That Gott Dayum Trent Lott!


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Originally posted by JSUII
Makaho Bedrock,

I still stick by my comment that Trent Lott is a "racist. " How he aquired the land for JSU doesn't mean a hill of a bean to me. JSU or some of our ancestors probably owned the land once upon a time anyway. He didn't do us any favors by aquiring that land. I am sick and tired of some blacks thinking that because ole good boy Trent did something decent for a change that makes him okay to say whatever he wants to say. I am sure Trent did not not do anything for JSU out of the goodness of his heart. I grant you he is getting something in return for his favor.
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Dude, Jackson State University, as well as EVERY other HBCU in the state of MS came to be, because RACIST white men did not want you or I to attend Ole Miss or Mississippi State. I don't think there were some rich brothers back then that donated all of that land to Alcorn, I don't think there were very many blacks living in the Millsaps college area (where JSU was origionally located) that gave their land to found JSU).

It was all done by RACIST white men that said, "Hey, I don't want these Darkies going to school with my daughter, but they are free now and are entitled to educate themselves and make their own way." I don't think it matters what their intent was or if it was out of the "Goodness of their Hearts", but you and I both have a degree from that institution as a result.

The way you talk, you would rather take an azzwhuppin from Bennie Thompson than a Handshake from Trent Lott.

I don't care of Trent Lott drank Mint Juleps with Nathan Bedford Forrest,....... if he want's to give something to JSU then I'm all for it.
 
Glad we can talk about "differences" without being called stupid, ignant,

Originally posted by Makaho Bedrock


Mabye some of my experiences can shed a little light on this...

I think those double standards stem from most of us failing to see the other persons side of the story. I remember an incident while I was a Battery Commander at Ft. Bliss, TX.

A group of my black soldiers had started complaing about either their roomates or other soldiers having confederate flags on their walls. I researched the Regulations and Ft. Bliss policy on it and only pornographic material, klan related, swastikas and other deragatory items could not be placed on the walls.
So, as per their constitutional rights they got to keep them up.

Most of the black and hispanic soldiers were outraged and brought their complaints to the Brigade and ultimately the Post level. Prior to this I had reminded them that, If you come out and express disdain for something you consider racist as a minority, there will be counter disdain for something they consider racist as the majority....this fell upon deaf ears of course.

So to make a long story short, the commanding General of Ft. Bliss catered to the lowest common denominator and made it post policy that the only flags to be displayed on th walls were to be the U.S. Flag. So all the bothers were upset that they had to take down thier African, Jamacian or Hatian flags and the Hispanics had to take down their Cuban, Puerto Rican and Mexican flags along with the Stars and Bars of the Confederacy.

Remember for everthing you think is racist about a comment or situation, the same can be said of you. I for one can't even pick up a rock for fear of breaking a glass house, but I do have the ability to ask for forgiveness and be sincere about it. So I can afford the same courtesy to others.




As far as the church scenario goes....

If you or I answer that question, we will probably reach the top of the pyramid in Maslow's theory.
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Exactly what I teach my students everyday...you have to staunchly and zealously support your position, while still respecting the other side's right to staunchly and zealously support their position.

That flag gained more importance when the issue was made; instead they should have posted the National Black Panther Party or the beloved RED, BLACK and GREEN flag, or the NOI flag. There are many flags and symbols of pride that would have countered the Confederate flag.

I agree with you and I am a pro-choice, Pro Bono attorney, Federalist, registered Democrat! OH MY! :eek:
 

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Originally posted by Makaho Bedrock


Dude, Jackson State University, as well as EVERY other HBCU in the state of MS came to be, because RACIST white men did not want you or I to attend Ole Miss or Mississippi State. I don't think there were some rich brothers back then that donated all of that land to Alcorn, I don't think there were very many blacks living in the Millsaps college area (where JSU was origionally located) that gave their land to found JSU).


The way you talk, you would rather take an azzwhuppin from Bennie Thompson than a Handshake from Trent Lott.

I don't care of Trent Lott drank Mint Juleps with Nathan Bedford Forrest,....... if he want's to give something to JSU then I'm all for it.
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Tell'im again homeboy...He ain't hear ya!!!!!:tup:
 
First of all, All-State was looking to unload the building for a tax-break, and JSU happened to be the logical choice. So you can't put that one in Trent's Favor.

