why & How does "white flight" destroy a community?


BLAQUE PRINCE said:
Thanks for asking the questions that "we" don't. The answers are that we don't care what the HOA says, don't participate and don't understand or care about property value. The common areas go neglected because we don't care to hold anybody accountable for them if they are city maintained and don't hire lawn people if they are community maintained. We prefer to just say "the city don't care" when the opportunity arises. There's also a problem with "white return". When the whites come back the businesses come back and the property taxes go up and the next thing you know people are screaming gentrification.

Now to be fair whites don't just flee blacks. They flee whites too. Its not just blacks that don't care about their neighborhoods. Go to any suburb where there are lots of lease homes and you'll see white people doing the same things and white people fleeing from them. The thing is there are way more of them that understand property value to form neighborhoods than there are of us.
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I care about my neighborhood. :lol:

I know, I know...you're talking about "those blacks"...but you said, "we" as if we're all one.

We're not. But we're the only group of people where we are all lumped together as one.

But carry on...:lol:
 
Bane said:
I'm sorry, but white flight doesn't destroy a community. Whites move to their own communities and the educated successful blacks run behind them like puppies. Once they see us they slowly role out, 'White Flight'. When they leave there is enough successful educated successful blacks to maintain those communities and sustain the businesses. Instead of staying put and building up our own, we start the 'Black Flight' and run behind whites again. The cycle has been on going since integration.
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True.
 



southsuburbs said:
1. It could be because their neighbors don't cut their grass

2. Or they don't keep their property up (junk everywhere)

3. disturbing the peace with noise (loud parties, loud vehicles, etc)

4. paint their house a certain color

5. have pets


I'm sure the list could go on and on.
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Section 8
 
DC is interesting though. You have traditional all black neighborhoods like Brentwood, Eckington, NOMA, and Brookland now getting an influx of young white couples.
 
southsuburbs said:
I don't know if they are Section 8 or not. I was picturing actual instances (from personal experiences or friend's experiences to articles I've read in the paper) when I made that list.
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I've lived around successful educated blacks since I graduated college and all live normal and not like animals. Only when renters, mainly Section 8, move in you start seeing things go down. But I think successful blacks can have an influence over them if they were to reach out. Instead they run and those communities go down hill real quick.
 
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jsupop33 said:
DC is interesting though. You have traditional all black neighborhoods like Brentwood, Eckington, NOMA, and Brookland now getting an influx of young white couples.
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That is happening in a lot of cities. I read it's hard to find blacks in Harlem, NY.
 
jsupop33 said:
Actually, those white kids are moving to the heart of the city. My apartment complex is about 65% white and we are in the middle of the hood in DC.
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That just recently started approximately 5 to 10 years ago. White flight started somewhere in the 50's and 60's, which is approximately the same time the court case Brown versus the Board of Education happened in 1954. For approximately 50 to 60 years, White Flight created a huge financial vacuum for this country's inner cities. Although the City of Detroit has lost more than half of its population (mainly Whites) from 1950 to 2010, the population of the entire metro area of Detroit hasn't decline that much during the same time period. Detroit’s White population in 1950 was 1,545,847. In 2010 Detroit’s White population was only 75,758, which is a drastic decrease from 1950.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Detroit
 
SleepyCrat said:
White flight doesn't hurt a neighborhood that bad, but black middle class flight does.
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Thank You. I've been preaching that for the longest. A lot of folks just don't understand how the black community really got destroyed. When the successful blacks (middle class) turned their backs and fled (Black Flight) our communites turned for the worse.
 
Bruh you hit that right on the head. I gotta agree 100%.
Bane said:
I'm sorry, but white flight doesn't destroy a community. Whites move to their own communities and the educated successful blacks run behind them like puppies. Once they see us they slowly role out, 'White Flight'. When they leave there is enough successful educated blacks to maintain those communities and sustain the businesses. Instead of staying put and building up our own, we start the 'Black Flight' and run behind whites again. The cycle has been on going since integration.
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You are 100% correct also. Black middle class is what makes or breaks middle class neighborhoods. As someone who has had a lawn business for the last 17 years that is so true. Also white folks hate trashy whites worst than hood folks. I cut from rich to wanna be rich, to middle class to the hood. I see it all. Plus say what you want, but hood folks always got my money on time. Its the so called mofo's in Benz's and BMW's that ain't got 50 bucks. :shame:

SleepyCrat said:
White flight doesn't hurt a neighborhood that bad, but black middle class flight does.
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Bane said:
I'm sorry, but white flight doesn't destroy a community. Whites move to their own communities and the educated successful blacks run behind them like puppies. Once they see us they slowly role out, 'White Flight'. When they leave there is enough successful educated blacks to maintain those communities and sustain the businesses. Instead of staying put and building up our own, we start the 'Black Flight' and run behind whites again. The cycle has been on going since integration.
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Therefore, you must agree that integration hurt Blacks more than it helped us.
 



