The James Bell Years LOL


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i remember hearing about Robert Hughes being fired. i told my father that a guy that goes 7-4 three straight years deserves to keep his job. My father said that J-State fans deserve and want better... Wow ten years after the fact we were both right. Most JSU fans I think would love to have Hughes back because he is one of their own. But then again when Culberson hired bell from Houston Chavez High school I knew it was gonna be trouble. So someone give me some insight besides the obvious(losing) as to what went wrong during the Bell years...
 
emptyright said:
i remember hearing about Robert Hughes being fired. i told my father that a guy that goes 7-4 three straight years deserves to keep his job. My father said that J-State fans deserve and want better... Wow ten years after the fact we were both right. Most JSU fans I think would love to have Hughes back because he is one of their own. But then again when Culberson hired bell from Houston Chavez High school I knew it was gonna be trouble. So someone give me some insight besides the obvious(losing) as to what went wrong during the Bell years...
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Man, you don't even want to get these dudes started on Bell.
 



emptyright said:
i remember hearing about Robert Hughes being fired. i told my father that a guy that goes 7-4 three straight years deserves to keep his job. My father said that J-State fans deserve and want better... Wow ten years after the fact we were both right. Most JSU fans I think would love to have Hughes back because he is one of their own. But then again when Culberson hired bell from Houston Chavez High school I knew it was gonna be trouble. So someone give me some insight besides the obvious(losing) as to what went wrong during the Bell years...
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I covered JSU football for the Blue and White Flash student newspaper during the Bell Error. The biggest problem I saw was that he totally changed the offense his first season even though he had a quarterback in Robert Kent who had put up some great passing numbers during his career with the likes of Tim Manning and others at WR.

Bell wanted to run the football and play defense, but the offense did not feature athletes that could do that. The Tigers paid for it.

After that, Bell was really stubborn when it came to his offensive philosophy when it came to making adjustments and adapting to the strengths of his players. And that really did not sit well with many of the players. I remember talking to several players on the team off the record and they thought Bell was a joke. They respected him as a man, but not as a coach during that time.

Then Bell goes with Steve Haren, a white JUCO transfer out of Cali to run the offense after Kent graduates. Not a good decision. He could not move well in the pocket and had a horrible arm. Haren was not a FCS quarterback at all.

Nice guy, but bad at football.

I could go on, but I tried to put those years behind me.
 
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kendrick said:
I covered JSU football for the Blue and White Flash student newspaper during the Bell Error. The biggest problem I saw was that he totally changed the offense his first season even though he had a quarterback in Robert Kent who had put up some great passing numbers during his year with the likes of Tim Manning and others at WR.

Bell wanted to run the football and play defense, but the offense did not feature athletes that could do that. The Tigers paid for it.

After that, Bell was really stubborn when it came to his offensive philosophy when it came to making adjustments and adapting to the strengths of his players. And that really did not sit well with many of the players. I remember talking to several players on the team off the record and they thought Bell was a joke. They respected him as a man, but not as a coach during that time.

Then Bell goes with Steve Haren, a white JUCO transfer out of Cali to run the offense after Kent graduates. Not a good decision. He could not move well in the pocket and had a horrible arm. Haren was not a FCS quarterback at all.

Nice guy, but bad at football.

I could go on, but I tried to put those years behind me.
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Please go on. I did notice that it was a complete offensive change. i was tuning in to BET to see Superman Kent. But I got a lot of tarnaka Counsler instead. Robert Kent. WOW
 
emptyright said:
i remember hearing about Robert Hughes being fired. i told my father that a guy that goes 7-4 three straight years deserves to keep his job. My father said that J-State fans deserve and want better... Wow ten years after the fact we were both right. Most JSU fans I think would love to have Hughes back because he is one of their own. But then again when Culberson hired bell from Houston Chavez High school I knew it was gonna be trouble. So someone give me some insight besides the obvious(losing) as to what went wrong during the Bell years...
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emptyright said:
Please go on. I did notice that it was a complete offensive change. i was tuning in to BET to see Superman Kent. But I got a lot of tarnaka Counsler instead. Robert Kent. WOW
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"Pulls up his chair, with a 2 liter soda and a grocery bag full of popcorn"

This is gonna be a good one. Proceed.

( I can't wait till yall get to the part where he called all of yall stupid)
 
Everything that dude said who wrote for school paper.

Bell has to be the swac worst coach in quite some time. When u think of the tradition filled program in which he took over and how he reduced a huge fan base to 2k folks at a jsu home game then he may be the worst.
 
emptyright said:
i remember hearing about Robert Hughes being fired. i told my father that a guy that goes 7-4 three straight years deserves to keep his job. My father said that J-State fans deserve and want better.
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Your dad is right. 7-4 won't get it at JSU. That's why Comegy is feeling the fire now.........and he even won a SWAC Championship.
 