Second, the Nissan plant is almost ignoring JSU which is about 20 minutes away to partner with MSU.

Third, Anyone who tries to justify the statements made by Trent Lott is at best naive. It doesn't take a genius to see what happened.

I'm sure Trent Lott has done a few favors here and there, but what has he really done for blacks in the state? You can't compare him to Bennie Thompson, because he's the Majority Leader. He's been in the leadership since 1994. That Nissan project was the first major on that's been brought into the Jackson area during his entire tenure. And that wasn't just his doing. Gov. Musgrove and others played major roles in that as well. Even if you're a Republican, you're going to be hard-pressed to show how blacks in this state have benefitted substantially during Lott's tenure.

And don't give me that "he doesn't help cause we vote Democrat" line either. As Senator, his job is to represent the entire state, whoever it is.
 
Originally posted by Kool-Aid2K1
First of all, All-State was looking to unload the building for a tax-break, and JSU happened to be the logical choice. So you can't put that one in Trent's Favor.
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Lemme throw this one out there---------------->TMade works for Allstate.....

And this is from the Feb. 27, 2001 Allstate annoucement....

Jackson State University, Allstate unveil $20 million e-Center development

The JSU e-Center is to be located in the former Allstate Sunbelt Support Center in Jackson.

On February 23, Jackson State University (JSU) announced plans to create a major technology research and incubation center in Mississippi, a move made possible by a $17 million donation to the university by Allstate.

The JSU e-Center is to be located in the former Allstate Sunbelt Support Center in Jackson. The 192,600-square-foot facility will be used not only for academic purposes, but also as an incubator for technology-based businesses moving into Mississippi. JSU has created the Mississippi e-Center Foundation, a non-profit organization, which will own the facility and lease most of it to JSU for academic purposes. The balance will be leased to technology-related businesses leveraging the JSU technology base. Allstate will transfer the facility, which is valued at more than $20 million, to the Foundation in exchange for $3 million. The gift represents the largest single donation to any of Mississippi?s ?Historically Black Colleges.?

?We see great potential for Mississippi to become a center for technological development,? said Ron Corbin, Southern region field vice president. ?The development of the e-Center should help the city of Jackson as well as the state of Mississippi make great economic strides.?

?We are looking forward to an ongoing partnership with Jackson State,? added Chairman, President and CEO Ed Liddy. ?In addition to the donation of the facility to the university, Allstate will work with JSU leadership to find partnership opportunities in the areas of student recruitment and curriculum development.?

Institutionally, JSU will utilize the e-Center for teaching, teacher training, research and enhanced student learning. The e-Center will also become a ?technology incubator? to help attract and launch technology-based companies in Mississippi. The e-Center is scheduled to open in late spring 2001.

And guess who sits on the Mississippi e-Center Foundation Board? Do I even need to say the T-word?

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OK........now explain how Trent Lott was soley responsible for us getting the building.

BTW, I'm in Oxford right now, and for every 1 "favor"(it's what he's supposed to be doing anyway) he might have done for JSU, I can see 100 on Ole Miss's campus.
 
Makaho Bedrock,

First of all, I am female. I don't believe in anyone bashing any race of people unnecessarily. Yes, I like Bennie Thompson and I am glad he is a voice for Mississippi. I don't care for Trent Lott. Like I stated earlier, he is a good politician. No, white people cannot say anything they want to in public about black people because we had to endure that for years before we had strong black leaders to stand up and say we are not going to deal with the BS anymore. Bennie Thompson spoke at my son's graduation at (JSU in "95.") He was on target about the way things were in Mississippi and the need for strong black leadership in that State. He didn't bash white people, he told the truth. I am not trying to hold us back. I want to see every person in this country succeed and especially black people. But I also have to remember that I am still black, and as a black person living in this country I refuse to forget the past because it has a way of repeating itself.
 
Originally posted by Makaho Bedrock

As far as the church scenario goes....

If you or I answer that question, we will probably reach the top of the pyramid in Maslow's theory.
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Regarding the flag story, let me say this about the Stars and Bars. It belongs in museums and other historical places. I know some people who understand the history, and use it as such. However, there are idiots who influence popular thought with their behaviour when they associate with it. Would I fly it? No, but I will give a person who does the benefit of the doubt regarding it until they show that they DON'T know Southern History.

