The Rushing Record(Emmitt vs Walter)
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J-State Tiger
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Congrats to Emmitt!!
Man its great to be a Florida GATOR!!! Congrats to E. Smith for breaking the all-time rushing record!
Man its great to be a Florida GATOR!!! Congrats to E. Smith for breaking the all-time rushing record!
Barry's the Best
Sanders was the greatest running back, EVER. Heck, he made Detroit competitive - 'nuff said.
The Next 5 are as follows
2. Jim Brown
3. O. J. Simpson
4. Walter Payton (Still pissed that they gave it to the Frig in that Super Bowl to score a touchdown)
5. Emmitt Smith
Sanders was the greatest running back, EVER. Heck, he made Detroit competitive - 'nuff said.
The Next 5 are as follows
2. Jim Brown
3. O. J. Simpson
4. Walter Payton (Still pissed that they gave it to the Frig in that Super Bowl to score a touchdown)
5. Emmitt Smith
Robber
Consigliere
Re: Barry's the Best
Me thinks not.
A running back who got tackled for more yards lost than anybody else, got took out of the game EVERY DAMN TIME Detroit got inside the 2 yard line, and who had the most meaningless 80 yard TD runs (Detroit would be losing 27-0 when he finally got loose) in the history of the game, is the greatest ever???
Me thinks not.
Dr. Mac
Player
Gale Sayers makes the top five before Emmitt Smith (IMO).
I put Emmit in the grouping with Franco Harris, Tony Dorsett, Eric Dickerson, Earl Cambell, and those folks. Emmit has done his thing, but the record is more a reflection of his longevity than anything else. And he benefitted from 16 game seasons his whole career.
The better indicator for running back is the career yards per carry average.
Regards.
Da_Sperm
New Member
IMO, longevity is one of the qualities that makes E the best. Why don't all backs make it 13 years, especially with 1 team? Because it is such a dangerous position. Then, to make it that long in a 16 game season, not to mention the playoffs and Super Bowl.
The best running back is the one with the most yards.
The best home running hitter is the one with the most home runs.
The best basketball player is the one with the most points.
The best reciever is the one with the most receptions.
The best pitcher is the one with the most wins.
In todays world, the best whatever is backed by numbers.
The richest person in the world is the one with the most number.
JR
Well-Known Member
Emmitt deserves his due and he earned the record. But I still think Walter was the better back just due to the horrible Bears team he played on. Emmitt only endured maybe one bad year early on. Actually when he got there he was the final piece of the puzzle. Walter would have ran for 2000 yds a year behind that Dallas line.
Barry Sanders was a product of his system. It wasn't his fault how the Lions used him. He still was one of the greatest ever. Remember he ran behind blocking in College at Ok. State. I blame Wayne Fontes for Barry doing all that dancing.
My top Rbs are:
1. Walter Payton- Simply the best ever
2. Jim Brown- I do agree he benefitted from being bigger in that era
3. Emmitt Smith- Heart and determination. Best eyes of any back.
4. Barry Sanders
5. Eric Dickerson
6. OJ Simpson
7. Tony Dorsett
8. Marshall Faulk - he will move up if he gets the ball more.
9. Gayle Sayers - career cut short
10.tie John Riggins- Big game back.
10. tie Earl Campbell- They ran this brother to death. SMH
I wish Bo Jackson could have kept playing. That brother was awesome. Franco Harries gets honorable mention. He tip- toed to much for me and I am a Long time Steeler Fan.
Barry Sanders was a product of his system. It wasn't his fault how the Lions used him. He still was one of the greatest ever. Remember he ran behind blocking in College at Ok. State. I blame Wayne Fontes for Barry doing all that dancing.
My top Rbs are:
1. Walter Payton- Simply the best ever
2. Jim Brown- I do agree he benefitted from being bigger in that era
3. Emmitt Smith- Heart and determination. Best eyes of any back.
4. Barry Sanders
5. Eric Dickerson
6. OJ Simpson
7. Tony Dorsett
8. Marshall Faulk - he will move up if he gets the ball more.
9. Gayle Sayers - career cut short
10.tie John Riggins- Big game back.
10. tie Earl Campbell- They ran this brother to death. SMH
I wish Bo Jackson could have kept playing. That brother was awesome. Franco Harries gets honorable mention. He tip- toed to much for me and I am a Long time Steeler Fan.
Robber
Consigliere
Jerry Rice would be a nobody if he had gone to Cincinatti. But he went to San Fran. Emmitt is a Cowboy and he is where he is today. Let's not act like Emmitt never had to make a move, break a tackle, or simply swat away the arms of a would be tackler with his right hand (which he does so well).
RAWRAY FROM J-STATE
Active Member
The Juice
O J was a good back, he is what I call a 20 - 20 back, similar to Barry. He was good with a long field, but he was average in the red zone.
O J was a good back, he is what I call a 20 - 20 back, similar to Barry. He was good with a long field, but he was average in the red zone.
JR
Well-Known Member
Re: O. J. Rated 6th?
Dang dude. Nobody was slamming OJ. That was my opinion. I thought OJ did his thing, but he also played on a Buffalo team with a good OL , a decent QB in Joe Ferguson and some decent WRs in Frank Lewis and others. But I just think Walter, Jim Brown, Emmitt, Barry, and Eric Dickerson were better is all. Actually if I judged OJ as a person, he would not have made my list and it has nothing to due with his trial either. I never did like that shuck and jive nicca. Jim brown would be off my list too. But I picked my list based on what I saw and the circumstances they had to achieve in.
