Why do black parents continue to send their athletic children to HOSTILE predominantly white univs?

[The Founder]

No one has to tell me racism is everywhere...I have experienced it first hand. Went to an interview once...was all but assured I had the job until the woman saw my face. I could go on an on but I won't.

I never burdened my children with my experiences with racism. Once they (my son in particular) was faced with it I helped him to deal with what happened to him. And before ANY of you assume he is a pants sagging tattoo having earring wearing baggy clothes wearing fellow he has NEVER been into that. He has always been an every two week hair cut getting (edge up in between hair cuts) neatly groomed very particular about his clothes and how they fit kind of fellow (not at all like me in that regard). Glad he is finally out of my pocket with that every two week haircut thing.

I just get so tired of hearing all of these apologists for white folks' bad behavior. Some of you were in the military and that is fine. I NEVER wanted to go to the military. That is an experience I never wanted to have...ROTC in high school was enough for me. I was resigned to go IF I was drafted but the draft was ended before my number was called and I was one happy colored person.

I feel you.... Whether we like it or not concerning the military the academies are by far the best. I just believe it is up to us as parents to help our children no matter what environment they are in.

 

[jag4life]

So how does schools like Wisconsin-Green Bay, Central Arkansas & Grand Canyon do it? Winthrop's budget is LOWER than Southern and a few other HBUCs. Yet they have been to the basketball tourney 9 out of 17 years since 2000. Southern has 3 trips.

So how are they getting players to do that? Cold it be money is not being spent right? All those beat down games should do something right?

Winthrop has no football. Their BASKETBALL (and recruiting) budget is much higher than Southern's basketball budget. Same with WGB and Grand Canyon.

 

[In_The_662]

Winthrop has no football. Their BASKETBALL (and recruiting) budget is much higher than Southern's basketball budget. Same with WGB and Grand Canyon.

Same with Gonzaga. They are exploring starting a football team now that they are an established basketball power. They could jump straight to FBS like UTSA did I believe (either them or Texas State)

People don't understand how expensive football is when it comes to recruiting ,scholarships, etc. Schools that don't have one can invest into basketball, baseball, etc. without football hogging a ton of the resources

 

[Lenard]

Mr. Tom all of that was not for you and I am not in my feeling about mine and what we decided was best for him, I'm in my feelings about all these other foolish comments about race issues only occurring at pwc's when we as black people are some of the biggest racists of others and between ourselves, plus we act like if our black athletes come to only our black schools they will not be used and everyone of them will graduate and be help along in life and it is a damn bold face lie!

I don't disagree w/ you guh. And yes, HBCUs will use kids as those other schools do, if unchecked.

I'm sexually frustrated. Wear that lil' purple sheer deal I bought you 2 summers ago so I can put it down tonight. I got .478 seconds of good loving I'm giving you latero on. I'm on 45S near madisonville so I can go watch that one game w/ that big DE. Also break out the wire pliers because it's taken me 6 days and I STILL cannot figure out how to get Grambling St's foot out my raggedy decrepit azz. smh GSU's foot... Bewild's ass... they always win that battle .

 

[EB]

From an academic sense, a small school has a big advantage because of the smaller classes, especially in the STEM majors. I saw this in more ways than one.

When it comes to players, it has been long proven that one does not have to go to a big school. The head men's basketball coach at the University of Alabama proved that. One of the TV personalities on Fox NFL Sunday and Good Morning American proved that too, and he was not heavily recruited at all. Actually, three of the commentators on the Fox pre-game showed proved that. They are all Super Bowl winners who are also in the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Strahan at TSU, Bradshaw at Louisiana Tech, and Long at Villanova).

In 1995 a SWAC quarterback was the number three pick in the NFL draft. His team, the Titans, said that they would bring him along slowly. He led his teams to multiple playoffs and a Super Bowl. He also was a co-MVP of the league.

A quarterback out of California was the 21st pick in the 2005 draft by the Packers. They had to work on some things with him like his footwork. He is a two-time MVP, has won a Super Bowl and is called by some the best passer in league history.

We know that one guy's name was Steve McNair. The other guy is Aaron Rodgers. Also, Jared Goff of the L.A. Rams is also out of Cal and is having a much better season than last year. How much of it is coaching? It could be a lot, but he is playing better this season.

Going pro from a big school is overrated because to be honest a lot of time your on the radar if you are a big time high school recruit

I have seen scouts ask for a transfer who has yet to play a down on our level just because they remember them from high school

In basketball, big-time recruits flop all the time but still go to the NBA based off potential. They are not getting better in one year because they are in the ACC. They come in already ready to play. Anyone can coach that.

These are true. Pro scouts look at kids in high school or earlier. They do not start looking at players while they are in college.

I am waiting for Fort Valley State to make a comeback. During the eighties they, a D-II school, sent some top notch players to the NFL.

 

[EB]

Because as a parent, you can teach them all you want about hbcu's, but when it boils down to it there are very few selling points that you're going to give a kid to make them choose AAMU over Alabama. There's 1000 reasons you could list here for why that happens. Yes, if you're a good athlete you can be found anywhere. But also yes, if you ball out at Alabama you're more likely to go in the first round vs a later one. That's not really even including all the other intangibles like facilities, nutritionists... or for some, even having dedicated position coaches. Being a black school isnt good enough, you have to bring the same things to the table that they do and then you wouldnt have to worry about it. Even things as simple as constantly recycling the same coaches matters.

not for basketball. You can make the argument for football but again, these kids come in already made so all Saban is doing is refining and tweaking.

Alabama does not recruit kids of certain sizes and statures to begin with so there's less development they focus on.

I would hesitate to make the argument for football too. Other than that I agree. Note that at Alabama those players are fighting mad for playing time. I wonder how many first team all-state players or high school all-Americans are on the bench.

Again no matter where a player played their college ball, the pro coaches will work on the fundamentals and will teach the rookie to play the game their way.