William Bennett said...

[C.O.G.]

..."to reduce the crime rate in America just abort every African-American baby and it will go down." He did go on to say that the idea is asinine but it would work.
Is this racist?
Is this true?

 

[MACKG]

I don't agree with EVERY AA baby going down. His comments are rather extreme. But if you look at the amount of AA men in prison...living in poverty...robbing and looting and blaming eveyone except themselves for being in such dire conditions, he may be on to something. But he needs to add Mexicans, poor white trash and every other contribution to crime in AmeriKKKa. Just my opinion.

 

[C.O.G.]

I don't agree with EVERY AA baby going down. His comments are rather extreme. But if you look at the amount of AA men in prison...living in poverty...robbing and looting and blaming eveyone except themselves for being in such dire conditions, he may be on to something. But he needs to add Mexicans, poor white trash and every other contribution to crime in AmeriKKKa. Just my opinion.

I agree. I was leaving it to someone else to say. But he could have just as eaily have said that if all children of poor Americans were aborted. Thes statement would have been true still. Why are we singled out? We always are. That does not make his remark untrue. This reminds me of the remark by Fox.

 

[Incipience]

Its funny how everytime someone makes an "azzwholish" comment, and get called on it, they say it was taken out context.

 

[Da_Sperm]

Crime is mostly tied to money, mostly lack of thereof.

I listened to a speach by MLK son about the dragging death of that black man in Jasper, TX a few years ago. He said that 1) had the black man had a job, then maybe we would have had a car and would not have been walking the lonely gravel road at midnight and 2) had the killers had a job with a house and responsibilities then maybe that would have thought twice about killing the man because they would have had "SOMETHING" to loose.

Mathematically speaking, his statement is "TRUE". Crime would go down in Amercia if every AA baby was aborted. However the same statement is true with every race, simply because in due time that race would exist, thus less crime from that race.

 

[cat daddy]

..."to reduce the crime rate in America just abort every African-American baby and it will go down." He did go on to say that the idea is asinine but it would work.
Is this racist?
Is this true?

No it is not true. Criminals come in all colors and and from different back grounds.

 

[BLAQUE PRINCE]

I agree. I was leaving it to someone else to say. But he could have just as eaily have said that if all children of poor Americans were aborted. Thes statement would have been true still. Why are we singled out? We always are. That does not make his remark untrue. This reminds me of the remark by Fox.

Yep once again singled out because aborting ANY group of babies would reduce the crime rate.

Alot of folk seemed not to understand that about Fox's comment. I call it the Bill Cosby syndrome because ever since his remarks there have been some of us that accept any negative statements made about blacks as the truth. :shame:

 

[TheScribe]

Its funny how everytime someone makes an "azzwholish" comment, and get called on it, they say it was taken out context.

Thank you! That man is just a total racist and he finds nothing wrong with it. There is a number to call to boycott Bennett. I will post that number momentarily.

 

[MACKG]

Now that I think about it, I wonder how Bennett would feel if rich white babies were aborted to prevent potential "white collar" crimes. No more Martha Stewarts and Bernie Ebbers to terrorize the community!!!!

 

[TheScribe]

I got this email from a Black Journalists' List Serve :

Hi Everyone - Many of you may already know about the comment that Bill
Bennett, former Secretary of Ed under Reagan made on his syndicated radio
show on Sept 28th. Mr. Bennett said the following:

"You could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would
go down."

I have included the the phone and fax number for Salem Radio Network which
syndicates his show - You can also go to their website and comment. Mr.
Bennett's program is called Bill Bennett's Morning in America

Salem Radio Network (P) 972-831-1920 and (fax) 972-831-8626.

You can also go to Media Matters website and actually here the quote and
play the audio clip.

Please lend your voice and tell Salem Radio Network that Bill Bennett has
to go.

 

[MACKG]

Now I don't think he has to go. Because if someone black went on BET saying that all white babies should be aborted to prevent crime and the white people wanted that person fired, Jesse and Rev Al would be screaming for another boycott. I still believe in freedom of speech(regardless of how ignorant it is).

 

[buckwheat]

Just because this guy makes such a dumb comment, doesn't mean the we should act upon it. He should have said why not try to prevent crime by educating the poor and making life better for people that are stuggling. Also, because a person is poor doesn't mean they will be involved in Crime. Hell, with all of the white collar crimes going on they can cause people to loose jobs.

 

[TheScribe]

Just because this guy makes such a dumb comment, doesn't mean the we should act upon it. He should have said why not try to prevent crime by educating the poor and making life better for people that are stuggling. Also, because a person is poor doesn't mean they will be involved in Crime. Hell, with all of the white collar crimes going on they can cause people to loose jobs.

Come now. You really think Jewish people would sit back and let people disrespect their folks? I think not.

 

[C.O.G.]

No it is not true. Criminals come in all colors and and from different back grounds.

Agreed. Read Sperm's post. If any race were eradicated the crime rate would decline. That logically follows.
Now look at the per centage of us in prison. The crime rate would drop dramatically if our babies were aborted. They are the future prisoners. I do not like this anymore than anyone but it is true. If not why are we overcrowding the prisons in disporportionate numbers. That can not be denied.

