Obama or Racist.....seriously?


Suge

Suge

The Phat Mack
I am sort of disturbed by the overwhleming trend that seems to be developing in regards to our new President. It seems that if a person does not support Obama in all things, the next label is that they are a racist, or some type of self hating African American. My question is why are these the only two choices?

Obama is the president, and like all before him, he will be loved by some and hated by others. He will be criticized, no matter what he does, yet in our current climate, it seems that if you disagree with him in any manner, you are instantly judged by the masses as being against him due to race. Isn't taking that mentality in direct opposition to the idea of being judged by our character? Can't you support someone, but not support everything they do?

I am no fool, I know there are those that are in disagreement with President Obama because of his racial background, but I am also smart enough to know that not everyone can be placed in one box. I also understand that time will judge his 8 years in office like it has all past presidents, but during this time, is it unpatriotic to criticize the president? That mentality is akin to the logic the GOP tried to spin when folks criticized Bush.......which I felt was silly then too.

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Suge said:
I am sort of disturbed by the overwhleming trend that seems to be developing in regards to our new President. It seems that if a person does not support Obama in all things, the next label is that they are a racist, or some type of self hating African American. My question is why are these the only two choices?
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Suge, where are you seeing this? At work? Home? TSPN? Personally I don't see it.
 
Styles said:
Suge, where are you seeing this? At work? Home? TSPN? Personally I don't see it.
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Neither do I. There are plenty of people in his own party that's having disagreements with him. I haven't seen them portrayed as racist.
 
Suge said:
I am sort of disturbed by the overwhleming trend that seems to be developing in regards to our new President. It seems that if a person does not support Obama in all things, the next label is that they are a racist, or some type of self hating African American. My question is why are these the only two choices?

Obama is the president, and like all before him, he will be loved by some and hated by others. He will be criticized, no matter what he does, yet in our current climate, it seems that if you disagree with him in any manner, you are instantly judged by the masses as being against him due to race. Isn't taking that mentality in direct opposition to the idea of being judged by our character? Can't you support someone, but not support everything they do?

I am no fool, I know there are those that are in disagreement with President Obama because of his racial background, but I am also smart enough to know that not everyone can be placed in one box. I also understand that time will judge his 8 years in office like it has all past presidents, but during this time, is it unpatriotic to criticize the president? That mentality is akin to the logic the GOP tried to spin when folks criticized Bush.......which I felt was silly then too.

Just curious........
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Man Please...No one got that kind of treatment but your beloved W. If you said anything against him you was anti american. That ish got him re-elected and you ammmmericans help run this country into the ground.

Don't agree with Oboma, lick all the white repub arse you can. He will be okay.
 
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man please...no one got that kind of treatment but your beloved w. If you said anything against him you was anti american. That ish got him re-elected and you ammmmericans help run this country into the ground.

Don't agree with oboma, lick all the white repub arse you can. He will be okay.
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lol!!!!!!!!!!
 
Where do you see it at? I know this isn't in reference to the Rush Limbaugh thing. Because no one generalized anything in that thread. All the references of being racist were made to Rush Limbaugh in particular and not to everyone that criticises the president.

The current president deserves and will get as much scrutiny as the last one and I don't think that everybody who criticises him is doing it out of some kind of racial hatred, but they may just be doing because they disagree with him. That wasn't the case with Rush. From previous comments we know his commentary is racially motivated.

Peace and Practice
 
Suge said:
I am sort of disturbed by the overwhleming trend that seems to be developing in regards to our new President. It seems that if a person does not support Obama in all things, the next label is that they are a racist, or some type of self hating African American. My question is why are these the only two choices?

Obama is the president, and like all before him, he will be loved by some and hated by others. He will be criticized, no matter what he does, yet in our current climate, it seems that if you disagree with him in any manner, you are instantly judged by the masses as being against him due to race. Isn't taking that mentality in direct opposition to the idea of being judged by our character? Can't you support someone, but not support everything they do?

I am no fool, I know there are those that are in disagreement with President Obama because of his racial background, but I am also smart enough to know that not everyone can be placed in one box. I also understand that time will judge his 8 years in office like it has all past presidents, but during this time, is it unpatriotic to criticize the president? That mentality is akin to the logic the GOP tried to spin when folks criticized Bush.......which I felt was silly then too.

Just curious........
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Suge,

These folks can play dumb if they want to, but there is some thing to what you are saying.

The difference from one person to another is the amount of political knowledge he or she has. A person who takes the time to follow the political landscape on a daily basis will (hopefully) have the common sense to know that its not all about race. However, the individual who hardly follows politics but gets his/her dose of political news from sources that do not necessarily provide a lot of political details will have a much different view point.

It is all about how much a person knows about the political process.
 