Robber,
You and I both know Jerry Rice was going to be great. Hell his accomplishments are even more remarkable than what Emmitt has done. A WR has more TDs than any other NFL player in history. :eek2: :eek2: Jerry may be very well be the best FOOTBALL PLAYER EVER. He is the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Hell even greater. MJ don't own as many NBA records as Jerry does in the NFL. When he breaks Paytons all time NFL yardage record it is going to be there for much longer than Payton's rushing record stood. Heck, no WR will ever break it. It will take a RB like a Faulk to do it. Provided they can stay healthy.
Dang dude. Nobody was slamming OJ. That was my opinion. I thought OJ did his thing, but he also played on a Buffalo team with a good OL , a decent QB in Joe Ferguson and some decent WRs in Frank Lewis and others. But I just think Walter, Jim Brown, Emmitt, Barry, and Eric Dickerson were better is all. Actually if I judged OJ as a person, he would not have made my list and it has nothing to due with his trial either. I never did like that shuck and jive nicca. Jim brown would be off my list too. But I picked my list based on what I saw and the circumstances they had to achieve in.
Robber,
You and I both know Jerry Rice was going to be great. Hell his accomplishments are even more remarkable than what Emmitt has done. A WR has more TDs than any other NFL player in history. :eek2: :eek2: Jerry may be very well be the best FOOTBALL PLAYER EVER. He is the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Hell even greater. MJ don't own as many NBA records as Jerry does in the NFL. When he breaks Paytons all time NFL yardage record it is going to be there for much longer than Payton's rushing record stood. Heck, no WR will ever break it. It will take a RB like a Faulk to do it. Provided they can stay healthy.
Robber
Consigliere
I didn't fault Emmitt for anything. I'm on his side. JR mentioned what Walter would do in Dallas with that line, as opposed to what he had in Chicago. I'm merely pointing out that players are where they are, and we shouldn't minimize what they've done because of that. I know Chicago struggled, but I ain't gone believe that Walter ran for all them yards without somebody making a block.
And Rice wouldn't be nearly the "great" he's considered today if he had gone to Tampa Bay or some other non-passing team. Some players benefit from the system they are in. You think Steve Young got considerably better in San Fran after struggling in Tampa??? NO!!! He simply enjoyed the benefits of being in the 49er system.
JR
Well-Known Member
Those are true statements Robber. I don't blame Emmitt for that. He still had to make the runs and he took some vicious hits even more than Walter. I was just saying Walter may have done even more at Dallas. Walter had a good OL later on so he did get help. The first 4-5 years he only had Noah Jackson who was a mainstay on a makeshift OL.
Get Ready
Well-Known Member
Damn Barry
Barry was a punk and I hate it when people even mention Barry in the same breath as Emmitt.
Barry was a crybaby that held that Detroit team back. He never went to camp and he beyotched and moaned every year.
Barry was a 1st and second down back, that was it
Emmitt was a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down back
Emmitt was a pass blocker
Emmitt was a short yardage back
Emmitt was a goal line back
Emmitt could catch the ball out of the backfield
Barry did non of that.
Barry is not on the list with the top rushing TD makers because they always had to take him out when they got near the goal line. When Barry left the Lions, they went to the playoffs that same year. The year before they were 5-11 with him. Barry was a punt returner disguised as a RB.
The top RBs ever are:
Walter Payton
Emmitt Smith
And then everybody else can be lumped into one.
I even heard someone have the nerve to put Earl Campel near Emmitt.....Earl Campel didnt play but 8 damn years...and he sucked his last 3. So how does he even remotely equate with Emmitt?
Dr. Mac Says Sayers....Sayers didnt play but 5 years. How can he considered in the same league with Emmitt? If thats the case, Terrel Davis and Bo Jackson should be considered one of the best of all time.
Emmitt has scored the most TDs
Emmitt has run for the most yards
Emmitt has longevity...eleven 1000 yard seasons in a row
Emmitt has league MVPs
Emmitt has SB MVPs
Emmitt was simply the best...PERIOD
Barry was a punk and I hate it when people even mention Barry in the same breath as Emmitt.
Barry was a crybaby that held that Detroit team back. He never went to camp and he beyotched and moaned every year.
Barry was a 1st and second down back, that was it
Emmitt was a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down back
Emmitt was a pass blocker
Emmitt was a short yardage back
Emmitt was a goal line back
Emmitt could catch the ball out of the backfield
Barry did non of that.
Barry is not on the list with the top rushing TD makers because they always had to take him out when they got near the goal line. When Barry left the Lions, they went to the playoffs that same year. The year before they were 5-11 with him. Barry was a punt returner disguised as a RB.
The top RBs ever are:
Walter Payton
Emmitt Smith
And then everybody else can be lumped into one.
I even heard someone have the nerve to put Earl Campel near Emmitt.....Earl Campel didnt play but 8 damn years...and he sucked his last 3. So how does he even remotely equate with Emmitt?
Dr. Mac Says Sayers....Sayers didnt play but 5 years. How can he considered in the same league with Emmitt? If thats the case, Terrel Davis and Bo Jackson should be considered one of the best of all time.
Emmitt has scored the most TDs
Emmitt has run for the most yards
Emmitt has longevity...eleven 1000 yard seasons in a row
Emmitt has league MVPs
Emmitt has SB MVPs
Emmitt was simply the best...PERIOD