JAG89 said:
The Whites that have taken flight from the inner city were able to keep their jobs in the inner city, but they have taken their money and tax revenue to their nice majority White bedroom communities outside of the inner city, which is why the City of Detroit and most American cities that are shrinking in population are financially struggling.

Also, it has become a generational thing. The children of those same Whites that have moved away from the inner city years ago, grow up and continue to come back to the inner city for the same jobs their parents once had, but continue to migrate further away from the inner city.
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Riight they have kept their jobs in the inner city, but their taxes and disposable income has left,
so infrastructure suffers but what about lawns, trash, and the hanging around gas stations, that you didn't
see before white flight?

Oh and howcome these cities don't set up toll booths for those coming to work, and leaving in the afternoon?
 
southsuburbs said:
I care about my neighborhood. :lol:

I know, I know...you're talking about "those blacks"...but you said, "we" as if we're all one.

We're not. But we're the only group of people where we are all lumped together as one.

But carry on...:lol:
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Are you blind? Have you not been around Asians? If they aren't taking up a whole chunk of a city that ends up being called China town they are buying up blocks in a neighborhood. I've watched it and had realtors tell me how some won't buy unless they can get houses for their neighbors and friends in the area. Why do you think there are rows of them in some neighborhoods? Discovered the same thing when talking to some hispanics that were showing me how their family owns the whole block. I've only found a very few black associates that would like to do the same.

So yea I know its a joke to you that I think we're all one. The joke is ON you however if you think we're the only group that's lumped together as one. The other groups are doing it on purpose. What do you think white flight means? It means all the whites (a group) get the hell up out and move to areas with other whites.

Damn WE are in trouble. :smh:
 
Tony said:
Riight they have kept their jobs in the inner city, but their taxes and disposable income has left,
so infrastructure suffers but what about lawns, trash, and the hanging around gas stations, that you didn't
see before white flight?

Oh and howcome these cities don't set up toll booths for those coming to work, and leaving in the afternoon?
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Which is why traffic coming into the inner city is so bad in mornings and vice-versa in evenings.
 
I have question would any of you buy a home in a area with high crime or where folks (all races) don't take care of their property?
 
southsuburbs said:
Call and ask those folks that made the statement...:emlaugh:

This thread sounds like a "White is right", "grass is greener on the other side" type of discussion. I don't know if that's where you are trying to go or not. One of the reasons why I haven't replied to your posts where you ask the "Why" questions is because there are plenty of "good" neighborhoods that are predominantly Black, or are pretty evenly diverse, that don't fit those descriptions.

Some people are just not "civilized" or have no home training. We've all heard of the term "trailer park trash" when describing a white person that's not "civilized". The difference between them and us, in my opinion, is we try to lump all of us together and we allow others to lump all of us together.
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ok but we're talking about the same plot of land. If it's so-called civilized when white folks are there, and for whatever reason they leave, and the same land mass becomes uncivilized.

Did the uncivilized people move there or were they there all along, just behaving themselves?

Because if I'm civilized but whites move because I'm black if other civilized blacks come, the area shouldn't go to hell
like it seems to me to do without strict covenants.
 
Tony said:
ok but we're talking about the same plot of land. If it's so-called civilized when white folks are there, and for whatever reason they leave, and the same land mass becomes uncivilized.

Did the uncivilized people move there or were they there all along, just behaving themselves?

Because if I'm civilized but whites move because I'm black if other civilized blacks come, the area shouldn't go to hell
like it seems to me to do without strict covenants.
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The question is how many of the blacks own the property they are acting a fool on.
 
southsuburbs said:
1. It could be because their neighbors don't cut their grass

2. Or they don't keep their property up (junk everywhere)

3. disturbing the peace with noise (loud parties, loud vehicles, etc)

4. paint their house a certain color

5. have pets


I'm sure the list could go on and on.
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So it's their ways!!!!!! :idea:

now we're getting somewhere!!

Ok so now a person's ways, about junk, noise, paint, pets etc etc has nothing to do with
economic power. It's Behavior! Now where does ones behavior come from? is it inherited, learned, or just instict
can it be unlearned or do people have the right to behave how ever they want, and if so is it better for all people with similar
behavior to dwell together
 
JAG89 said:
So you would like to see the hands of time turn back to pre-1950's and 60's?
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Only if 'Separate but Equal' was truly and honestly implemented. If that was the case we would have had 100s of Black Wall Streets like in Tulsa, OK.
 
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