As far as your comment regarding the church scenario:

Yeah, you right! :D
 
Originally posted by sophandros


Regarding the flag story, let me say this about the Stars and Bars. It belongs in museums and other historical places. I know some people who understand the history, and use it as such. However, there are idiots who influence popular thought with their behaviour when they associate with it. Would I fly it? No, but I will give a person who does the benefit of the doubt regarding it until they show that they DON'T know Southern History.

As far as your comment regarding the church scenario:

Yeah, you right! :D
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the flag in question is not the Confederate States flag, it's the battle flag. There is a difference and some people don't know the history behind it.
 
Yanno, I don't know why I even bother sometimes...

But mabye if I quote the Matrix then I may get some of you to at least agree to disagree....
You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and you believe whatever you want to believe."
"You take the red pill and the story begins and you will see how deep the rabbit hole goes...."
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It is obvious that some of you took the Blue Pill and are still stuck in the Matrix

Trent Lott could eat a bail of barbed wire and isht a billion dollars worth of gold coins and most of you would still not be impressed.

The reason why MSU is partnered with Nissan instead of JSU is because of the quality/facilities of their engineering program, and JSU did not do anything to help itself facilitate any relationship.

Mayor Harvey Johnson sure as hell did nothing to make Nissan welcome, he even ran off Worldcom.

By the way, the Mississippi black caucus who are mostly JSU grads, did more bickering and infighting instead of building bridges for their alma mater. So peddle those peanuts someplace else.

And as far as Bennie Thompson goes, could someone explain how a man can go from being on the Hinds county board of supervisors making 35,000.00 a year and having net assets worth 100,000 to taking Mike Espy's place in congress and now being worth over 7 Million dollars in an 8 year time....

Hmmm, let's see this man turned 135,000.00 into 7 million dollars in less than a Decade by having a job that serves the poorest constituents in Mississippi and the 4th poorest in the nation and he can do abosoloutely nothing but get re-elected on broken campaign promises because he makes race and issue everytime.

He sure as hell can develop capital for himself instead of the Mississippi Delta, but I can't blame him these idiots here keep re-electing him.

I used to be active in the NAACP here, I say used to be for a reason....I saw Bennie Thompson in a room full of so called black leaders who were discussing the G.O.T.V. process make one of the most asinine and degrading statements I have ever heard about us as a people....

This c**n said, and I quote "If you want to make sure Black Folks show up at the polls, just tell them that the Republicans are gonna take their "check" !"

No Merit !!
No Facts !!
No Substance !!

Just rhetorical B.S !! And a lot of people here in MS line up to eat a yard of it !!

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad, but Bennie's Scenario reminds me of the Big Black Churches here in Jackson that make you show your W-2 and make out your tithe accordingly. They all have pastors that drive Lexus' and Benzes while the majority of thier congregation is waiting on the Bus.

Give me a asinine racist remark over that B.S. anyday.
 
Originally posted by Makaho Bedrock

By the way, the Mississippi black caucus who are mostly JSU grads, did more bickering and infighting instead of building bridges for their alma mater. So peddle those peanuts someplace else.
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They were too busy trying to help the Archie family fight the state over 'imminent domain' over their 17 acres, needing for the Nissan plant...

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So the Nissan folks got smart, and redesigned the road around their property, so now they don't get isht :shame:
 
Originally posted by JSUII
I still stick by my comment that Trent Lott is a "racist. " How he aquired the land for JSU doesn't mean a hill of a bean to me. JSU or some of our ancestors probably owned the land once upon a time anyway. He didn't do us any favors by aquiring that land. I am sick and tired of some blacks thinking that because ole good boy Trent did something decent for a change that makes him okay to say whatever he wants to say. I am sure Trent did not not do anything for JSU out of the goodness of his heart. I grant you he is getting something in return for his favor.
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Preach on sista!!!!!!!!!
 
My take is that if you never experience what Lott meant then you can forgive. I understand the man and throughout my employment with the federal goverment, there were many who lived it daily supervisors and employees) the very same thing that he stated. nothing has changed, therefore no apology is good enough because whites don't consider blacks or include blacks in anything they do or think. Therefore his statement stands with no compromise. The man should be thrown out of the Senate in disgrace. You don't make these kinds of comments ever. And talking about going to war with Sadaam, what could he be thinking?
 
