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Dr. Sweet NUPE

Dr. Sweet NUPE

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This was not an issue when McGuire was knocking **** out of the ****ing ball park.

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Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
This was not an issue when McGuire was knocking **** out of the ****ing ball park.

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On the real, I can't be mad at Philly fan even though I like Bonds......they were pretty creative with that one. LOL. Since it was Philly fan..if McGuire or Palmeiro would have been there that night instead of Bonds they would have had something for them too. They are equal opportunity bashers. They hate everything and everybody non Philly. Remember they booed Santa Claus. LOL.
 
JR said:
On the real, I can't be mad at Philly fan even though I like Bonds......they were pretty creative with that one. LOL. Since it was Philly fan..if McGuire or Palmeiro would have been there that night instead of Bonds they would have had something for them too. They are equal opportunity bashers. They hate everything and everybody non Philly. Remember they booed Santa Claus. LOL.
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Exactly!
 
1 comment................:goof:

Upon hitting #714 and #715, Bonds should get the ball's back and sell them on e-bay himself................SOME RICH COLLECTOR WILL BUY THEM.

Pocket some change Barry...........:nod: :lol:
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
This was not an issue when McGuire was knocking **** out of the ****ing ball park.

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No it was not an issue because McGwire was not knocking on The Babe's door.

I agree with JR, it does not matter who it is in Philly. They bash everybody.

:lol:
 
JR said:
On the real, I can't be mad at Philly fan even though I like Bonds......they were pretty creative with that one. LOL. Since it was Philly fan..if McGuire or Palmeiro would have been there that night instead of Bonds they would have had something for them too. They are equal opportunity bashers. They hate everything and everybody non Philly. Remember they booed Santa Claus. LOL.
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I wholeheartedly agree. :lol:

:topic:

You better be careful at an Eagles-Skins game. They don't play at all. :uhoh:
 
JR said:
On the real, I can't be mad at Philly fan even though I like Bonds......they were pretty creative with that one. LOL. Since it was Philly fan..if McGuire or Palmeiro would have been there that night instead of Bonds they would have had something for them too. They are equal opportunity bashers. They hate everything and everybody non Philly. Remember they booed Santa Claus. LOL.
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Well I guess they're equal opportunity hypocrites too


bluedog said:
Around the horn: Starting rotation
01/05/2006 1:22 PM ET
By Ken Mandel / MLB.com

Following is the first in a series of weekly stories on MLB.com examining each Major League club, position by position. Each Wednesday until Spring Training camps open, we'll preview a different position. Today: Starting rotation.
PHILADELPHIA -- Jon Lieber, Brett Myers and Cory Lidle should start the opening three games of the 2006 regular season against the Cardinals, followed by Ryan Franklin's National League debut.

After that, it's anybody's guess.

Still, needing to fill one slot isn't the worst position to be in heading into Spring Training, providing nothing happens to the first four.

Much depends on Lieber's ability to again anchor the staff after an inaugural 17-win campaign with the Phillies. The veteran proved that his Tommy John surgery is well in the past, and logged his first 200-plus-inning season since 2001, when he posted 20 wins.

The right-hander started brilliantly in an Opening Day win over the Nationals, and galloped to a 5-1 start with a 2.57 ERA. His worst stretch followed from May 12-June 30, when he went 3-7 with a 7.48 ERA. Lieber recovered for the stretch run, going 5-1 with a 2.06 ERA in his final seven outings, keeping the Phillies in the thick of the National League Wild Card race.

"He kept us in a lot of games [in September], and that was big for us," said manager Charlie Manuel. "He's a hard worker, and it showed."

Lieber is also one of the game's quickest workers, and he succeeds by keeping hitters alert by staying around the plate. Lieber ranked fifth in the NL in fewest walks per nine innings, issuing just 1.69.

Myers provides a hard-throwing complement to Lieber, and he established himself as a stud in his third full Major League season. Despite winning 25 games in his previous two seasons, the 25-year-old faced whispers about his makeup and conditioning habits, and louder discussions about his strained relationship with former pitching coach Joe Kerrigan.