Well it sure looks like you all will lose the first 4 games on your schedule this year. If that is the case, the best you all can do is 7-4 best case scenario. Good thing you all haven't scheduled PV! :lol: :emlaugh:
 
JROCK said:
Well it sure looks like you all will lose the first 4 games on your schedule this year. If that is the case, the best you all can do is 7-4 best case scenario. Good thing you all haven't scheduled PV! :lol: :emlaugh:
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Then Comegy will be kicked to the curb, too. Too bad yall can't say the same for Pete. No matter how much the program continues to fall he's still gonna be there with his 200K guaranteed.

BTW, say what's up to Spivery for me! :lol:
 
kendrick said:
The biggest problem I saw was that he totally changed the offense his first season even though he had a quarterback in Robert Kent who had put up some great passing numbers during his career with the likes of Tim Manning and others at WR.
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sorry, but Thumbs Story should've been the first WR mentioned.
:tup: :D



Lewis said:
( I can't wait till yall get to the part where he called all of yall stupid)
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ROTF!
:lmao::lmao:
 



Man, looking at all these topics and threads and seeing how folks are rallying around us makes me feel proud. It really feels good being the "elite". :D
 
JROCK said:
Well it sure looks like you all will lose the first 4 games on your schedule this year. If that is the case, the best you all can do is 7-4 best case scenario. Good thing you all haven't scheduled PV! :lol: :emlaugh:
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Right.
As long as we 1-4 after the first 4 and your arse is the loss, everything is good.:lol:
I doubt we be anything less than 3-1 but ya'll can have the wishfull negative JSU dreams.
It would not be football season if the odds were anything other than 9 SWAC school's against JSU.
TIGERSs live in solitude.
WE LIKE IT THAT WAY. :lol:

Ya'll just try and show a little home training and not leave garbage stacked ON THE SIDE of the garbage bins when you come to Jackson with HAT IN HAND.
Never seen a fan base that can't hit a big arse garbage can. :lol:
 
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Blacknbengal said:
Man, looking at all these topics and threads and seeing how folks are rallying around us makes me feel proud. It really feels good being the "elite". :D
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BB.:lol:
This SWAC would close down if we said F-it.
These fool's would not have anything to talk about. :lol:
 
:shame::shame: I still have many nightmares about the bell error. As a member of Bell's original signing class, I must say that those were some of the darkest days of my life. We were booed by our own fans relentlessly. I was hit a Gatorade bottle walking out the Superdome in 2004. :smh:

Bell has a good defensive mind and he can draw up ways to defend anything you throw at him. He had two major downfalls.

1. Stubbornness- He refused to let anyone have a say-so in the game plan. His first staff was pretty good and Leon Perry is one the best coaches that I have ever played for. Him and Bell would argue over calls on the sideline, hence we always got the play in late. He looked down on the SWAC as a conference and didn’t have respect for anyone. I remember getting a delay of game the 2005 SHC that put TSU in field goal range because he wouldn’t release the defense in time. That is what lost the game.
2. Recruiting- In 2003 and 2004, we had decent teams that should have been competitive. We always found a way to lose it the game in the end. By 2005, we just sucked. We all knew we sucked and no one tried to pretend any different. Steve Haren is my homeboy and all but he couldn’t throw a rock down field. When Comegy got here in spring 2006, we had around 70 players from the bell error. Only 30 of us came back for two-a-days.
 
pops,
You're cool with me and I don't mean to but......


jsupop33 said:
:shame::shame: I still have many nightmares about the bell error. As a member of Bell's original signing class, I must say that those were some of the darkest days of my life. We were booed by our own fans relentlessly. I was hit a Gatorade bottle walking out the Superdome in 2004. :smh:
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that's funny as L!
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
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hence we always got the play in late.
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I shole remember that. As I recall, I even wrote about it in one of my Random Thoughts. Yall looked totally disorganized. Seriously.
 
I guess we can discuss the Ron Dickerson and Steve Wilson eras as well, since we're bringing up old coaches and all.
 
Pops, I'm sorry but I was there when you were hit with that bottle. I saw the whole thing and it was funny. lol.


jsupop33 said:
:shame::shame: I still have many nightmares about the bell error. As a member of Bell's original signing class, I must say that those were some of the darkest days of my life. We were booed by our own fans relentlessly. I was hit a Gatorade bottle walking out the Superdome in 2004. :smh:

Bell has a good defensive mind and he can draw up ways to defend anything you throw at him. He had two major downfalls.

1. Stubbornness- He refused to let anyone have a say-so in the game plan. His first staff was pretty good and Leon Perry is one the best coaches that I have ever played for. Him and Bell would argue over calls on the sideline, hence we always got the play in late. He looked down on the SWAC as a conference and didn’t have respect for anyone. I remember getting a delay of game the 2005 SHC that put TSU in field goal range because he wouldn’t release the defense in time. That is what lost the game.
2. Recruiting- In 2003 and 2004, we had decent teams that should have been competitive. We always found a way to lose it the game in the end. By 2005, we just sucked. We all knew we sucked and no one tried to pretend any different. Steve Haren is my homeboy and all but he couldn’t throw a rock down field. When Comegy got here in spring 2006, we had around 70 players from the bell error. Only 30 of us came back for two-a-days.
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I am still waiting for yall to get to the part where he call all of you JSU faithful stupid.
 
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