Suge said:
I am sort of disturbed by the overwhleming trend that seems to be developing in regards to our new President. It seems that if a person does not support Obama in all things, the next label is that they are a racist, or some type of self hating African American. My question is why are these the only two choices?

Obama is the president, and like all before him, he will be loved by some and hated by others. He will be criticized, no matter what he does, yet in our current climate, it seems that if you disagree with him in any manner, you are instantly judged by the masses as being against him due to race. Isn't taking that mentality in direct opposition to the idea of being judged by our character? Can't you support someone, but not support everything they do?

I am no fool, I know there are those that are in disagreement with President Obama because of his racial background, but I am also smart enough to know that not everyone can be placed in one box. I also understand that time will judge his 8 years in office like it has all past presidents, but during this time, is it unpatriotic to criticize the president? That mentality is akin to the logic the GOP tried to spin when folks criticized Bush.......which I felt was silly then too.

Just curious........
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And I still say 'looking at the political choices in '08, the only reasons to vote or Mccain were:
1. Racism
2. Party loyalty

Is there another reason. The choice was too clear. The majority of America confirms what I say.
Now, each person who criticises Obama is not a racist (most are). I oppose his abortion stance. Eventually his own party will have issues with him. Blacks will have issue with him.
But you secretly or openly have issue with his race (racism), then you will find complaints.
sssssshhhh, but I agree with you, Suge. How will we ever know if it is racism or an objective, thoughtful complaint.

Kenn Rashad said:
Suge,

These folks can play dumb if they want to, but there is some thing to what you are saying.

The difference from one person to another is the amount of political knowledge he or she has. A person who takes the time to follow the political landscape on a daily basis will (hopefully) have the common sense to know that its not all about race. However, the individual who hardly follows politics but gets his/her dose of political news from sources that do not necessarily provide a lot of political details will have a much different view point.

It is all about how much a person knows about the political process.
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I think about Gorge Busch, it is hard to find anything good in a person you are not fun of.
 
For those that ask, I see it on this board, and I see it on a couple of other sites. Some of it does come from the Rush Limbaugh post, but some of it comes from the comments like Shawigga's above. And I was also speaking in terms beyond the board. It just appears that many have taken the stance that if you are in opposition to Obama policy, you are somehow betraying the "dream."

But maybe it's just me after all......it usually is.
 
Kenn Rashad said:
Suge,

These folks can play dumb if they want to, but there is some thing to what you are saying.

The difference from one person to another is the amount of political knowledge he or she has. A person who takes the time to follow the political landscape on a daily basis will (hopefully) have the common sense to know that its not all about race. However, the individual who hardly follows politics but gets his/her dose of political news from sources that do not necessarily provide a lot of political details will have a much different view point.

It is all about how much a person knows about the political process.
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I can't speak for nobody else, but I try my best to stay on top of this political stuff. But so far I really don't see where race is being use against Obama. It wouldn't matter if Obama was whiter than snow, the Republicans are going to go after him. That's part of their job being the opposite party. Bill Clinton clash with people within his party all the time when he was president. But why don't you and Suge be a little more specific and give some examples. Help all of us folks that are playing dumb out.
 
C.O.G. said:
And I still say 'looking at the political choices in '08, the only reasons to vote or Mccain were:
1. Racism
2. Party loyalty

Is there another reason. The choice was too clear. The majority of America confirms what I say.
Now, each person who criticises Obama is not a racist (most are). I oppose his abortion stance. Eventually his own party will have issues with him. Blacks will have issue with him.
But you secretly or openly have issue with his race (racism), then you will find complaints.
sssssshhhh, but I agree with you, Suge. How will we ever know if it is racism or an objective, thoughtful complaint.
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Well every African American that has a job is faced with that dilemma. That's nothing new. I thought you guys were talking about something specific.
 
Suge said:
For those that ask, I see it on this board, and I see it on a couple of other sites. Some of it does come from the Rush Limbaugh post, but some of it comes from the comments like Shawigga's above. And I was also speaking in terms beyond the board. It just appears that many have taken the stance that if you are in opposition to Obama policy, you are somehow betraying the "dream."

But maybe it's just me after all......it usually is.
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I hope we never stoop to that. I hope that try to be objective. Moreso, I hope we do not over-compensate...become unfair because we are trying too hard not to seem partial.
 
Styles said:
Well every African American that has a job is faced with that dilemma. That's nothing new. I thought you guys were talking about something specific.
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Well, I guess the premise on the table is that may persons shout racism any time Obamais criticised. I did not detect any specifics.
 



During the campaign folks criticized blacks that were not blindly supporting Obama. When Hilary supporters spoke out against him they were labeled as racist or anti-black, uncle tom, etc. Some of that has continued into his term.
 
cat daddy said:
During the campaign folks criticized blacks that were not blindly supporting Obama. When Hilary supporters spoke out against him they were labeled as racist or anti-black, uncle tom, etc. Some of that has continued into his term.
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Guys he's only been in office a week. Sheesh

You will see some carry over from the campaign but it will die down and attacks on his policies will lead the discussions.

