The Most Balanced Sound in '06? JSU!!!





JR said:
:goof: Dude that title will go to FAMU every year. End of discussion. And as far as SWAC bands go.........balanced sound usually falls with PV. Alot of that has to do with instrumentation.
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Thanks for the info, but since pv don't travel much, not many people get to hear them. They could be, but the best I've heard this year has been DA BOOM!!

Forgot this clip at the 9:00 minute mark.

http://vod.themarchingnetwork.com/category/Southern/34/caa4f921-fdbf-43da-872e-985b00c3b278.htm
 
JR said:
:goof: Dude that title will go to FAMU every year. End of discussion. And as far as SWAC bands go.........balanced sound usually falls with PV. Alot of that has to do with instrumentation.
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Is the PV director a FAMU alumnus?
 
JR said:
:goof: Dude that title will go to FAMU every year. End of discussion. And as far as SWAC bands go.........balanced sound usually falls with PV. Alot of that has to do with instrumentation.
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As far as famu's concerned, their sound is fine, but they fall waaayyyy short in the FUNK department. Guess that's their style.

No offense intended to famu's band, but their songs are kinda blandish and squarish, if you know what I mean.

Just my opinion though.
 
JayRob said:
As far as famu's concerned, their sound is fine, but they fall waaayyyy short in the FUNK department. Guess that's their style.

No offense intended to famu's band, but their songs are kinda blandish and squarish, if you know what I mean.

Just my opinion though.
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LOL. Balance is what they are and they play beautifully when playing ballads. Funk is not their forte. But they are great sounding. Arrangements for funk is a different story. SWAC bands have been historically more funky with their style of play and the arrangements than the MEAC bands.
 
JR said:
LOL. Balance is what they are and they play beautifully when playing ballads. Funk is not their forte. But they are great sounding. Arrangements for funk is a different story. SWAC bands have been historically more funky with their style of play and the arrangements than the MEAC bands.
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Right. I remember when PV came to UAPB for homecoming in 1982,I think they only had about 70-80 members on the field,but they sounded like they had a 100 more.(It's all in the voicing)
Anyway me and some more frats said at that game they gonna be hell in the future and sure 5 years later they came to Little Rock and turned it out with over 200 some members souding like a thousand .
 
Blanced is when you hear all the instruments MEANT to be heard in the final mix down...

You can't sound one way on one song, then can't hear your woodwinds on the next song and say you have a balanced band....

But again, balanced is when the PRODUCER(Band Director) has his band sounding the way he wants them to sound. And this is based on what ever your instrumentation....
 
The Boom is NOT balanced. They have a "good" sound. Arguably a symphonic one, but balanced? Better balanced? Balance would be UAPB in the stands. On the field would of course be Prairie View. Now, while moving (and I KNOW I'm gonna get folk disagreeing with me) but SU does a good job of this while in the drill. And yes, I KNOW they have a mic but......*anticipates folk arguing with me.





P.S. I don't go to SU
 
lilC said:
The Boom is NOT balanced. They have a "good" sound. Arguably a symphonic one, but balanced? Better balanced? Balance would be UAPB in the stands. On the field would of course be Prairie View. Now, while moving (and I KNOW I'm gonna get folk disagreeing with me) but SU does a good job of this while in the drill. And yes, I KNOW they have a mic but......*anticipates folk arguing with me.





P.S. I don't go to SU
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SU has never been mic'ed:shame: , thats grampax
 
mics are used by both bands at the classic, so don't come on here with that never mice'd lie, some stadiums have mics above the field so nothing can't be done about that, SU don't need mics and gsu don't need mics, but it happens
 



SUtrp96 said:
...But again, balanced is when the PRODUCER(Band Director) has his band sounding the way he wants them to sound. And this is based on what ever your instrumentation....
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Jared, I will differ with you in this regard: Balanced is when the band sounds the way the COMPOSER/ARRANGER intended for it to sound.
 
dacontinent said:
Jared, I will differ with you in this regard: Balanced is when the band sounds the way the COMPOSER/ARRANGER intended for it to sound.
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You are right... That's really what I mean.. I am used to all of our arrangers at SU being the Director....When Doc was there it was always the "Assts." Now it's the head director and the assts.
 
