Current Basketball SWAC Standings


MACHIAVELLI

MACHIAVELLI

Chairman/C.E.O.
Women
Alcorn State........ 13-3
Alabama State....... 10-5
Grambling State..... 9-6
Southern............ 9-7
Alabama A&M......... 8-7
Jackson State....... 8-7
MS Valley State..... 8-8
Texas Southern...... 5-10
Prairie View A&M.... 4-11
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 3-13

Men
Alabama A&M......... 11-4
Alabama State....... 10-5
Southern............ 10-6
Miss. Valley State.. 10-6
Grambling State..... 8-7
Jackson State....... 8-7
Texas Southern...... 6-9
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 5-11
Alcorn State........ 5-11
Prairie View A&M.... 4-11



source: swac.org
 
Alcorn boys is in 8th and Pine Bluff is in 9th. Alcorn holds the tie breaker over them.
 

if UAPB loses on Monday...basically it will open a whole new can of worms...that makes Alcorn vs PV on the 3rd the fight for 8th and UAPB will HAVE to beat Valley to qualify bearing Alcorn or PV doesn't win out...UAPB does not own the tiebreaker over PV also.

that loss to GSU tonight mean's UAPB's postseason starts Monday night..they need to win to have somewhat of a cushion but if they lose.....
 
Alcorn could just go on and forfeit the Texas games and save the university money.Playing only 15 minutes of basketball is not going to beat River Bottom Middle School. :sick:



CONGRATS TO THE LADY BRAVES........SWAC 2004-2005 regular season CHAMPS(Well at least a tie anyway),the tournament #1 seed.
 
The last place you want to be is the No.1 seed in the tourney.Ask our girls from last year smh
 
ah Jackson is #5 in the Men's ranking..

CURRENT TOP 8
1. Alabama A&M 11-4
2. Alabama State 10-5
3. Miss. Valley 10-6
4. Southern 10-6
5. Jackson State 8-7
6. Grambling 8-7
7. Texas Southern 6-9
8. Alcorn State 5-11
 
G Lion said:
What is the tie breaker for basketball???
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First tiebreaker between 2 schools is head to head. If Alcorn beat Pine Bluff twice, then Alcorn would go to the tourney if they finished tied.

Don't know about 3 way ties or more.
 
Robber said:
Is this how they tiebreak splits???
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unfortunately yes..... I always wonder why teams keep trying to hold the ball at the end of the game.... they better start shooting especially if they know they already lost the first game. You never know who you will be tied with at the end of the season.
 
Pine Bluff - the only way they are getting in the tournament is if they beat Valley, have Alcorn lose both of their games and Prairie View lose one of theirs.

Texas Southern - is already in the tournament. a win of one of these last two games will guarentee a automatic 7th place in the tournament. If they lose both of their games and Alcorn wins out, they will be the eight seed.

Prairie View - if they lose to Alcorn by 9 or more points, they are out of the picture. The only way they are going is if they beat Alcorn and Alcorn loses to Texas Southern.

Alcorn - a win over prairie view and a pine bluff lost to Valley will guarantee them a spot in the tournament.
 
simple as this.....PV wins on Thursday and can sit back and await their fate over the weekend...with the way TSU is playing, I don't see them losing to Alcorn and UAPB has to travel to Valley to win.....this is their biggest game ever as a SWAC member?..Are they up to the pressure?

PV can win Thursday and lose Saturday and back on in with a Alcorn loss and UAPB loss. simple as that

Those missed free throws by UAPB in the end of the PV game last month might come back to haunt them.
 
Women
1. Alcorn 13-3
2. Alabama St. 11-5
3. Grambling 10-6
4. Southern 9-7
5. Alabama A&M 9-7
6. Jackson St. 8-8
7. Mississippi Valley 8-9
8. Texas Southern 5-11
9. Prairie View 4-12
10. Arkansas-Pine Bluff 4-13

Men
1. Alabama A&M 13-3
2. Southern 10-6
3. Alabama St. 10-6
4. Mississippi Valley 10-7
5. Grambling 9-7
6. Jackson St. 9-7
7. Texas Southern 7-9
8. Alcorn 5-11
9. Arkansas-Pine Bluff 5-12
10. Prairie View 4-12

Thursday
UAPB OFF
MVSU OFF
Alcorn at Prairie View
Alabama St. at Jackson St.
Alabama A&M at Grambling
Southern at Texas Southern

Saturday's Games
Arkansas-Pine Bluff at Mississippi Valley
Alcorn at Texas Southern
Alabama St. at Grambling
Southern at Prairie View
Alabama A&M at Jackson St.
 