But the righty thrived under new pitching coach Rich Dubee's laid-back style and benefited from another year of experience. Part of it can be attributed to a refined delivery, which he described as similar to the one he used in the Minor Leagues. Another contributor was a split-finger fastball he introduced to right-handers.

Mostly, Myers blossomed through the natural maturation process. It was easy to forget that Myers was so young during the previous seasons, since everyone expected instant brilliance, and poor results weren't acceptable. Myers said during the season that negative media comments fueled his motivation. He set career bests in starts (34), innings (215 1/3), strikeouts (208) and ERA (3.72). Myers began the season on fire, posting a 1.69 ERA over his first 10 starts. Overall, the Phillies went 21-13 in his starts.

Myers' polar opposite is Lidle, a reliable arm who has earned his reputation as an innings eater. The veteran logged 184 2/3 innings in 2005, posting a 4.53 ERA while starting at least 30 games for the fourth straight season. He was slowed by a strained left oblique muscle, but pitched well in September.

The Phillies and Lidle would like to see less of the Jekyll and Hyde characteristic of last season. The righty posted a 3.38 ERA in his 13 wins and a 7.17 ERA in his 11 losses. The Phillies would like to see more consistency.

In Franklin, who agreed to a one-year, $2.6 million deal on Thursday, the Phillies hope to have another durable veteran, and they hope the righty can rebound from an 8-15 season with a 5.10 ERA. It also included a 10-day suspension for violating baseball's steriods policy, though Franklin said he had "no idea" how he tested positive.

If anybody notice during the Phillies/Giants game the Phillies fans had a huge banner saying Babe Ruth did it on beer and hotdogs. Tell me this witch hunt isn't a joke.
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There she blowwwwwwssssss!!!!

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bluedog said:
Well I guess they're equal opportunity hypocrites too
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Come on BD, I like Bonds and all. But comparing a low budget marginal player who took steroids to Bonds who is about to become the second greatest HR hitter of all time is not apples to apples. I am sure Philly fan or any fan would care less if Bonds was some scrub on the Giants who they speculated taking steroids. One thing about Philly fan they will boo anybody, so I wouldn't be shocked if they booed that player if they know about it. Especially if he gets suspended while playing in Philly. McGuire would have gotten the same treatment in Philly if he was about to pass Ruth as well now that we know he took steroids. I am not a Bonds basher and have rooted for him since his Pirate days except when they played the Braves. But we all know that Bonds has never endeared himself to the media or fans so any speculation about him cheating is going to be like this especially now that he is about to pass Ruth. Even Bonds knows that. I am sure he laughed at the sign on his way to the outfield. Sometimes it pays to have a demeanor and repoire with the media and fans like Magic, Michael Jordan and others and even then folks will turn on you if they get a chance. This is nothing new. Ask Kobe.
 
Did Bonds hit 713 while on steroids? When he hit the moon shot for #713 everybody was standing according to the announcer. Anyone who has played baseball know that steroids will not help you see that ball. Up at the plate it is you and the pitcher. In baseball you are seen individually because nobody but you have to catch the ball, hit and run the bases. When you strike out all the eyes are on you. Why would anyone admit to using anything in this day and time?
 
JR I understand what you're saying but cheating is cheating. (and I don't think you're a Bonds basher) If you're going to claim you're such a purest to the game (Bonds bashers) your distain should be equal all around and don't forget they didn't give McQuire this kind of Grief nor any other of their golden boys that were either caught cheating or whom admitted to taking performance enhancing drugs but weren't classified as illegal then. :rolleyes:
 
philly fans can be rough but I thought they were on point with that one.

signed,
michael irvin




on the real.....I don't wanna wish injury on anyone, so lets just say he needs to retire. he's a cheater and I don't like to see cheaters have any great measure of sucess. don't wanna here about steroid test he didn't fail, that it wasn't against the rules or any of that nonsense. it would be ashame to see an icon like hank aaron behind this clown on the home run list. ruth mark, I don't care about...after all, it's not even a record.
 