Originally posted by Kool-Aid2K1
OK........now explain how Trent Lott was soley responsible for us getting the building.

BTW, I'm in Oxford right now, and for every 1 "favor"(it's what he's supposed to be doing anyway) he might have done for JSU, I can see 100 on Ole Miss's campus.
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OK Kool-Aid, I don't remember me (or Makaho) saying that Trent Lott was solely resposible for JSU getting the building. But he was apart of the proces that resulted in JSU getting the building. The e-Center Foundation was created specifically for the prupose of trying to acquire the property. And maybe you wanna know how this all got started? I'll run it down in a abbreviated version.
The Raymond Road property where Allstate sits, was owned by a white family from Terry, who sold the property (along with the property where the Lodge Apts sit) to Fidelity Bank (then Deposit Guaranty, now AmSouth). The property was sold in 1951. The band then leased it to Allstate in 1954. Allstate then built the building. Allstate then bought the actual property after leasing it for 10 years and paying excise taxes. So Allstate owned the building lock, stock and barrel. Now Larry Choate, past presdent of Allstate has a Mississippi connection, and lobbyed for the building of the building back in the 60s. And current Allstate president Ed Liddy is good friends with retired Mississippi Supreme Court Judge (should I list his name??? NO) ************. And this retired judge has ties to Jackson and JSU. And Trent Lott has ties to both men. So the Foundation simply facilitated discussions about how to transfer the building.

So Lott was involved. And that's fine with me. He didn't try to garner any attention surrounding the donation (as best I can remember).
 

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Originally posted by MightyDog
My take is that if you never experience what Lott meant then you can forgive. I understand the man and throughout my employment with the federal goverment, there were many who lived it daily supervisors and employees) the very same thing that he stated. nothing has changed, therefore no apology is good enough because whites don't consider blacks or include blacks in anything they do or think. Therefore his statement stands with no compromise. The man should be thrown out of the Senate in disgrace. You don't make these kinds of comments ever. And talking about going to war with Sadaam, what could he be thinking?
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So let me get this straight, no matter what comments a man makes, be they racist, or construed as racist, asinine or construded as asinine, should not have any abosoloution or be forgiven if they apologize for making them?

If that is the case then you should not trust any White man or woman over 40 because they either lived in that era or were influenced by the rhetoric of that era. And why don't you go ahead and add everybody under 40 in there as well, because they read about the era too. :rolleyes:

This way of thinking is precisely why the City of Jackson is in the shape it is in today. Now that we are the majority, many blacks want to pay back the whites in Jackson for the transgressions of the past, and too many whites want to live off the laurels of it. By the way, more harm, ill will, degredation and evil has been done to me by people my own color than any white racist bigot, and I live in Mississippi, so according to comments you make on the smackboard, I should be an expert on the subject.

I guess Trent Lott's racist comments forced black men to break into my house in West Jackson 2 times in two years...

I guess Trent Lott's racist comments forced a black man to just last week attempt to break into my home, while I was there and fire 10 shots to deter him from breaking in....

I guess Trent Lott's racist comments forced a black man to steal my car in 2000 and use it in an armed robbery and leave it in Pearl, MS. burned up....

I guess Trent Lott's racist comments forced a black man to break not one but two of my car's windows to steal a leather Jacket, Road flares and a Flashlight to buy crack......

Yeah, I can see how Trent Lott's comments have put a damper on my life MD....


The real problem is people holding on to oudated hate instead of addressing the real problems in our community. But then again, it's easier to bash Trent Lott's asinine comments instead of keeping Junebug out of jail.

BTW, if the Liberal right would allow us to drill for oil in Alaska then we might not be so dependent on Mid East Oil and not kick off in Saddam's arse. Or here's another suggestion, tell all the people you know to use the bus, subway, and carpool instead of being such oil gluttons....

BTW, how many miles to the gallon does your car get ???
 
You will be surprised the amount of pressure on Black political leaders and administrators in this day and age. Every word you say and every move you make is critical to your survival as a leader.