Robber,

Yes for two teams.

1)Head to Head
2)Point Differencial in the combined two meetings

So, Alabama A & M University has clinched at least a share of the regular season SWAC Championship and onewin in their last two games would give them the regular season SWAC Championship outright.
 
tierre said:
Women
1. Alcorn 13-3
2. Alabama St. 11-5
3. Grambling 10-6
4. Southern 9-7
5. Alabama A&M 9-7
6. Jackson St. 8-8
7. Mississippi Valley 8-9
8. Texas Southern 5-11
9. Prairie View 4-12
10. Arkansas-Pine Bluff 4-13

Men
1. Alabama A&M 13-3
2. Southern 10-6
3. Alabama St. 10-6
4. Mississippi Valley 10-7
<font color=red>5. Jackson St. 9-7
6. Grambling 9-7</font>
7. Texas Southern 7-9
8. Alcorn 5-11
9. Arkansas-Pine Bluff 5-12
10. Prairie View 4-12

Thursday
UAPB OFF
MVSU OFF
Alcorn at Prairie View
Alabama St. at Jackson St.
Alabama A&M at Grambling
Southern at Texas Southern

Saturday's Games
Arkansas-Pine Bluff at Mississippi Valley
Alcorn at Texas Southern
Alabama St. at Grambling
Southern at Prairie View
Alabama A&M at Jackson St.
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tierre,

You men's numbers are wrong. This is what SWAC.org is showing:

|------CONFERENCE-------| |--------OVERALL--------|
STANDINGS W-L Pct PF PA W-L Pct PF PA
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Alabama A&M......... 12-4 .750 72.4 66.4 15-11 .577 69.9 68.5
Southern............ 10-6 .625 64.1 61.0 13-12 .520 65.6 66.7
Alabama State....... 10-6 .625 61.0 58.8 12-13 .480 58.5 61.9
Miss. Valley State.. 10-7 .588 67.1 60.9 12-14 .462 66.7 65.8
Grambling State..... 9-7 .563 66.1 65.6 12-11 .522 66.4 70.4
Jackson State....... 9-7 .563 69.6 67.7 13-15 .464 65.1 69.5
Texas Southern...... 7-9 .438 65.4 67.8 9-15 .375 65.6 69.0
Alcorn State........ 5-11 .313 59.4 68.1 6-21 .222 57.9 70.3
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 5-12 .294 60.8 63.2 7-19 .269 58.7 67.2
Prairie View A&M.... 4-12 .250 60.8 67.6 4-21 .160 57.4 73.7

eerh.............Grambling & Jackson State..............I need you to "handle" your business. :lol:
 
Women
Alcorn State..........13-3
Alabama State.......11-5
Grambling State.....10-6
Alabama A&M.........9-7
Southern............ ..9-7
Jackson State....... 8-8
MS Valley State..... 8-9
Texas Southern......5-11
Prairie View A&M.....4-12
Ark.-Pine Bluff........4-13

Men
Alabama A&M...........12-4
Alabama State..........10-6
Southern..................10-6
Miss. Valley State......10-7
Grambling State.........9-7
Jackson State...........9-7
Texas Southern.........7-9
Alcorn State.............5-11
Ark.-Pine Bluff..........5-12
P. View....................4-12

source swac.org
 
JROCK said:
tierre,

You men's numbers are wrong. This is what SWAC.org is showing:

|------CONFERENCE-------| |--------OVERALL--------|
STANDINGS W-L Pct PF PA W-L Pct PF PA
--------- --- --- -- -- --- --- -- --
Alabama A&M......... 12-4 .750 72.4 66.4 15-11 .577 69.9 68.5
Southern............ 10-6 .625 64.1 61.0 13-12 .520 65.6 66.7
Alabama State....... 10-6 .625 61.0 58.8 12-13 .480 58.5 61.9
Miss. Valley State.. 10-7 .588 67.1 60.9 12-14 .462 66.7 65.8
Grambling State..... 9-7 .563 66.1 65.6 12-11 .522 66.4 70.4
Jackson State....... 9-7 .563 69.6 67.7 13-15 .464 65.1 69.5
Texas Southern...... 7-9 .438 65.4 67.8 9-15 .375 65.6 69.0
Alcorn State........ 5-11 .313 59.4 68.1 6-21 .222 57.9 70.3
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 5-12 .294 60.8 63.2 7-19 .269 58.7 67.2
Prairie View A&M.... 4-12 .250 60.8 67.6 4-21 .160 57.4 73.7

eerh.............Grambling & Jackson State..............I need you to "handle" your business. :lol:
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Show me how Grambling is ahead of Jackson St. and Jackson St. swept Grambling. They both have the same record. Jackson St. beat them

Jackson State (13-15,9-7)
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11/19/04 at Maryland........... 57-93 L 17950
11/21/04 at Arizona State...... 48-79 L 7091
11/23/04 at Texas-El Paso...... 57-83 L 8528
11/26/04 vs Delaware State..... 56-71 L 975
11/27/04 vs Cal State Northridg 63-86 L 850
12/01/04 PORTLAND STATE........ 62-63 L 850
12/04/04 JACKSONVILLE STATE.... 64-51 W 750
12/07/04 LOUISIANA TECH........ 61-75 L 980
12/11/04 at Stephen F. Austin.. 58-54 W 1331
12/18/04 TOUGALOO COLLEGE...... 65-52 W 862
12/20/04 at Cincinnati......... 43-95 L 9866
12/29/04 NICHOLLS STATE........ 76-61 W 824
01/03/05 *at Alabama State...... 68-69 L 532
01/05/05 *at Alabama A&M........ 60-64 L 798
01/08/05 *ALCORN STATE.......... 70-58 W 8000
01/10/05 *SOUTHERN.............. 74-85 L 3981
01/15/05 *at Texas Southern..... 66-76 L 2354
01/17/05 *at Prairie View A&M... 60-48 W 1928
01/22/05 *at Grambling State.... 68-66 W 2480
01/29/05 *MISS. VALLEY STATE.... 60-65 L 4835
01/31/05 *ARK.-PINE BLUFF....... 91-88 WOT 1056
02/05/05 *at Alcorn State....... 68-63 W 6325
02/07/05 *at Southern........... 65-66 L 1172
02/12/05 *TEXAS SOUTHERN........ 72-54 W 1262
02/14/05 *PRAIRIE VIEW A&M...... 81-71 WOT 1066
02/19/05 *GRAMBLING STATE....... 62-58 W 3139
02/26/05 *at Miss. Valley State. 71-80 L 5120
02/28/05 *at Ark.-Pine Bluff.... 78-72 W 1064
 
tierre said:
Show me how Grambling is ahead of Jackson St. and Jackson St. swept Grambling. They both have the same record. Jackson St. beat them
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Jackson & Gram are tied in conference play (Gram is not ahead). It is listed that way because Gram's over all record is better.

Notice Bama State & S.U. are tied also but S.U. overall record is better so they are listed ahead of bama.
 
At this point, the order that tied teams are listed mean nothing.
If teams do finish the season tied, over-all record has to be way down the list on any scenarios to break the tie.
 
mighty hornet said:
At this point, the order that tied teams are listed mean nothing.
If teams do finish the season tied, over-all record has to be way down the list on any scenarios to break the tie.
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As I've always understood it a teams over-all record is and has alway been the first tie-breaker. It would seem to be pretty obvious that's the case since that's the way they put them in order.
 
bluedog said:
As I've always understood it a teams over-all record is and has alway been the first tie-breaker. It would seem to be pretty obvious that's the case since that's the way they put them in order.
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INCORRECT..... it goes by head to head competition, then if the teams split it goes by margin of victory....

with these standings they are probably waiting until the season ends to figure out all the technicalities in dealing with margin of victories. Too much of a mess to do it now when teams still have games left.
 
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