What has the world come to when some who have been caught cheating or admitted that they have aren't punish for it but others who haven't been proven to be cheaters but are attack with such venom simply because somebody wrote a book claiming that they did.

What's so really screwed up about the whole situation is......

1) Anybody that has an ounce of knowledge about baseball knows that there isn't a drug of this earth that can make you hit a ninety MPH fastball.

2) The time frame that Bonds is accused of using steroids (1999-2000) he had already been an establish power hitter long before that.

.....it's truly truly sad what our society has let the media do not only to their freedom of independent thought but also the their six amendment rights.

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JR said:
On the real, I can't be mad at Philly fan even though I like Bonds......they were pretty creative with that one. LOL. Since it was Philly fan..if McGuire or Palmeiro would have been there that night instead of Bonds they would have had something for them too. They are equal opportunity bashers. They hate everything and everybody non Philly. Remember they booed Santa Claus. LOL.
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Hell they cheered when Michael Irvin had that severe injury at the Vet.
 
jag4life said:
What about the players in the 70's and 80's who took speed before every game?
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Forget speed.........................Everyone is acting like ROID's JUST became a problem in the '90's.

The terminator and millions of others were taking them back in the early '70's.

Nobody is going to convince me that BASEBALL was so clean that people were not taking them then.....................BEFORE ANY TEST WAS EVEN THOUGHT OF.

So let's get off the '90's juiced up thing.
Roid's were not discovered in the '90's, just better versions were put together.

BTW: Philly fans have alway's been "Creative Idiot's".:nod:
Nobody can heckle a person like them.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
This was not an issue when McGuire was knocking **** out of the ****ing ball park.

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Ya' know what man,
I feel ya' because anyone not blind could see that McGuire was juiced up.

HOWEVER !!!!

I just can't excuse Barry because he's black. Dude was on juice so guess what. . . .

HE GET'S WHAT HE DESERVS
 
DonTiger said:
Ya' know what man,
I feel ya' because anyone not blind could see that McGuire was juiced up.

HOWEVER !!!!

I just can't excuse Barry because he's black. Dude was on juice so guess what. . . .

HE GET'S WHAT HE DESERVS
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You don't have to be able to see it he admitted it. If McGuire had tested like Barry did hundreds of times and came up negative I'd be defending his six amendment rights too.

The issue is Barry has never been tested positive for any type of substance abuse and it has been reported that he has been tested more then usual among all players that were tested. Those are the facts.

The sad thing about it is people are looking at this witch hunt as proof that he has been cheating all these years when in fact it's about him allegedly committing perjury when he admitted using a creme substance "ONE TIME" not knowing that it was an enhancement.



Originally posted by bluedog:
San Francisco Giants slugger Barry Bonds, New York Yankees stars Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield and three other major league baseball players received steroids from a Burlingame nutritional supplement lab, federal investigators were told.


The information about Bonds provided to The Chronicle was corroborated by a source familiar with Anderson. The source told The Chronicle that the weight trainer had obtained steroids and human growth hormone for Bonds dating back to the 2001 season. That was the year the Giants outfielder broke baseball's storied single-season record for home runs -- hitting 73.


