Basebone1898
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Johnny Football has been hated on by whites and blacks for doing what he does and hanging out the way he hangs. The kid has the "it" factor and can make plays. He is going to be fun to watch.
Teddy Bridgewater is falling, and there's no real reason why
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Johnny Football has been hated on by whites and blacks for doing what he does and hanging out the way he hangs. The kid has the "it" factor and can make plays. He is going to be fun to watch.
Texas Southern Fan
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I can't believe you would make such a statement. Who did Steve McNair play against? Please watch the video below.
[video=youtube;593yI3rUbPE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=593yI3rUbPE[/video]
I disagree.
But as I put it together.... It all goes back to Florida. He beat them in the Sugar Bowl. LOL
Basebone1898
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What part of those guys showed better all around skills than Bridewater don't you understand? So now you believe that Teddy showed the same skills that McNair did in college?
What all around skills didn't Teddy show in college? Ok he didn't run much... But what else?
Basebone1898
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Please pull up some film on Teddy posture and mechanics on the deep ball. When you watch it, it will answer why he struggles with going deep.
Texas Southern Fan
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You are talking about what Teddy B. did with gym shorts on (LOL). What about what he did in the games agains Central Florida, Florida, and Miami? Don't believe everything you read about Teddy B. I believe what I see with my own eyes. If Vick and VY were not franchise QB's in the NFL how is a 5'11' less than 215lb QB going to be a franchise QB in the NFL? We are talking about the NFL. Will Manziel make plays in the NFL, yes he will make some. But, the running around mess in the NFL don't work. Sooner or later you have to prove you can throw the ball. If you don't belive me go ask Kapernich.
Run Johnny run, as long as he knows teams like 49ers, Rams, Cardinals, Seahawks, Saints, Ravens (2012), and Panthers are coming to get you. He may run around for 6 weeks, he may run around for 16 weeks, sooner or later someone is going to put an end that running mess.
[video=youtube;-g7gFsyej9c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g7gFsyej9c[/video]
[video=youtube;lAPPsy4e7qM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAPPsy4e7qM[/video]
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Texas Southern Fan
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Can you show them to me?
Texas Southern Fan
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McNair had a stronger arm and he was more mobile than Teddy B. I believe Teddy B. could read defensives better in college than Steve. Teddy B. can change the O-Line pertection at the line of scrimmage better than Steve could at Alcorn. Teddy is also better than Steve was in college at hitting hot routes. I don't believe Steve knew what a hot route was at Alcorn because the first defender in the SWAC was not going to touch Steve. Steve was worried about the the third and fourth defender not the first one.
Texas Southern Fan
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You asked and you shall receive. Check out the clip of Teddy B. Check out the plays he make at 1:45, 2:20, 4:45, and 7:10. This is the reason I feel Teddy B. Is the best QB in this draft, he can't be blitz. This is what set Teddy B. apart from the rest of the QBs in this draft, he can read defenses and control defenders with his eyes.
[video]http://draftbreakdown.com/video/teddy-bridgewater-vs-ucf-2013/[/video]
I've heard people say Teddy B. struggles with the deep pass because he reads shot to deep and a lot of times he throw deep late. Teddy B. can put the ball in the air for at least 55 yards.
Can you show me what Manziel does that you think will translate to the NLF. I don't want to hear tha IT factor BS. They said VY had the IT factor too and we all know how that turned out. I was trying to tell people VY wasn't a QB since his his high school days at Madison, but no one would listen to me. I know it's late so i'll check back tomorrow for your reply.
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number1
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So you are saying that he is 100% perfect with no mistakes being made, no flaws in his game? Like I said, he is a good QB and will have every opportunity to show his stuff in the NFL, he just isn't a Top 10 pick. Also ya'll are putting too much stock into his games against Florida and Miami. Miami was not that good last season. Florida was talented in that Sugar Bowl, but anyone could see how undisciplined, uncoached, and unprepared they were to play. That is why Muschamp is on the hot seat now.
That Florida game was more about how Louisville's defense forced turnovers and kept Florida's defense on the field. Once the teams came back from halftime, Florida made adjustments and essentially kept Bridgewater in check in the 2nd half. They had every chance in the world to get back in the game, but Louisville's defense just destroyed the offense. If Florida had a good coach or at least a good QB, they would have won that game easily.
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2kool
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My main point still holds true. The level of competition isn't always a factor is whether or not a player can play in the NFL. You're just arguing minutiae at this point LOL.
2kool
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If you knew so much about sports, you would understand that this "IT factor" talk is a bunch of loaded BS.
Nobody was hollering "it factor" for none of the last 4 or 5 QBs to win a Super Bowl. That's media hype talk.
But I'm supposed to be sports-dumb? Get outta here with that mess. You exposed yourself. I've forgotten more sports knowledge than you'll ever know LOL
Basebone1898
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Yeah. You don't have a clue. Your comments say all we need to know.
Carry on with your ignorance.
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Basebone1898
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Basebone1898
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2kool
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What is an "it" factor then? Explain it since you know everything.
PsychoJag
We Run The SWAC
Dude last I checked Bridgewater wasnt 6'5 240. :lol:
It's not even debatable who had the better college career or who put up the better stats against better competition. Bridgewater is slow, has small hands, is light in weight, and not tall. I wish the kid the best but let's not act like the kid is clearly the 2nd coming of McNair. I hope he is but I don't see it. :lol:
PV-PRIDE
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Russell Wilson dropped in the draft....and technically still the lowest paid quarterback on his team. He almost needed to win the superbowl this upcoming year to guarantee really big money. He is able to sign a new deal next year, but I am willing to bet his contract will be affected by how his does this upcoming year. (what have you done for me lately) They will have some selective amnesia about the two previous years.
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Texas Southern Fan
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Bridgewater is not 6'5" but he doesn't rely on his feet to make plays like Manziel does; therefore, I think Bridgewater may take less big hits than Manziel. What does having the better COLLEGE career have to do with playing in the NFL? I beg to differ that Manziel had the better career.
This doesn't translate to the NFL.
[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d8F-YTiq9C8[/video]
number1
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Manziel only did what his team called for him to do. He definitely can throw just as well as Bridgewater. Look at his passing stats this past season.
wahines
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And I am old enough to remember that black QB's were not drafted for playing the way that Johnny Football is be honored for today.
number1
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And certainly you should know that the league has changed so much since then.
Texas Southern Fan
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This won't translate either.
[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ho5GVX8Mecw[/video]
[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ho5GVX8Mecw[/video]
Texas Southern Fan
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Manziel's team needed him to win the SEC and he couldn't do that. The stats are similar, but Bridgewater's best receiver may be a third round pick, with no o-linemen or running backs being drafted. Can you say that about Manziel?