it with all the lies about death camps and them supporting all the racism and hate mongering, but not actually COMING UP WITH ONE themselves.

The last time they push this hard for something it cost the country Billions of dollars and thousands of lives while they sat back and laughed at the dumbazzes that followed them while lining their pockets.

We can sit here and talk until we're blue in the face about no politician can be trusted but what's the news flash there? NOTHING

So stating the obvious doesn't mean you did any research it just mean you really don't have a clear argument to make.

Now all things being even I don't need a brick to hit me in the head and remind me that just seven short months ago I was biting by a dog so I need to watch that dog more than I need to watch the other dog.

So while some people like to go back and forth to give the impression of intelligence, there's alot of time while they're using all that effort to finally come to the conclusion that it has a branch and a trunk so therefore it really is a tree, the apples have already been stolen.

You know just as well as I all these old ignorant bastards that are at these town hall meeting shouting people down are probably the ones that are going to need it the most.


First off brah, the Republican Party ain't really trying to fight this bill... Right now they are trying to make sure they show their faces to get re-elected.

This Republican Party is following the lead of the "PEOPLE"..... Just the same as the Democratic Party follows the lead of the "PEOPLE" when it comes to wars......

We are always the ones to MAKE noise because the people we elect says anything.. you don't find nothing wrong or odd ballish about that?

PJ is 100% correct! We don't need to rush health care like we have no tomorrow..

Are you hearing and seeing something I am not seeing? Most of my family is poor. They are getting medical care when they need it! It's costing us tax payers our hard earned money, but this been going on for years...

I know first hand these poor folk been pushing out babies they can barely afford, but I ain't hearing no stories of some 3rd world country type shyt going on.. EVERY now and then you may hear of a story where a poor family rental house burned down because they couldn't afford lights and had to use candles...

At some point you have to look at "some" of this stuff with a suspicious eye. We only know of what the present situation MAY be because of what the media told us.

It's been a house bill out for a few weeks now.. So this is why people are showing to these townhall meetings with the bills and page numbers in hand asking questions, real questions.... All the democrats are doing is calling them lies and rumors....:retard: The shyt is written in the HOUSE BILL..... If the people are reading it wrong.. EXPLAIN that..... If it's something in the bill that will be taken out, SAY THAT... don't sit there and call it a rumor when it's in the house bill.....
These people aren't stupid and these Politicians are showing up to these town halls like their constituents are just that.... we have to realize most of these folk think that way...They already had money from jump, graduated from IVY league schools (majority of them) so most of them have an elite attitude and KNOW shyt we don't ...

BUT...it's our fault.. we all have the notion one can't lead our districts, states, country unless you have an IVY league education.

We hear about CHANGE.. but Washington has the same blue print on both sides of the aisle..

Back to the topic:

Obama has made statements in the past and is now making claims he never said it..... At least give the people a lil more credit than that and say you have changed your stance...

How can I trust him on this bill when there is clear audio and video of him lying about his stance... And then admitting he don't know the full details of the house bill and when anyone brings up what's in the house bill, he says we don't know what we are talking about.

I don't care who you are, you ain't going to play me for stupid.
 
Man I'vee already conceded that you are the Great Zohan and you still find something to whine about.

I think you'll probably go down as one of the greatest black minds in your generations.

You'll be right up there with these guys

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Oh yeah and they were fighting to keep the free market open in it's original form too.
 
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Man I'vee already conceded that you are the Great Zohan and you still find something to whine about.

I think you'll probably go down as one of the greatest black minds in your generations.

You'll be right up there with these guys

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Oh yeah and they were fighting to keep the free market open in it's original form too.


You one lost fella. You have to have more sense than this.. just gotta'.. You can't be this stupid yo, even you..
You had resort to "jokes" (that ain't even funny) instead of talking abuot health care...

All you know is... The Repubs did this so why are we worried about the Dems doing that...

Just stupid son!
 
All mighty Zohan why are you angry? You are the Alpha and the Omega so why worry about the small pa-tay-da?
 