I don't know when the Boom became so balanced (not that they sound bad or are a bad band) but there is never a year to me that the Boom is not either Top heavy (Trumpet) or Bottom heavy (Baritone). I do think they are very entertaining and a good band none the less.
 
JR said:
:goof: Dude that title will go to FAMU every year. End of discussion. And as far as SWAC bands go.........balanced sound usually falls with PV. Alot of that has to do with instrumentation.
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Yeah, but FAMU can only play one style of music. I think if you are balanced, you should be able to play anything. I thought everyone said that that boring azz Norfolk State band had the best balance. A&T normally sounds good too in the stands but I would rather watch grass grow before sitting through a NSU or A&T halftime show (except for the A&T twirlers...the best auxilary in HBCU land (until they try to dance).
 
Tigerpride said:
Yeah, but FAMU can only play one style of music. I think if you are balanced, you should be able to play anything. I thought everyone said that that boring azz Norfolk State band had the best balance. A&T normally sounds good too in the stands but I would rather watch grass grow before sitting through a NSU or A&T halftime show (except for the A&T twirlers...the best auxilary in HBCU land (until they try to dance).
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TP...you're talking repetoire balance...as in the different types of music. In that case...most folks will use the word "diverse".

The subject is on instrumentation and musical presentation. Meaning, can all the voices (instruments) in the song be heard, that are intended to be heard like the director wants.


To me...the most balanced band in the SWAC, despite preferential style, is SU. On and off the field you can hear every instrument and it's parts...even during the drill. Every other band falls short of that either on the field or in the stands...and, sometimes both.


:lol: ...when will JSt. and it's fans learn that that "most musical" and "most balanced" crap went out the window after '99? And, then, you put up clips of JSt. going against SU...when everyone (except Boom fan) knows they change it up SU week.

Ain't a mu'fugg'n thing balanced about JSt. now days. Have you heard songs like "Poison"...."Cold Hearted"..."Try Again" :vomit: ?


:)
 
O'Bladerunner said:
TP...you're talking repetoire balance...as in the different types of music. In that case...most folks will use the word "diverse".

The subject is on instrumentation and musical presentation. Meaning, can all the voices (instruments) in the song be heard, that are intended to be heard like the director wants.


To me...the most balanced band in the SWAC, despite preferential style, is SU. On and off the field you can hear every instrument and it's parts...even during the drill. Every other band falls short of that either on the field or in the stands...and, sometimes both.


:lol: ...when will JSt. and it's fans learn that that "most musical" and "most balanced" crap went out the window after '99? And, then, you put up clips of JSt. going against SU...when everyone (except Boom fan) knows they change it up SU week.

Ain't a mu'fugg'n thing balanced about JSt. now days. Have you heard songs like "Poison"...."Cold Hearted"..."Try Again" :vomit: ?


:)
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Man, the conversation was going well and we were keepin it real until this ridiculous post. The highligted part is funny as hades.
Even your own man JR didn't bother to mention su in his post as being the most balanced.
All I hear when su's playin are loud horns, drowning out all the other sounds that are SUPPOSED to be heard. su's wind instruments are non existent as far as sound is concerned simply because the horns drown them out time and time again.

Oblade, get real and come with somethin better than that.
J-State may not be the most balanced after all, but I do know that they're way more balanced than su's band and as you said earlier, have a more diverse sound as well.
 
JayRob said:
Man, the conversation was going well and we were keepin it real until this ridiculous post. The highligted part is funny as hades.
Even your own man JR didn't bother to mention su in his post as being the most balanced.
All I hear when su's playin are loud horns, drowning out all the other sounds that are SUPPOSED to be heard. su's wind instruments are non existent as far as sound is concerned simply because the horns drown them out time and time again.