 

[C.O.G.]

Crime is mostly tied to money, mostly lack of thereof.

I listened to a speach by MLK son about the dragging death of that black man in Jasper, TX a few years ago. He said that 1) had the black man had a job, then maybe we would have had a car and would not have been walking the lonely gravel road at midnight and 2) had the killers had a job with a house and responsibilities then maybe that would have thought twice about killing the man because they would have had "SOMETHING" to loose.

Mathematically speaking, his statement is "TRUE". Crime would go down in Amercia if every AA baby was aborted. However the same statement is true with every race, simply because in due time that race would exist, thus less crime from that race.

Those remarks were insensitive of Dexter (I think it was he). It is stereotyping poor blacks and whites. It is insensitive of the plight of poor black males to get jobs and stereotypes the premise that black men do not want to work.

 

[C.O.G.]

Now that I think about it, I wonder how Bennett would feel if rich white babies were aborted to prevent potential "white collar" crimes. No more Martha Stewarts and Bernie Ebbers to terrorize the community!!!!

Good thought. And my point earlier was why not say the same about poor whites. Abort them and that will reduce the crime rate too. Then, I acquiesce to the porportion of prisoners who are african american. Then the question arises to how fairly they were imprisoned.

 

[Da_Sperm]

Those remarks were insensitive of Dexter (I think it was he). It is stereotyping poor blacks and whites. It is insensitive of the plight of poor black males to get jobs and stereotypes the premise that black men do not want to work.

I don't know if it is insensitive. It was more about responsibility than money. You see, I have a wife and 3 kids that depend on me and have been for the past 8 years. Stupid thoughts have come across my mind. I have wanted to bust a cap in someone's arse in those 8 years, but I know that if I do, then who will handle my responsibilities at home while I'm in jail. I'm able to handle those responsibilities in part because I work for a living. I have something to lose. Those who have something to lose, will think twice before they act.

The outcome may have been the same if these 3 men had jobs and were taking care of their responsibilities, BUT the chances of it not happening would be HIGHER if they had something to lose.

 

[jag4life]

Now look at the per centage of us in prison. The crime rate would drop dramatically if our babies were aborted. They are the future prisoners. I do not like this anymore than anyone but it is true. If not why are we overcrowding the prisons in disporportionate numbers. That can not be denied.

No the CONVICTION rate would drop drastically.

 

[Bengal E]

THIS STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE!!!! You can rationalize it any way you like. If all male babies or female babies or babies whose names begin/end with M, etc. were aborted, rates should fall. If I had been aborted the rates would not have fallen. It was a dumb, ignorant racist statement that did not fit within the context of his conversation. Now if he had thrown out statistics or something to set up this statement then perhaps I wouldn't see it this way. But to just arbitrarily single out a particular race of people and make an assinine statement about them while trying to disprove another assinine statement....well he just let his feelings show, that's all.

 

[C.O.G.]

No the CONVICTION rate would drop drastically.

If you are eluding to a point I made earlier, thanks for phrasing it better than I did.
The crime rate would be as high, but these white folks would not be convicted????
Probably not charged.

 

[HORNETSWARM]

..."to reduce the crime rate in America just abort every African-American baby and it will go down." He did go on to say that the idea is asinine but it would work.
Is this racist?
Is this true?

If you aborted white children, crystal meth wouldn't be around either. There are some black people in prison simply because white people want them there. If we aborted more white children, then it wouldn't be anymore "skinheads" or "Klansman" around, and also the continued flying of the confederate flag in the future.

 

[ALJSU3]

Agreed. Read Sperm's post. If any race were eradicated the crime rate would decline. That logically follows.
Now look at the per centage of us in prison. The crime rate would drop dramatically if our babies were aborted. They are the future prisoners. I do not like this anymore than anyone but it is true. If not why are we overcrowding the prisons in disporportionate numbers. That can not be denied.

You sound almost as foolish as William Bennett...this is totally crazy. We can't go around saying just because a baby is born to someone in prison or that parent has committed a crime that the child will do the same. I know children that had awful parents but they didn't let any obstacles stop them from succeeding the goals that they had set for themselves. We have to be careful listening to racist white people. They will justify anything they want to if they can get a few blacks to agree with them. We should all be angry about anyone making such ignorant statements. :shame:

 

[Stormy]

<marquee>Just a Good Ole Boy.....Never Meaning No Harm.....Just a little Genocide!!!</marquee>

By Pamela Gentry, Senior Political Producer

Should William be fired from his radio host job for his comments about Black babies? Click "Discuss Now" to talk about it.

Posted Sept. 30, 2005 ? As if Republican leaders weren?t getting enough attention these days for the steady stream of ethical breaches, William Bennett ? the former secretary of Education under President Reagan and self-proclaimed moral leader? has infuriated the civil rights community and Democratic leaders with what most agree is downright insensitive, at best.

?? [Y]ou could abort every Black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down,? he said to listeners on his call-in program, ?Bill Bennett?s Morning in America.? ?That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down.?