Year Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1986 PIT 113 413 72 92 26 3 16 48 65 102 36 7 .223 .330 .416 .746
1987 PIT 150 551 99 144 34 9 25 59 54 88 32 10 .261 .329 .492 .821
1988 PIT 144 538 97 152 30 5 24 58 72 82 17 11 .283 .368 .491 .859
1989 PIT 159 580 96 144 34 6 19 58 93 93 32 10 .248 .351 .426 .777
1990 PIT 151 519 104 156 32 3 33 114 93 83 52 13 .301 .406 .565 .970
1991 PIT 153 510 95 149 28 5 25 116 107 73 43 13 .292 .410 .514 .924
1992 PIT 140 473 109 147 36 5 34 103 127 69 39 8 .311 .456 .624 1.080
1993 SF 159 539 129 181 38 4 46 123 126 79 29 12 .336 .458 .677 1.136
1994 SF 112 391 89 122 18 1 37 81 74 43 29 9 .312 .426 .647 1.073
1995 SF 144 506 109 149 30 7 33 104 120 83 31 10 .294 .432 .577 1.009
1996 SF 158 517 122 159 27 3 42 129 151 76 40 7 .308 .461 .615 1.076
1997 SF 159 532 123 155 26 5 40 101 145 87 37 8 .291 .446 .585 1.031
1998 SF 156 552 120 167 44 7 37 122 130 92 28 12 .303 .438 .609 1.047
1999 SF 102 355 91 93 20 2 34 83 73 62 15 2 .262 .389 .617 1.006
2000 SF 143 480 129 147 28 4 49 106 117 77 11 3 .306 .440 .688 1.127
2001 SF 153 476 129 156 32 2 73 137 177 93 13 3 .328 .515 .863 1.379
2002 SF 143 403 117 149 31 2 46 110 198 47 9 2 .370 .582 .799 1.381
2003 SF 130 390 111 133 22 1 45 90 148 58 7 0 .341 .529 .749 1.278
2004 SF 147 373 129 135 27 3 45 101 232 41 6 1 .362 .609 .812 1.422
2005 SF 14 42 8 12 1 0 5 10 9 6 0 0 .286 .404 .667 1.071
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Wow!!! Those steriods sure helped change Barry's yearly Hr avg. allot.
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The Rant
Forget what the media say -- start appreciating Bonds
Posted: Thursday March 2, 2006 9:58AM; Updated: Friday March 3, 2006 1:13AM



What was the first thought that ran through your head when you saw the photos and/or video of Barry Bonds dressed as Paula Abdul earlier this week? It was probably, "What the hell is this?" or, "That's one ugly woman."

The first thing I thought was, "That's interesting, all his teammates are cracking up, but I thought they hated Barry's guts."

Then I remembered that it's the media that hates Bonds. Fans outside of San Francisco hate him, too, but that's because they've been brainwashed by the media, who long ago made Bonds Public Enemy No. 1 and never let anyone forget it.

Now, if your sole reason for hating Barry is the steroid mess, then that's your prerogative and you should stop reading this column right now. But you should open your eyes and realize that Bonds, Jason Giambi and Rafael Palmeiro were hardly the only players using steroids. You'd be a fool not to think the majority of players were using illegal substances. Remember, Matt Lawton was busted for steroids, and he hasn't put up Barry Bonds numbers. Also remember that Bonds was winning MVPs long before the steroid scandal rocked baseball.

But putting the steroid issue aside, what has been Bonds' biggest crime other than loathing the media?

He has been the game's best player for years. He's shown loyalty to the Giants, spending 13 seasons in San Francisco and never complaining about his contract. In 2003, he was the 10th highest-paid player. The season after that he was the fifth-highest . Most big leaguers in his spot would have thrown a fit about that.

There's no evidence of Barry being a bad teammate. The only player who's said anything against is Jeff "The Car Washer" Kent -- hardly the poster boy for beloved teammate. How many teams has Kent been on in his career?

I remember being shocked late in the 2001 season when Bonds was chasing the single-season home run record and his teammates would run out of the dugout to high-five him after a dinger. I had heard so much about Barry having three lockers and a barcalounger in the locker room. According to the media, that was supposed to be a hazardous thing for the Giants. That luxury chair was dividing the team. Could you believe the gall of the best player in the game getting some perks? Yet, when Barry set the record, he was mobbed at home plate and his teammates celebrated right along with him.

And now, at 41, with a knee that is shot, Bonds hasn't demanded a trade to an AL team, on which he could DH. And he's said he won't go to an AL team next season either. He wants to retire as a Giant. That loyalty should be commended in this day and age.

So for all those who aren't in the media but find yourselves hating Barry, open your eyes this season. Watch closely and ignore the media's agenda. Watch how his teammates treat him. Watch how he changes a game just by being in the lineup. Watch how he carries the Giants on his back. You just may gain a new appreciation for one of the top five players of all time. Keep hating him if you want, but you'll never see a player like Bonds again
 
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