Time For The SWAC Presidents To Make A Hard Decision...Starting with Hard Decision #1


BRAVEHEART123

The Clown Prince of Crime
Hard Decision #1:

Eliminate smaller sports that have no value. (We All Know Football is King and Basketball is #2).
 



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Which ones?

I propose slashing Cross Country, Golf, Women's Soccer, Bowling, and quite possibly, limiting track to either Outdoor or Indoor only. Notice Outdoor OR Indoor, can't be both. These sports are listed in the Sports drop-down on SWAC.org.

The money we can save can be used to infuse into the other sports in which the margin of loss is actually smaller and hopefully turn into more of a consistent profit (Profit, NOT Revenue)

We should honor the scholarships of those athletes already on Scholarship. If its 2013 and the kids are already signed, the sports would officially be eliminated in 2017.
 
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I guess you never heard of this thing called Title IX
 
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So we are gonna let all the Olympics who come to our schools go to other schools to receive glory huh? Amazing...........
 
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So we are gonna let all the Olympics who come to our schools go to other schools to receive glory huh? Amazing...........

That word would be OLYMPIANS Cee...but I guess I understand your point...BTW there has not been that many Olympians or future Olympians passing through our doors in the last 20 years!
 
Re: Time For The SWAC Presidents To Make A Hard Decision...Starting with Hard Decisio

I propose slashing Cross Country, Golf, Women's Soccer, Bowling, and quite possibly, limiting track to either Outdoor or Indoor only. Notice Outdoor OR Indoor, can't be both. These sports are listed in the Sports drop-down on SWAC.org.

The money we can save can be used to infuse into the other sports in which the margin of loss is actually smaller and hopefully turn into more of a consistent profit (Profit, NOT Revenue)

We should honor the scholarships of those athletes already on Scholarship. If its 2013 and the kids are already signed, the sports would officially be eliminated in 2017.

Even without Title IX, you would be eliminating sports to the point that we'd have to drop to Div 3 or NAIA.

Also, as non-profit schools, we cannot "turn a profit". Budgets are basically just spending and funding plans.
 
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I meant to type Olympians. :lol:, but with BH123 plan we won't ever be getting them again. :lol:
That word would be OLYMPIANS Cee...but I guess I understand your point...BTW there has not been that many Olympians or future Olympians passing through our doors in the last 20 years!
 
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That word would be OLYMPIANS Cee...but I guess I understand your point...BTW there has not been that many Olympians or future Olympians passing through our doors in the last 20 years!

Kinda sad considering TSU's history.
 
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I miss the glory days of our track program!!!

http://www.aamusports.com/news/2013/5/21/WTRACK_0521133741.aspx?path=wtrack

Dannette Young-Stone amazing her kids years after amazing track and field world

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- A host of people converged on the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame late Saturday morning, most dressed in identical T-shirts.
Dannette Young-Stone is interviewed next to her display at Alabama Sports Hall of Fame (Vasha Hunt/al.com)

The front was emblazoned with a photo. On the back was a long list of schools, teams and accomplishments. Items like:

NCAA Division II champion three consecutive years

Undefeated in four years of SIAC competition

Only lost one race in four years

Gold medalist in the 1988 Olympics

Silver medalist in the 1992 Olympics

Then at the very bottom:

Loving Wife & Mother of Three

The latter is now what defines Dannette Young-Stone, a former Alabama A&M track star who was enshrined Saturday into the hall.

"That's the most important part of the T-shirt," Stone said.

She was joined on the morning tour by family and friends, sporting the T-shirts with her likeness and her resume, gathering around a handsome display case that included various prizes and memorabilia, next to those of the other inductees -- Alabama coach Nick Saban, long-time college football coach Bill Oliver, former UNA basketball coach Bill Jones, former Auburn and NFL lineman Forrest Blue, ex-Auburn basketball player Vickie Orr, former Jacksonville State and NFL defensive back Eric Davis, ex-SEC and NFL official Ronnie Baynes.

Stone is not a pack-rat. But, as a family member chirped up, "The rest of us are." There was plenty to put on display. The Olympic gold medal. A pair of track shoes. Olympic rings. A warmup jacket.

"The memory I will take from this weekend is being part of one special occasion," she said. "It was very prestigious to me. It was something I can't explain. I couldn't ever dream of being inducted into the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame. Being around those professional athletes, great athletes, it was awesome."

Stone won a gold medal in the 1988 Olympics as part of the 4 x 100 meter relay team and won silver in the same event in the 1992 games. In 1988, in a meet in California, she ran the fastest 200-meter race in the world that year, at 22.34 seconds.
Dannette Young-Stone won medals in consecutive Olympics

At Alabama A&M, she was the NCAA Division II champ in the 100 and 200 for three years running and part of a record-setting relay team. In 1986, in the SIAC Championships, she competed in five events, winning all with record times. She was undefeated in four years of SIAC competition and lost just one race in her Division II career.

All of which seem to just now sink into her children as something pretty darn amazing.

"They had seen me as just Mom," she said. "I had shown pictures and video of what I did, but they thought, 'That's just Mom.' This weekend really opened their eyes about who I am and what I did. Chelsea (her 12-year-old daughter) told me, 'Mom, I can't believe you did all that.'"
 



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snickering at this thread
 
Re: Time For The SWAC Presidents To Make A Hard Decision...Starting with Hard Decisio

snickering at this thread

The Question is are they laughing at me or am I laughing at them? Laws do have loopholes in them...especially when a Federal Law must be administered by the NCAA.
 
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The title IX hurdle.

Also, is there a # of varsity sports required for conference participation by a member school? (SWAC)
 
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And then what sports are you gonna add to stay at 16 sports.
You need to maintain 16 sports programs to be D1..FCS.

Is there a requirement to the number of athletes that have to participate in any one sport?
 
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Can't we replace some of these sports with cheaper options such as Rifle, Fencing, Water Polo, Swimming, etc? All of these are offered by the NCAA.
 
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Is there a requirement to the number of athletes that have to participate in any one sport?

Title IX.
You have to maintain a equal % or ratio of women athletes to men. I think FOOTBALL is the one exception where they know the numbers won't be equal.
 
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I guess you never heard of this thing called Title IX

Title IX was the worst thing to happen to public education and small colleges and universities... It mean you have to spend money on things that don't make money... But I agree Fiyah.. He must aint never heard of it...

Also, you have to have a certain number of sports to be considered Division I
 
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The Question is are they laughing at me or am I laughing at them? Laws do have loopholes in them...especially when a Federal Law must be administered by the NCAA.

Try to loophole Title IX and your school will be sued in court. :tup:
 
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Can't we replace some of these sports with cheaper options such as Rifle, Fencing, Water Polo, Swimming, etc? All of these are offered by the NCAA.

How are they cheaper?

Also, Title IX requires the number of scholarships to be proportional to the student population. How many fencing, water polo, and rifle recruits can you find?
 
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