Bennie makes those kinds of statements because those are the kinds of things that the majority of people who vote for him want to hear. I ran for the state legislature in a majority black district in Mississippi and I can tell you about the kinda of things that citizens want to hear to be comforted by their leadership. In all African-american political contest, your every word is scrutinized to give an angle to brand you as being detrimental to the race. Being a republican in the Black community is almost considered to be worse than being Judas. The words sell-out and uncle tom has more weight in our community than they should and any idea that strays from the norm gets you one or both of these labels.

Bennie knows his audience and his core group: the poor, impoverished, under-educated, and abused African-american men and women of the Mississippi delta and he plays to their emotions and he will be in that office forever, unless he decides to do something different, at which point, he will handpick his successor who will have to be a Bennie clone to stay there.
 
Originally posted by Diesel

Bennie knows his audience and his core group: the poor, impoverished, under-educated, and abused African-american men and women of the Mississippi delta and he plays to their emotions and he will be in that office forever, unless he decides to do something different, at which point, he will handpick his successor who will have to be a Bennie clone to stay there.
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I think Bennie is very beatable. The next election will be in a presidential year with an extremely high turn out. A virtually unknown, unfinanced, unqualified Black Republican candidate Clinton LeSeuer got 44 percent of the vote. That tells me a halfway decent candidate with some finance will beat Bennie in a Presidential year. Face it, Clinton LeSeuer was a weak candidate, I voted for him just because he was the lesser of two evils.
 
MB, power is the name of this game. Yes, I don't trust them and I told many in power positions to their face that they cannot be trusted. Their point has been if you won't do it I can always find another black to do it. As long as we have people we are going to be faced with what is in it for me. I don't believe anyone gave black people anything, it is not theirs to give. We are Americans and these people are spending public money and getting rich just like the Thompson you mentioned.

You quoted some historical facts, but there is one that is real. Progress by blacks as a race is constantly destroyed. From the 1700s to 2002. Not because we don't know but because the power brokers know how to get it done. You an Army man, do you recall when HBCUs were sending too many blacks to the Army and the Army was becoming an army of minorities. Well guess who did the study to help put down this trend. Professors from Texas A&M. I questioned the study and I was told we don't care what black folks think or you we are going to get the job done. Until this day, I didn't know the role of Texas A&M, but when I saw the school being recommended for the Research Center on Home Security and Helms name came up, I begin to wonder about a lot of things. Why do I mention this: the reason is what if the Armed forces had become a force of minorities. Do I need to go deeper into this, no I do not because you understand real power. There are no black Senators, but we had some before they started shooting blacks who turned out to vote in the 1890s. I am not saying that all whites are no good, but sure did want the whitehouse back for obvious reasons. In the Senate race in the boot, our president supported the Republican candidate because he said she would support his judicial agenda. Now how many folks understood what he meant. Progress made by blacks in our court system which is very little is being overturned by the supreme court, resulting in case law being removed from the books.

Based on what I know and have live through Trent should be run out of office. A snake is a snake and he will bite you. I don't and will not to label him as racist because people will debate this, but I can take what he said at face value and compute it. what the man said will continue to determine the future of my children, grandchilders and blacks for many years to come because he has set the tone for the nation.

I support asking him to step aside, because the position he holds is very powerful and will make difference. Affirmative action was not something that somebody gave black people, but it was something that black people died for.
 
Lott Remarks on Thurmond Echoed 1980 Words

Lott Remarks on Thurmond Echoed 1980 Words
Criticism Unabated Despite Apology for Comment on Former Dixiecrat's Presidential Bid


By Thomas B. Edsall and Brian Faler
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, December 11, 2002; Page A06


Twenty-two years ago, Trent Lott, then a House member from Mississippi, told a home state political gathering that if the country had elected segregationist candidate Strom Thurmond to the presidency "30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today." The phrasing is very similar to incoming Senate Majority Leader Lott's controversial remarks at a 100th birthday party for Thurmond last week.

The Jackson Clarion-Ledger reported Lott's earlier comments in a Nov. 3, 1980, report about a rally for the presidential campaign of Ronald Reagan in downtown Jackson at which Thurmond was the keynote speaker.

Thurmond, according to the story, told the gathering of 1,000 people that the country "cannot stand four more years of [President] Jimmy Carter. . . . We've got to balance the budget. Jimmy Carter won't do it, but Ronald Reagan will do it."