Reaction from the civil rights community and Democratic leadership was swift.

An outraged Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-Ill.) told me last night that this is only the latest in a long list of pejorative comments from the right wing. ?When you hear racially offensive remarks from Bill Bennett, Barbara Bush, Trent Lott, you have to ask yourself, ?Are these Republicans? ?real values,?? Jackson said.

Jackson told me that he and colleague Rep. Shelia Jackson Lee (D-Texas) are drafting a letter to the Federal Communication Commission, hoping that the agency, which monitors decency over the airwaves, will take appropriate action. ?I believe this meets the indecency act ? he has associated crime with infant Black babies, and there is no acceptable rational explanation for that,? Jackson added.

In the U.S. Senate, Democratic Leader Harry Reid said he is ?appalled by Mr. Bennett?s remarks and called on him to issue an immediate apology ? not only to African Americans but to the nation. At a time when so many Americans are struggling to recover from two devastating Hurricanes, now is the time to help one another, not feed the fires of racism.?

?Mr. Bennett should immediately apologize to the nation for making a statement that clearly crossed the line,? said Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

The anger wasn?t confined to Capitol Hill.

Bruce S. Gordon, the president and CEO of the NAACP, wants action now. ?I am personally offended and angry that Bennett felt he could make such a public statement with impunity,? Gordon said. ?The owners of the Salem Radio Network, which airs Bennett's program, should also apologize."

Marc H. Morial, President and CEO of the National Urban League, said that ?William Bennett?s comments smack of such blatant racism and ill regard for all African Americans that it is incomprehensible. His comments are revealing and should put into question his value as a social commentator that is afforded media attention.?

The most surprising thing about Bennett?s comments is his timing.

He picked a week when Republicans are having a morality meltdown. Rep. Tom Delay, (R-Texas) was indicted Tuesday on conspiracy charges and was forced to step down as House Majority Leader. Sen. Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), the Senate Majority Leader, is under fire from New York state prosecutors and the feds for insider-trading charges. (Consumer watchdogs want to know how Frist, whose stocks are held in a blind trust, knew to dump millions of dollars in stock from the nation?s largest for-profit hospital chain, which his father founded.) All this on the heels of the country?s top emergency official being forced to resign, essentially because he had buddies in the White House, rather than qualifications.

This isn?t the first time that Bennett ? who was forced to acknowledge a multi-million-dollar gambling habit a couple years ago ? has been in the spotlight debating morality. In fact, he has made a career out of ?talking? about morality. Among his many works are ?The Book of Virtues,? ?The Moral Compass: Stories for a Life's Journey,? ?The Death of Outrage: Bill Clinton and the Assault on American Ideals,? and ?The Broken Hearth: Reversing the Moral Collapse of the American Family.?

Jackson says he is hoping this will be a wake-up call for some Black preachers and religious leaders, many of whom have been trying to convince African Americans they should join Mr. Bennett and the right wing evangelical movement.

?They should issue their immediate denunciations and distance themselves from him immediately,? Jackson said.

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<center>We need to get proactive about these things and talk to these
"conservative" people in a language they'll understand.
Lynch Bennett!</center>
Don't call for his resignation....get a rope and let's dispense some "conservative justice" of our own. Please excuse me ....I mean...the idea of a lynching is just asinine of course. This guy only went on to say that the idea was asinine to excuse his previous statement. He said exactly what he wanted to say. And the entire statement was asinine, as is the notion. To even suggest genocide as a "crime solution" is deplorable at best (I don't care about the dayum context). C'mon these people are on the radio trying to out-conservative each other and ever so often they say something like this to bring them closer to their overtly racist audiences.

I'm not even going to talk about the lack of merit of the argument: The discrepancy in equal justice, and the astronomical discrepancy of the ratio of innocent black people serving time vs. any other racial group. I won't even talk about the fact that the poorest of any group, broken down anyway you want to cut it, are the most likely to commit crimes...while black people are 10-to-1 to be prosecuted and/or serve time vs. anyone else for those crimes. I'm not going to talk about any of that. Instead, I'll just say: Crime is not a black thing......

But basically at the end of all the reasons why his opinion and suggestion are bogus,
and at the end of the day this is how I feel.....Phugg Him!
:kaioken:
~Astrya

 

[C.O.G.]

You sound almost as foolish as William Bennett...this is totally crazy. We can't go around saying just because a baby is born to someone in prison or that parent has committed a crime that the child will do the same. I know children that had awful parents but they didn't let any obstacles stop them from succeeding the goals that they had set for themselves. We have to be careful listening to racist white people. They will justify anything they want to if they can get a few blacks to agree with them. We should all be angry about anyone making such ignorant statements. :shame:

Even without the context of my other posts you should have understood this.

There is a greater percentage of blacks in prison than any other race. If The percentage of living AA declines the % in prison declines also. ...Basic statistics.

Who said anything about the possiblity or probability of the children of inmates becoming inmates?

 

[jag4life]

There is a greater percentage of blacks in prison than any other race. If The percentage of living AA declines the % in prison declines also. ...Basic statistics.

You sure? Think about it.