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First off brah, the Republican Party ain't really trying to fight this bill... Right now they are trying to make sure they show their faces to get re-elected.

Not true, they have operatives out trying to kill this bill, by getting the public upset. What do you think Sarah Palin's role is for example? They have even said that this would be Obama’s waterloo. So we know they want to kill/fight this bill

This Republican Party is following the lead of the "PEOPLE"..... Just the same as the Democratic Party follows the lead of the "PEOPLE" when it comes to wars......

Again not true, if you notice they really have the old crowd hype up with lies about affecting Medicare, which is gov. run by the way.
We are always the ones to MAKE noise because the people we elect says anything.. you don't find nothing wrong or odd ballish about that?

PJ is 100% correct! We don't need to rush health care like we have no tomorrow..

Are you hearing and seeing something I am not seeing? Most of my family is poor. They are getting medical care when they need it! It's costing us tax payers our hard earned money, but this been going on for years...

Again not true, if you count emergency room care as getting health care then you are off base, the best form of care if preventative care. Able body adults do not qualify for gov/Medicare. So if your employer does not offer it (ie burger king/mcd/other small mom and pops. You don’t have it. We are paying more for health care because of emergency room help vs. preventative care.

I know first hand these poor folk been pushing out babies they can barely afford, but I ain't hearing no stories of some 3rd world country type shyt going on.. EVERY now and then you may hear of a story where a poor family rental house burned down because they couldn't afford lights and had to use candles...

The gov is providing medical for preg. Women because again it is cheaper to provide upfront care than wait until she has the baby and have complications. Then it would be really expensive to help take care of the baby and mother. Once the mother has the baby, she is no longer eligible for medical unless she is receiving TANF. How is it that Canada who has a single payer system, have lower birth mortality rate than the US, longer life span than the US. Everyone is covered, yes they pay taxes, but what do you call your insurance bill from your employer? I know the avg family at my job pays about $250 month to have medical coverage; some of my friends that work other jobs pay more. What is the difference in paying that vs paying taxes which probably will not be as high as your current medical coverage.

At some point you have to look at "some" of this stuff with a suspicious eye. We only know of what the present situation MAY be because of what the media told us.

That goes both ways, if medcial industry is willing to pay what 100 billion (over 10 years) upfront to get the gov to back off, how much are they really making off the American people. One health industry ceo was pay like 1 billion in bonus money. That tells me that we have to pay for that bonus.


It's been a house bill out for a few weeks now.. So this is why people are showing to these townhall meetings with the bills and page numbers in hand asking questions, real questions.... All the democrats are doing is calling them lies and rumors.... The shyt is written in the HOUSE BILL..... If the people are reading it wrong.. EXPLAIN that..... If it's something in the bill that will be taken out, SAY THAT... don't sit there and call it a rumor when it's in the house bill.....
These people aren't stupid and these Politicians are showing up to these town halls like their constituents are just that.... we have to realize most of these folk think that way...They already had money from jump, graduated from IVY league schools (majority of them) so most of them have an elite attitude and KNOW shyt we don't ...

They are showing up because operatives are putting out lies, like the death panel (lie), like the gov. is going to take away Medicare(lie), the end of care payment(lie)

BUT...it's our fault.. we all have the notion one can't lead our districts, states, country unless you have an IVY league education.

We hear about CHANGE.. but Washington has the same blue print on both sides of the aisle..

True but I’m not seeing any balance from you on this issue, you sound like the republicans to me. Almost all of your talking points have been the same that I heard listening to Fox radio and watching the news.
Back to the topic:


Obama has made statements in the past and is now making claims he never said it..... At least give the people a lil more credit than that and say you have changed your stance...

How can I trust him on this bill when there is clear audio and video of him lying about his stance... And then admitting he don't know the full details of the house bill and when anyone brings up what's in the house bill, he says we don't know what we are talking about.

I don't care who you are, you ain't going to play me for stupid.
 
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