Shawiggi gave ole bush the benefit of the doubt. But he continued to lead us astray. Yet the good ole Republican party pushed fear and anti patriotism on us. If you were not for bush you were not for America. Where were you guys then?
 
I've seen it and heard this as well. I voted for Obama and think he would make a good president, but I'm going to take the wait and see approach. But it seems like everywhere I go or people you interact with if you someone says something along the lines of "Obama has not really done anything yet." I have seen folks get a talkin' to.
 
Suge said:
For those that ask, I see it on this board, and I see it on a couple of other sites. Some of it does come from the Rush Limbaugh post, but some of it comes from the comments like Shawigga's above. And I was also speaking in terms beyond the board. It just appears that many have taken the stance that if you are in opposition to Obama policy, you are somehow betraying the "dream."

But maybe it's just me after all......it usually is.
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Suge, click on the link and tell me what you think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeB6FJX3X-s&feature=related
 
Suge said:
For those that ask, I see it on this board, and I see it on a couple of other sites. Some of it does come from the Rush Limbaugh post, but some of it comes from the comments like Shawigga's above. And I was also speaking in terms beyond the board. It just appears that many have taken the stance that if you are in opposition to Obama policy, you are somehow betraying the "dream."

But maybe it's just me after all......it usually is.
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Ok, when you made the statement initially, I thought u were talking about members of the press, politicians, etc. But since you're talking about people on here and other message boards, i can see your point. You catch nutsos all across the spectrum on these private boards. But that's just a fringe few. The masses are more reasonable about these things than you make them out to be.
 
Losers always find a way to divert attention from the real issues. Nobody is saying President Obama is perfect, but IMHO he has done more his first 8 days then what this country has had the past 8 years. I have yet to see anyone start a thread that seriously questions his economy stimulus package, which has been on the internet for awhile now.

OBAMA'S PLAN

Maybe this is why Obama had to tell the GOP, "I won".
 
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Well 90% of the white folks I come in contact with are republicans. Not all of them are racist, but if you guys really believe when white folks say "Socialism" they are talking about being like these foriegn countries you got self hate problems. That is basically a southern bible belt white christian way of saying "He is going to help minorites and the poor". If you guys would stop sugar coating it for what it is and honestly ask these white folks how they feel you will get your answer. I have to ride around several bases with these folks. Ranging from One stars, Full birds to specialist and I ask them to tell me the truth on how they feel. They think he is going to give minorites and the poor money. These guys aren't use to having anyone other than white males in the sand box and it is killing them. Their favorite line is "The folks who voted for him are looking for hand outs". Guess who those folks are? minorites and the poor. White males may be cool with you, but most of them are not use to having to let you control the sand box and determine their families life and future. Keep it real with yourself and stop trying to always call someones education level out, because when you do that it shows your lack of education. Everyday I ride around or sit in the field listening to Rush, Sean hannity and all the radio talk. By the way they really don't like Sean hannity, but they love Rush. Unlike most folks it doesn't bother me how they feel, because actually these guys have a right to their views like I do. I love the looks on their faces when I explain to them how social programs only hurt them and their love ones on the tail end of the picture. Most of these guys have never been exposed to nothing but folks who think like them. I love it when they go home and think about what I say and come back and say man I never thought about it like that. :emlaugh:
 
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CEE DOG said:
Well 90% of the white folks I come in contact with are republicans. Not all of them are racist, but if you guys really believe when white folks say "Socialism" they are talking about being like these foriegn countries you got self hate problems. That is basically a southern bible belt white christian way of saying "He is going to help minorites and the poor". If you guys would stop sugar coating it for what it is and honestly ask these white folks how they feel you will get your answer. I have to ride around several bases with these folks. Ranging from One stars, Full birds to specialist and I ask them to tell me the truth on how they feel. They think he is going to give minorites and the poor money. These guys aren't use to having anyone other than white males in the sand box and it is killing them. Their favorite line is "The folks who voted for him are looking for hand outs". Guess who those folks are? minorites and the poor. White males may be cool with you, but most of them are not use to having to let you control the sand box and determine their families life and future. Keep it real with yourself and stop trying to always call someones education level out, because when you do that it shows your lack of education. Everyday I ride around or sit in the field listening to Rush, Sean hannity and all the radio talk. By the way they really don't like Sean hannity, but they love Rush. Unlike most folks it doesn't bother me how they feel, because actually these guys have a right to their views like I do. I love the looks on their faces when I explain to them how social programs only hurt them and their love ones on the tail end of the picture. Most of these guys have never been exposed to nothing but folks who think like them. I love it when they go home and think about what I say and come back and say man I never thought about it like that. :emlaugh:
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hmmm, interesting post.
 
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