Dr. Sweet NUPE
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This was not an issue when McGuire was knocking **** out of the ****ing ball park.
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Dr. Sweet NUPE said:This was not an issue when McGuire was knocking **** out of the ****ing ball park.
JR said:On the real, I can't be mad at Philly fan even though I like Bonds......they were pretty creative with that one. LOL. Since it was Philly fan..if McGuire or Palmeiro would have been there that night instead of Bonds they would have had something for them too. They are equal opportunity bashers. They hate everything and everybody non Philly. Remember they booed Santa Claus. LOL.
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:This was not an issue when McGuire was knocking **** out of the ****ing ball park.
JR said:On the real, I can't be mad at Philly fan even though I like Bonds......they were pretty creative with that one. LOL. Since it was Philly fan..if McGuire or Palmeiro would have been there that night instead of Bonds they would have had something for them too. They are equal opportunity bashers. They hate everything and everybody non Philly. Remember they booed Santa Claus. LOL.
JR said:On the real, I can't be mad at Philly fan even though I like Bonds......they were pretty creative with that one. LOL. Since it was Philly fan..if McGuire or Palmeiro would have been there that night instead of Bonds they would have had something for them too. They are equal opportunity bashers. They hate everything and everybody non Philly. Remember they booed Santa Claus. LOL.
bluedog said:Around the horn: Starting rotation
01/05/2006 1:22 PM ET
By Ken Mandel / MLB.com
Following is the first in a series of weekly stories on MLB.com examining each Major League club, position by position. Each Wednesday until Spring Training camps open, we'll preview a different position. Today: Starting rotation.
PHILADELPHIA -- Jon Lieber, Brett Myers and Cory Lidle should start the opening three games of the 2006 regular season against the Cardinals, followed by Ryan Franklin's National League debut.
After that, it's anybody's guess.
Still, needing to fill one slot isn't the worst position to be in heading into Spring Training, providing nothing happens to the first four.
Much depends on Lieber's ability to again anchor the staff after an inaugural 17-win campaign with the Phillies. The veteran proved that his Tommy John surgery is well in the past, and logged his first 200-plus-inning season since 2001, when he posted 20 wins.
The right-hander started brilliantly in an Opening Day win over the Nationals, and galloped to a 5-1 start with a 2.57 ERA. His worst stretch followed from May 12-June 30, when he went 3-7 with a 7.48 ERA. Lieber recovered for the stretch run, going 5-1 with a 2.06 ERA in his final seven outings, keeping the Phillies in the thick of the National League Wild Card race.
"He kept us in a lot of games [in September], and that was big for us," said manager Charlie Manuel. "He's a hard worker, and it showed."
Lieber is also one of the game's quickest workers, and he succeeds by keeping hitters alert by staying around the plate. Lieber ranked fifth in the NL in fewest walks per nine innings, issuing just 1.69.
Myers provides a hard-throwing complement to Lieber, and he established himself as a stud in his third full Major League season. Despite winning 25 games in his previous two seasons, the 25-year-old faced whispers about his makeup and conditioning habits, and louder discussions about his strained relationship with former pitching coach Joe Kerrigan.
But the righty thrived under new pitching coach Rich Dubee's laid-back style and benefited from another year of experience. Part of it can be attributed to a refined delivery, which he described as similar to the one he used in the Minor Leagues. Another contributor was a split-finger fastball he introduced to right-handers.
Mostly, Myers blossomed through the natural maturation process. It was easy to forget that Myers was so young during the previous seasons, since everyone expected instant brilliance, and poor results weren't acceptable. Myers said during the season that negative media comments fueled his motivation. He set career bests in starts (34), innings (215 1/3), strikeouts (208) and ERA (3.72). Myers began the season on fire, posting a 1.69 ERA over his first 10 starts. Overall, the Phillies went 21-13 in his starts.
Myers' polar opposite is Lidle, a reliable arm who has earned his reputation as an innings eater. The veteran logged 184 2/3 innings in 2005, posting a 4.53 ERA while starting at least 30 games for the fourth straight season. He was slowed by a strained left oblique muscle, but pitched well in September.
The Phillies and Lidle would like to see less of the Jekyll and Hyde characteristic of last season. The righty posted a 3.38 ERA in his 13 wins and a 7.17 ERA in his 11 losses. The Phillies would like to see more consistency.
