Why are punting and place kicking ignored by the men in our community?


LAW DAWG said:
Can we address the elephant in the room? Why have black men all but just handed over punting and place kicking to others?
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Because its not popular. My best friend who is the son of Reggie Roby was also a Kicker/Punter in high school was getting recruited by ACC and B10 schools to kick expressed he never heard from any HBCUs.
 



tsuball10 said:
Because its not popular. My best friend who is the son of Reggie Roby was also a Kicker/Punter in high school was getting recruited by ACC and B10 schools to kick expressed he never heard from any HBCUs.
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If he got recruited by the ACC and B10 that is reason enough for it to be popular. If popularity is the gauge then we're operating off of dysfunctional thinking.
 
unknown1 said:
That's not where you make money lol...and outside of a few, no one remembers the name of the kicker. There are plenty of em at the black schools in Atlanta though.
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Plenty money being made by NFL kickers, are you talking about NIL?

Even if you are scholarships are still available.

Name recognition and popularity, really?
 
I always wondered about this also. Also baseball should be added. I remember back in the 70's and early 80's baseball was popular for inner city black kids in Atlanta. I played at John A. White park, Hosely Temple and John F Kennedy lil league teams.
 
CEE DOG said:
I always wondered about this also. Also baseball should be added. I remember back in the 70's and early 80's baseball was popular for inner city black kids in Atlanta. I played at John A. White park, Hosely Temple and John F Kennedy lil league teams.
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Basketball and Baseball are now upper middle class sports at the elite level. Two parents homes spending boat loads of money on training, aau , fall ball etc. Same with Soccer etc.
 
I believe the real reason is that we traditionally don't play a lot of soccer in our community. Fortunately, I did play a lot of soccer growing up and thus, I was a punter and kicker in high school and college. (Amongst playing other positions in football and other sports in high school)
 
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The Founder said:
Because it is not a position the is widely seen unless the kicker wins the game....honestly I wouid rather be a NFL kicker....the chances of me developing CTE are extreme slim.
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Basically, it's just not crossing our mind. That's what I'm reading based on the comments. It crosses the mind of others, but not ours. Maybe other folks notice it because it is their folks doing the punting and place kicking...???

Oh well!

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Breakdown of kicker salaries
  • Highest paid: Harrison Butker holds the record with a four-year, 1760998331243.png million extension averaging 1760998331330.png million per year. Jake Elliott and Justin Tucker are also among the highest-paid, with averages of 6 million per year.
  • Mid-to-high tier: Many established kickers have average annual salaries in the 1760998331547.png million to 1760998331724.png million range.
  • League minimum: The NFL's collective bargaining agreement sets the minimum salary for most players, including kickers. Recent figures place this around $750,000 to $893,333 per year.
  • Overall average: When factoring in the high salaries of top kickers and the low salaries of those at the minimum, the overall average salary for an NFL kicker is approximately $1.5 million to $1.6 million per year.
 

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CEE DOG said:
I always wondered about this also. Also baseball should be added. I remember back in the 70's and early 80's baseball was popular for inner city black kids in Atlanta. I played at John A. White park, Hosely Temple and John F Kennedy lil league teams.
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I was about to mention baseball. That was my primary sport
 
those are technique based positions that require tons of outside coaching (money) and basically you have to dedicate yourself to it from the jump -in some states soccer and football are played at the same time in high school
 



Baseball has increasingly become a sport out of reach for many in our inner-city communities. Unlike 30 or 40 years ago, we’re seeing fewer local teams, limited access to quality facilities, and a noticeable drop in grassroots interest. The cost of equipment, travel ball, and training has created barriers that didn’t exist for previous generations. As a result, many of our most gifted young athletes are gravitating toward football and basketball—sports that are more visible, more accessible, and often better supported in schools and neighborhoods. Even those who show early promise in baseball often drift away by the time they reach middle or high school. It’s a complex and unfortunate shift.
 
Some of you hit the nail right on the head when it comes to the cost of some positions and some sports. Another Factor is how popular a sport or position is in your community. If I'm a coach, I'm developing my skilled position punters, kickers, and snappers when they're in the 7th grade. I'm also making sure if I'm a high school coach that I have a real park program for baseball, softball, golf, tennis and other repetitious sports.
We tend to lean on just athleticism then develop skills. I was a punter and kicker at Texas Southern while also being a baseball player.
 
Raoul said:
Some of you hit the nail right on the head when it comes to the cost of some positions and some sports. Another Factor is how popular a sport or position is in your community. If I'm a coach, I'm developing my skilled position punters, kickers, and snappers when they're in the 7th grade. I'm also making sure if I'm a high school coach that I have a real park program for baseball, softball, golf, tennis and other repetitious sports.
We tend to lean on just athleticism then develop skills. I was a punter and kicker at Texas Southern while also being a baseball player.
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When I was in high school the football coach's son was the punter and he sent him to punting clinics during the summer to learn and get better. He was averaging over 30 yards per punt in high school.
 
Herbert77060 said:
When I was in high school the football coach's son was the punter and he sent him to punting clinics during the summer to learn and get better. He was averaging over 30 yards per punt in high school.
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It can be done, but it seems like it's not crossing enough of the men's minds, in our community, for their sons to get introduced to it early enough.

I just stumbled upon a camp former player and alum Robbie Hersh has here in Greater Houston.

hershkicking.com

Football Training Camp in Houston, TX

Hersh Brothers Kicking in Houston, TX is a camp that will provide your children with a chance to improve in football. Our team will offer concentrated instruction in the specialized areas of field goals, kickoffs, and punting for them. Do not hesitate to reach out to us for more information.
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Herbert77060 said:
And your point is?
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If schools aren't offering high school kickers and punters scholarships simply because the position isn't prioritized for one, why should a kid be encouraged to play that position?

That's the point.

Schools aren't going to waste scholarships -- especially with the priority now filling rosters with transfer guys at other positions -- on high school kickers.
 
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