Then Thurmond declared: "[We] want that federal government to keep their filthy hands off the rights of the states." For many supporters and opponents of civil rights, the phrase "state's rights" stood for the right of states to reject federal civil rights legislation.

After Thurmond spoke, Lott told the group: "You know, if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."

Thurmond ran as the Dixiecrat candidate for president in 1948 on a platform calling for the continuation of segregation in the South.

A spokesman for Lott defended the 1980 remarks: "Clearly, Senator Lott was expressing his support for Ronald Reagan's policies of smaller government and fiscal responsibility."

Lott supporters cited a 1997 article in the Charlotte Observer about the integration of the University of Mississippi when Lott was a student cheerleader there. "On Sunday night, [black student James] Meredith came to campus," the paper reported. "A mob, including many nonstudents, bombarded marshals with bricks and bottles. Student leaders -- including Trent Lott, now U.S. Senate majority leader -- tried to discourage violence, but a riot broke out."

Last week, Lott provoked controversy when he declared at the Thurmond birthday celebration: "I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years."

Criticism of Lott grew yesterday despite his apology for last week's comments. The Congressional Black Caucus, the new Democratic House leader and the conservative editorial page of the Wall Street Journal were among those rebuking Lott.

"I'm very concerned and very upset that anybody that would issue such a statement would be in the leadership of this nation or the Senate," said Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.), the newly elected chairman of the black caucus. "We're still trying to resolve exactly what action we will take."

Retiring Rep. J.C. Watts (R-Okla.), the only black Republican in the House, defended Lott and attacked his critics. "We should not trivialize the issue of race for political gain," he said.

The Wall Street Journal, however, declared: "Lott played right into the hands of opponents who are eager to paint the Republican Party's Southern ascendance as nothing more than old-fashioned bigotry." David Frum, writing on the Web site of the conservative National Review, said: "Lott's unwise words have reduced the ability of all Republicans to speak frankly about race and racial problems."

Lott issued a statement Monday night saying, "A poor choice of words conveyed to some the impression that I embraced the discarded policies of the past. Nothing could be further from the truth, and I apologize to anyone who was offended by my statement."

But several elected officials remained unsatisfied yesterday. "He can apologize all he wants," said incoming House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). "It doesn't remove the sentiment that escaped his mouth that day."

Some Democrats, meanwhile, criticized fellow party members who had declined to denounce Lott earlier. Noting that Senate Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) last week said he accepted Lott's private explanation that he wasn't praising racial segregation, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) said yesterday: "The Democratic leadership must show its African American constituents that they really do care. . . . And I think Daschle didn't do that."

Daschle issued a statement yesterday, saying, "Regardless of how [Lott] intended his statement to be interpreted, it was wrong to say, and I strongly disagree with it."


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Council of Conservative Citizens

Lott came under fire for a 1992 address in Greenwood to the Council of Conservative Citizens, a successor of the white Citizens' Council of the 1960s. "The people in this room stand for the right principles and the right philosophy," he said then.
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Dec 10, 2002
 
O.K., I think I need to explain something one more time....

I am no fan of Strom Thurman...
I am no apologist for Trentt Lott...

But why is it that we constantly get so flustered and unforgiving in this country when we hear some white man utter a perceived racist or asinine remark. Mofos here in Jackson are raising hell and threating to protest, when just a couple of weeks ago a Black woman was shot in the neck by a car jacker in front of her 3 year old son, she drove about 100 feet veered into a ditch and ultimately bleed to death while listening to her child screaming...Guess what color the gunman was ??? I'll give you a hint, the gunman and Trent Lott were not the same color.

So my question is, where is the outrage ???
Where are the so called black leaders denouncing such an abomination ???
I'll tell you where they are, they are at NAACP headquarters planning what they are gonna do about Trent Lott.

Man, if the powers that be in the black community can't parlay this to their advantage then they are fools. Since Trent Lott apologized for his statements then to a certain degree that is an admission of guilt. Every HBCU president in MS should be calling his office to see if they can get another 20 million dollar facility. Politics are all about perception and manipulation of the press, work that to your advantage and see what you can get out of Lott. Because guess what, he aint resigning, he is gonna get re-elected, he aint going nowhere !!! So why not milk his azz.