Oblade, get real and come with somethin better than that.
J-State may not be the most balanced after all, but I do know that they're way more balanced than su's band and as you said earlier, have a more diverse sound as well.
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First off....:rolleyes:

Second....
To me...the most balanced band in the SWAC, despite preferential style, is SU.
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Now, wth does JR have to do with my opinion/interpertation of who's the most balanced?

You must have a different concept of what balance is, then. Show me a clip where Im lying about all the parts being heard from SU on and off the field. Maybe, my ears are tuned to that SU style...but, I can fa'da*n sho' hear everything that's written, whether everyone is facing the crowd in the stands...or, facing endzone to endzone on a drill (which you sure as he!! can't say the same about JSt).

And, that "you can't hear the woodwinds" arguement is weak as he!!. Cuz, first...SU arrangers don't arrange for a band with 100 w/w...they write for an All-Brass band. So, of course, a good number of songs the w/w's aren't dominant. Heck, I can make a case that NO BAND's woodwinds can be heard, unless you're right up under the band....not even the ever-so balanced JSt.


:)
 
O'Bladerunner said:
...You must have a different concept of what balance is, then. Show me a clip where Im lying about all the parts being heard from SU on and off the field. Maybe, my ears are tuned to that SU style...but, I can fa'da*n sho' hear everything that's written, whether everyone is facing the crowd in the stands...or, facing endzone to endzone on a drill (which you sure as he!! can't say the same about JSt).
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Pick any clip you want of the Jags playing "Can You Feel It"

O'Bladerunner said:
...And, that "you can't hear the woodwinds" arguement is weak as he!!. Cuz, first...SU arrangers don't arrange for a band with 100 w/w...they write for an All-Brass band. So, of course, a good number of songs the w/w's aren't dominant. Heck, I can make a case that NO BAND's woodwinds can be heard, unless you're right up under the band....not even the ever-so balanced JSt.
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SU is great at what they do. Nope, the presentations that I have heard lately of the Jags have not been balanced between the brass, woodwind, and percussion. The instrumentation chosen by SU has dictated that already. It is part of the mystique of the Jags. It is not that they are not capable. On the contrary; there are fine musicians there and the balance is achieved from time to time. However, it is certainly not their signature. To my chagrin, there has been a trend of several of the other bands - including my Boom - to try to emulate the Jags. That is a categorical mistake without modeling the instrumentation of the Jags.

And the beat goes on...
 
dacontinent said:
Pick any clip you want of the Jags playing "Can You Feel It"



SU is great at what they do. Nope, the presentations that I have heard lately of the Jags have not been balanced between the brass, woodwind, and percussion. The instrumentation chosen by SU has dictated that already. It is part of the mystique of the Jags. It is not that they are not capable. On the contrary; there are fine musicians there and the balance is achieved from time to time. However, it is certainly not their signature. To my chagrin, there has been a trend of several of the other bands - including my Boom - to try to emulate the Jags. That is a categorical mistake without modeling the instrumentation of the Jags.

And the beat goes on...
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Emulate su in what? Please be more specific.
 
dacontinent said:
Pick any clip you want of the Jags playing "Can You Feel It"



SU is great at what they do. Nope, the presentations that I have heard lately of the Jags have not been balanced between the brass, woodwind, and percussion. The instrumentation chosen by SU has dictated that already. It is part of the mystique of the Jags. It is not that they are not capable. On the contrary; there are fine musicians there and the balance is achieved from time to time. However, it is certainly not their signature. To my chagrin, there has been a trend of several of the other bands - including my Boom - to try to emulate the Jags.That is a categorical mistake without modeling the instrumentation of the Jags.

And the beat goes on...
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:nod: The "Big Band Sound" is what I miss the most when I hear a Liddell directed "Sonic Boom".
 
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