In Franklin, who agreed to a one-year, $2.6 million deal on Thursday, the Phillies hope to have another durable veteran, and they hope the righty can rebound from an 8-15 season with a 5.10 ERA. It also included a 10-day suspension for violating baseball's steriods policy, though Franklin said he had "no idea" how he tested positive.
If anybody notice during the Phillies/Giants game the Phillies fans had a huge banner saying Babe Ruth did it on beer and hotdogs. Tell me this witch hunt isn't a joke.
bluedog said:Well I guess they're equal opportunity hypocrites too
JR said:On the real, I can't be mad at Philly fan even though I like Bonds......they were pretty creative with that one. LOL. Since it was Philly fan..if McGuire or Palmeiro would have been there that night instead of Bonds they would have had something for them too. They are equal opportunity bashers. They hate everything and everybody non Philly. Remember they booed Santa Claus. LOL.
Forget speed.........................Everyone is acting like ROID's JUST became a problem in the '90's.jag4life said:What about the players in the 70's and 80's who took speed before every game?
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:This was not an issue when McGuire was knocking **** out of the ****ing ball park.
DonTiger said:Ya' know what man,
I feel ya' because anyone not blind could see that McGuire was juiced up.
HOWEVER !!!!
I just can't excuse Barry because he's black. Dude was on juice so guess what. . . .
HE GET'S WHAT HE DESERVS
Originally posted by bluedog:
San Francisco Giants slugger Barry Bonds, New York Yankees stars Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield and three other major league baseball players received steroids from a Burlingame nutritional supplement lab, federal investigators were told.
The information about Bonds provided to The Chronicle was corroborated by a source familiar with Anderson. The source told The Chronicle that the weight trainer had obtained steroids and human growth hormone for Bonds dating back to the 2001 season. That was the year the Giants outfielder broke baseball's storied single-season record for home runs -- hitting 73.
Year Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1986 PIT 113 413 72 92 26 3 16 48 65 102 36 7 .223 .330 .416 .746
1987 PIT 150 551 99 144 34 9 25 59 54 88 32 10 .261 .329 .492 .821
1988 PIT 144 538 97 152 30 5 24 58 72 82 17 11 .283 .368 .491 .859
1989 PIT 159 580 96 144 34 6 19 58 93 93 32 10 .248 .351 .426 .777
1990 PIT 151 519 104 156 32 3 33 114 93 83 52 13 .301 .406 .565 .970
1991 PIT 153 510 95 149 28 5 25 116 107 73 43 13 .292 .410 .514 .924
1992 PIT 140 473 109 147 36 5 34 103 127 69 39 8 .311 .456 .624 1.080
1993 SF 159 539 129 181 38 4 46 123 126 79 29 12 .336 .458 .677 1.136
1994 SF 112 391 89 122 18 1 37 81 74 43 29 9 .312 .426 .647 1.073
1995 SF 144 506 109 149 30 7 33 104 120 83 31 10 .294 .432 .577 1.009
1996 SF 158 517 122 159 27 3 42 129 151 76 40 7 .308 .461 .615 1.076
1997 SF 159 532 123 155 26 5 40 101 145 87 37 8 .291 .446 .585 1.031
1998 SF 156 552 120 167 44 7 37 122 130 92 28 12 .303 .438 .609 1.047
1999 SF 102 355 91 93 20 2 34 83 73 62 15 2 .262 .389 .617 1.006
2000 SF 143 480 129 147 28 4 49 106 117 77 11 3 .306 .440 .688 1.127
2001 SF 153 476 129 156 32 2 73 137 177 93 13 3 .328 .515 .863 1.379
2002 SF 143 403 117 149 31 2 46 110 198 47 9 2 .370 .582 .799 1.381
2003 SF 130 390 111 133 22 1 45 90 148 58 7 0 .341 .529 .749 1.278
2004 SF 147 373 129 135 27 3 45 101 232 41 6 1 .362 .609 .812 1.422
2005 SF 14 42 8 12 1 0 5 10 9 6 0 0 .286 .404 .667 1.071
Wow!!! Those steriods sure helped change Barry's yearly Hr avg. allot.