Name one industry in the country that we own....
We don't even have B.E.T. anymore...

There are a few things that we have to come to grips with in this country.

1. We are 12% of this nations total polulation. We get fooled because we live in cities like Jackson, Birmingham, Atlanta, and New Orleans. As a result, we just don't have the infrastruture to support our own endeavors without having to rely on the majority. And only 25% of our population votes, so we have a whopping national voting power of 4%....that is Sad.

2. We are not going to receive Reparations !!! It just amazes me how we are constantly trying to get sympathy and compensation from a former Slave Master when we don't even support our own businesses in our community.

3. Our act as America's favorite minority is slowly getting tired. The hispanic population is gradually increasing, go to any Grocery store or ATM and you will see instructions written in English and Spanish. So if we continue to polarize ourselves by looking like complainers and beggars, we will always be cast as such. Just look at the native American community...They have Casinos and we had B.E.T.
I don't think that the Native American chief here in MS said "I don't want anything from you Racist white men!!"

Like Taylor-Made said, our outdated attitudes have kept us (blacks) back more than any chains, laws, or Jim Crow ever did.....

WE need to start playing political and economical ball and start making our dollars have some sense instead of protesting and raising hell because some white man said the N word in a clubhouse washroom when he was 30. And for those of you that want to still protest and raise hell in regards to that, pleas leave your car windows up while you drive to the protest because I guarantee you that you will hear some young black kid in traffic blasting music from thier car stereo that will feature that same word at least 30 times. Or you can just listen to your own car radio and hear it "beeped" out.
 
Originally posted by Makaho Bedrock
O.K., I think I need to explain something one more time....

I am no fan of Strom Thurman...
I am no apologist for Trentt Lott...

But why is it that we constantly get so flustered and unforgiving in this country when we hear some white man utter a perceived racist or asinine remark. Mofos here in Jackson are raising hell and threating to protest, when just a couple of weeks ago a Black woman was shot in the neck by a car jacker in front of her 3 year old son, she drove about 100 feet veered into a ditch and ultimately bleed to death while listening to her child screaming...Guess what color the gunman was ??? I'll give you a hint, the gunman and Trent Lott were not the same color.

So my question is, where is the outrage ???
Where are the so called black leaders denouncing such an abomination ???
I'll tell you where they are, they are at NAACP headquarters planning what they are gonna do about Trent Lott.

Man, if the powers that be in the black community can't parlay this to their advantage then they are fools. Since Trent Lott apologized for his statements then to a certain degree that is an admission of guilt. Every HBCU president in MS should be calling his office to see if they can get another 20 million dollar facility. Politics are all about perception and manipulation of the press, work that to your advantage and see what you can get out of Lott. Because guess what, he aint resigning, he is gonna get re-elected, he aint going nowhere !!! So why not milk his azz.

Name one industry in the country that we own....
We don't even have B.E.T. anymore...

There are a few things that we come to grips with in this country.

1. We are 12% of this nations total polulation. We get fooled because we live in cities like Jackson, Birmingham, Atlanta, and New Orleans. As a result, we just don't have the infrastruture to support our own endeavors without having to rely on the majority. And only 25% of our population votes, so we have a whopping national voting power of 4%....that is Sad.

2. We are not going to receive Reparations !!! It just amazes me how we are constantly trying to get sympathy and compensation from a former Slave Master when we don't even support our own businesses in our community.

3. Our act as America's favorite minority is slowly getting tired. The hispanic population is gradually increasing, go to any Grocery store or ATM and you will see instructions written in English and Spanish. So if we continue to polarize ourselves by looking like complainers and beggars, we will always be cast as such. Just look at the native American community...They have Casinos and we had B.E.T.
I don't think that the Native American chief here in MS said "I don't want anything from you Racist white men!!"

Like Taylor-Made said, our outdated attitudes have kept us (blacks) back more than any chains, laws, or Jim Crow ever did.....

WE need to start playing political and economical ball and start making our dollars have some sense instead of protesting and raising hell because some white man said the N word in a clubhouse washroom when he was 30. And for those of you that want to still protest and raise hell in regards to that, pleas leave your car windows up while you drive to the protest because I guarantee you that you will hear some young black kid in traffic blasting music from thier car stereo that will feature that same word at least 30 times. Or you can just listen to your own car radio and hear it "beeped" out.
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Originally posted by Makaho Bedrock
O.K., I think I need to explain something one more time....

I am no fan of Strom Thurman...
I am no apologist for Trentt Lott...

But why is it that we constantly get so flustered and unforgiving in this country when we hear some white man utter a perceived racist or asinine remark. Mofos here in Jackson are raising hell and threating to protest, when just a couple of weeks ago a Black woman was shot in the neck by a car jacker in front of her 3 year old son, she drove about 100 feet veered into a ditch and ultimately bleed to death while listening to her child screaming...Guess what color the gunman was ??? I'll give you a hint, the gunman and Trent Lott were not the same color.

So my question is, where is the outrage ???
Where are the so called black leaders denouncing such an abomination ???
I'll tell you where they are, they are at NAACP headquarters planning what they are gonna do about Trent Lott.

Man, if the powers that be in the black community can't parlay this to their advantage then they are fools. Since Trent Lott apologized for his statements then to a certain degree that is an admission of guilt. Every HBCU president in MS should be calling his office to see if they can get another 20 million dollar facility. Politics are all about perception and manipulation of the press, work that to your advantage and see what you can get out of Lott. Because guess what, he aint resigning, he is gonna get re-elected, he aint going nowhere !!! So why not milk his azz.

Name one industry in the country that we own....
We don't even have B.E.T. anymore...

There are a few things that we have to come to grips with in this country.

1. We are 12% of this nations total polulation. We get fooled because we live in cities like Jackson, Birmingham, Atlanta, and New Orleans. As a result, we just don't have the infrastruture to support our own endeavors without having to rely on the majority. And only 25% of our population votes, so we have a whopping national voting power of 4%....that is Sad.

2. We are not going to receive Reparations !!! It just amazes me how we are constantly trying to get sympathy and compensation from a former Slave Master when we don't even support our own businesses in our community.

3. Our act as America's favorite minority is slowly getting tired. The hispanic population is gradually increasing, go to any Grocery store or ATM and you will see instructions written in English and Spanish. So if we continue to polarize ourselves by looking like complainers and beggars, we will always be cast as such. Just look at the native American community...They have Casinos and we had B.E.T.
I don't think that the Native American chief here in MS said "I don't want anything from you Racist white men!!"

Like Taylor-Made said, our outdated attitudes have kept us (blacks) back more than any chains, laws, or Jim Crow ever did.....

WE need to start playing political and economical ball and start making our dollars have some sense instead of protesting and raising hell because some white man said the N word in a clubhouse washroom when he was 30. And for those of you that want to still protest and raise hell in regards to that, pleas leave your car windows up while you drive to the protest because I guarantee you that you will hear some young black kid in traffic blasting music from thier car stereo that will feature that same word at least 30 times. Or you can just listen to your own car radio and hear it "beeped" out.
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Good Points MB. Even though I am no Republican, I do agree with your statements. I am very dismayed with our old head black leaders. I appreciate all that was done in the 50's 60s and 70's by these folks, but all they do now is whine and complain and try to find an issue to ride that aint that important. WE already know what most of white America thinks about us. Whether they say something stupid like Trent Lott did or like our (MS) former Gov Fordice had done aint important. What is important is like you said to use it too our advantage. The American Jew knows white America don't like them, but they aint worried about that ish. They are all about empowering their people financially and play the politics well.

I am very afraid that we as black folk are still stuck in this race issue stuff. We know that will never change. What we need to focus on is empowering our communities and learning how to play the game. Then master it and then maybe change some of the game. All these foreign folks come over here and figure it out and then make it happen. At this rate it will be a Hispanic President before an African American. We better wake up and figure this out. First thing we need to do is get rid of all these old azz black leaders and politicians and get more progressive and modern thinking brothers and sisters who will master this game and not always champion the same ole ish everyday. I listened to Rep John Conyers of Mich talk down about young Rep Harold Ford of Tn who is black when he considered running for minority leader. I was so dismayed at all the haterade coming out of him. He should have supported Ford instead of saying the brother aint ready. How the hell does he know that? Time for a change is all I can say.
 
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